Nikishin Go Boom
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They’ve been saying that before he had a chance to make a move. I’ve followed the team not just for obvious reasons but I truly like them. There’s been a strong force amongst him from day one. It felt like they took so much heat from the expansion draft they were against him from the get go. RF has group of haters that rival Yzerman, to the point of it doesn’t even really make sense. I feel like most people aggressively voting against him are probably like this.
They made the playoffs once and went far, have three top ten picks and a coffer full of prospects. They have a solid team with a good future, even if it wasn’t RF you’d have to say they’re in a pretty good spot. They are going to have to fight to get good players not unlike the Canes as they’re not a big market either, which is why they’ll have to overpay a bit with free agents.
I listened to Boomer give the report card the other day and assumed he’d be down on them like every one else….nope. He thinks RF has them set up well and things are about as good as they can be.
If they fired him now it would be pretty similar to him being fired then, whoever takes over will have a lot of assets to work with from day one.
lol. I knew it was coming.
No buy out of KK. Big time shocked /s
The deadline was todayHe's still at that discounted buyout until 26, yeah? So no real need to pull the trigger now, especially given how iffy our forward core looks.
Good points.They’ve been saying that before he had a chance to make a move. I’ve followed the team not just for obvious reasons but I truly like them. There’s been a strong force amongst him from day one. It felt like they took so much heat from the expansion draft they were against him from the get go. RF has group of haters that rival Yzerman, to the point of it doesn’t even really make sense. I feel like most people aggressively voting against him are probably like this.
They made the playoffs once and went far, have three top ten picks and a coffer full of prospects. They have a solid team with a good future, even if it wasn’t RF you’d have to say they’re in a pretty good spot. They are going to have to fight to get good players not unlike the Canes as they’re not a big market either, which is why they’ll have to overpay a bit with free agents.
I listened to Boomer give the report card the other day and assumed he’d be down on them like every one else….nope. He thinks RF has them set up well and things are about as good as they can be.
If they fired him now it would be pretty similar to him being fired then, whoever takes over will have a lot of assets to work with from day one.
The exact wording is, "if the Player is under 26 years of age at the time the termination ise ffective, an amount equal to 1/3 of", so until 25 (including that age).He's still at that discounted buyout until 26, yeah? So no real need to pull the trigger now, especially given how iffy our forward core looks.
Bleedsignal activated.They’ve been saying that before he had a chance to make a move. I’ve followed the team not just for obvious reasons but I truly like them. There’s been a strong force amongst him from day one. It felt like they took so much heat from the expansion draft they were against him from the get go. RF has group of haters that rival Yzerman, to the point of it doesn’t even really make sense. I feel like most people aggressively voting against him are probably like this.
They made the playoffs once and went far, have three top ten picks and a coffer full of prospects. They have a solid team with a good future, even if it wasn’t RF you’d have to say they’re in a pretty good spot. They are going to have to fight to get good players not unlike the Canes as they’re not a big market either, which is why they’ll have to overpay a bit with free agents.
I listened to Boomer give the report card the other day and assumed he’d be down on them like every one else….nope. He thinks RF has them set up well and things are about as good as they can be.
If they fired him now it would be pretty similar to him being fired then, whoever takes over will have a lot of assets to work with from day one.
I thought he could still be bought out in summer 2026, but it depends on when the window opens / the cup finals end? His birthday is july 6, so usually the window would have been opened in time but who knows what the schedule will be with the olympics break that season.The exact wording is, "if the Player is under 26 years of age at the time the termination is
effective, an amount equal to 1/3 of", so until 25 (including that age). So the next summer is the last opportunity for a cheaper buyout.
Actually, you're correct. I had a brainfart and messed up my thinking with the June 30/July 1 watershed for the UFA eligibility, failing to realize that at least on the first buyout window in 2026 he *should* still be 25.I thought he could still be bought out in summer 2026, but it depends on when the window opens / the cup finals end? His birthday is july 6, so usually the window would have been opened in time but who knows what the schedule will be with the olympics break that season.
I'd prefer he just put it all together and make the conversation moot, though.
Ooooooo…….you personalized it!Bleedsignal activated.
EDIT: Oops, didn't see the prior post from @A Star is Burns doing the same thing. Only mine was green!
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I don’t think it’s a hotspot for these guys, which was more my point than just size. The weather isn’t perceived as great, it’s just not a huge destination to them. I think both teams have to do some convincing, I think we can attract free agents better than before but we may have to pay more to make it happen. They’re in the same boat imo. I think we just saw proof of it. For them it’s worth signing those two because they’re both upgrades and they want to improve. The deals will hurt on the back end but that’s the game all teams play with ufa contracts. We couldn’t get Jake to take our money till he’s 38 but we sure tried and we didn’t hesitate to pay Slavin till his 39. Maybe it’s right, maybe it’s wrong but it’s hard for us to throw stones at other teams for signing ufa’s after this summer.Good points.
FWIW: I think Seattle is a pretty big market though; much larger than Raleigh and has decent summers too (winter is meh though).
A bit of discussion re: fan experience and loyalty.
Looks like Bally is still the first choice for them.
I'm sure one of the big issues is considerations on working with various station owner groups instead of having one group that owns a butt load of stations over the coverage area like Vegas was able to work with. Makes it hard to guarantee coverage in say Wilmington, Charlotte, Asheville, or even the Triad, yet alone SC and GA.Makes sense since it is impossible to get a regional carriage deal for the Canes.
Yes and a few are network owned which makes it even more difficult (ie in Raleigh market ABC and CBS stations)I'm sure one of the big issues is considerations on working with various station owner groups instead of having one group that owns a butt load of stations over the coverage area like Vegas was able to work with. Makes it hard to guarantee coverage in say Wilmington, Charlotte, Asheville, or even the Triad, yet alone SC and GA.
I dont understand why the Canes are not selling their streaming right outside of the NHL/ESPN deal. Doesnt Vegas sell theirs independently?Yes and a few are network owned which makes it even more difficult (ie in Raleigh market ABC and CBS stations)
Network owned stations are never going to preempt their own shows for hockey.
I'm sure that's one of the considerations with Vegas not having to be stuck with Bally though and broadcasting independently. DSG isn't about to let teams sell their streaming rights.I dont understand why the Canes are not selling their streaming right outside of the NHL/ESPN deal. Doesnt Vegas sell theirs independently?
Not that impossible. WRAL, especially if you get the networks they are partnered with like WILM, gets you basically the entire state, parts of SC and up into Virginia. They would just have to build it all up from scratch, first, and that's probably more investment that Dundon is willing to undertake if he can have an absolutely shitty 3rd party do it for him.Makes sense since it is impossible to get a regional carriage deal for the Canes.
Nah, big markets such Greensboro, charlotte, Winston-Salem are missing.Not that impossible. WRAL, especially if you get the networks they are partnered with like WILM, gets you basically the entire state, parts of SC and up into Virginia. They would just have to build it all up from scratch, first, and that's probably more investment that Dundon is willing to undertake if he can have an absolutely shitty 3rd party do it for him.