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Lek said:
If there were half as many games remaining, definitely would have been pulling Philly, but at this point....keep three teams within 4
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As I said above, between Tampa, Philly and Detroit, I think it's fair to say Tampa is the most likely of the 3 to make the playoffs. The other 2 are more suspectable to crashing and burning in the final 20 games, so if and when Tampa plays the other 2 teams I will play the odds and pull for Tampa to win in regulation
 
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Big L said:
Hate on dubas? I think you’re confusing hate for abject amusement of his failures. I would say there’s quite a fondness of his work around here.
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They've got a looong rebuild ahead of them, don't they. NYI salaries to older players look light compared to theirs. (I guess that's what you pay for two cups in a row, and some hope since.) The Crosby situation is going to be something to watch. There's no doubt in my mind he has 3-4 more years in him, and I can't imagine they could be good ones with the Penguins. One wonders if he'll finish in MTL.
 
Tres Peleches said:
I think IDEALLY it would be the other way around… I think… but this is a close second, so we take
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Very hard to tell. With their talent I cannot tell for the life of me why Tampa is where they are. But I guess the goaltending has just been that bad, and their D is past Hedman is not great. Could definitely see Hedman putting the team on his back, and the addition of Dumba there imo is a very big help.

It's amazing how well the Flyers have done. I wish we had their wingers, and they wish they had our centers (barring Couturier who is a great checking C). But their goaltending is shaky to say the very least. Then the D injuries to Seeler and Drysdale, *and* the trade of Walker.

Then there's Detroit with Larkin's injury, which could sink them. They live and die with him, he's such a great player.

Right now the scoreboard seems to be reflecting the health of rosters. God willing, this continues. Because if Pelech is rounding back into form (he appears to be), NYI have roster advantages over every one of their competitors.
 
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PK Cronin said:
I hear you and don't mind it but it's still two more points the Isles have to get in order to get in.
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I prefer not having to put all eggs in one basket and hope one team is bad. Just needing one in three teams to fail is more comforting.
 
Interesting. Minnesota pulls their goalie with 1:30 left in OT for the 4 on 3 advantage. Scores, wins.
 
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Big L said:
Yeah me neither

Indeed. I’m not sure about this, but they said in postgame that if you lose in OT with your goalie pulled for the 4 on 3, you don’t get your OT loser point.
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Wait, really? Damn, then the coach has balls of steel on a real all or nothing decision. I guess that's why we have never really heard about it before. Wow. Rispek!
 
Big L said:
Yeah me neither

Indeed. I’m not sure about this, but they said in postgame that if you lose in OT with your goalie pulled for the 4 on 3, you don’t get your OT loser point.
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From the rule book for those interested:

84.2 Overtime – Regular-season – Extra Attacker - A team shall be allowed to pull its goalkeeper in favor of an additional skater in the overtime period. However, should that team lose the game during the time in which the goalkeeper has been removed, it would forfeit the automatic point gained in the tie at the end of regulation play, except if the goalkeeper has been removed at the call of a delayed penalty against the other team. Should the goalkeeper proceed to his bench for an extra attacker due to a delayed penalty call against the opposing team, and should the non-offending team shoot the puck directly into their own goal, the game shall be over and the team that was to be penalized declared the winner. Once the goalkeeper has been removed for an extra attacker in overtime during the regular-season, he must wait for the next stoppage of play before returning to his position. He cannot change “on the fly.” If he does, a bench minor penalty shall be assessed for having an ineligible player.
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Learn something new every day.
 
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saintunspecified said:
Very hard to tell. With their talent I cannot tell for the life of me why Tampa is where they are. But I guess the goaltending has just been that bad, and their D is past Hedman is not great. Could definitely see Hedman putting the team on his back, and the addition of Dumba there imo is a very big help.

It's amazing how well the Flyers have done. I wish we had their wingers, and they wish they had our centers (barring Couturier who is a great checking C). But their goaltending is shaky to say the very least. Then the D injuries to Seeler and Drysdale, *and* the trade of Walker.

Then there's Detroit with Larkin's injury, which could sink them. They live and die with him, he's such a great player.

Right now the scoreboard seems to be reflecting the health of rosters. God willing, this continues. Because if Pelech is rounding back into form (he appears to be), NYI have roster advantages over every one of their competitors.
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Thankfully all 3 of NYI PHI DET have pretty similar schedules too...I think the Isles statistically is the easiest but all 3 play the same teams 1 or two times. I hate Detroit closing with those 2 cupcake games vs MTL. At the same time, sometimes those teams play you harder. I fully expect if the Isles need that game on 4/17 that PIT is gonna go all out to try and win that game. You won't see Crosby benched, thats for sure
 
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Richie Daggers Crime said:
This is what I was saying about the hate for this guy. It just doesn't make sense.
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What, that he thinks the NHL is all “scoring scoring scoring” and tries to emulate that on the ice with his personnel decisions?

The guy has consistently built regular season dragons and playoff paper tigers. There’s a reason his teams don’t work in the playoffs

And now he even took a perennial playoff team in the Penguins and they’re going to miss the playoffs this year while simultaneously pissing off their franchise player

He’s better suited to building fantasy hockey teams than real ones
 
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Tres Peleches said:
What, that he thinks the NHL is all “scoring scoring scoring” and tries to emulate that on the ice with his personnel decisions?

The guy has consistently built regular season dragons and playoff paper tigers. There’s a reason his teams don’t work in the playoffs

And now he even took a perennial playoff team in the Penguins and they’re going to miss the playoffs this year while simultaneously pissing off their franchise player

He’s better suited to building fantasy hockey teams than real ones
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The damage was done to the Penguins before Dubas got there. He was left with a fading glory. I'm amazed Sidney Crosby hasn't tailed off the way Ovechkin has. I'm sure that day will come for Crosby the way it does for every superstar. But for the meantime, the Penguins going into the season were a mishmash of underwhelming vets who were brought in by Jim Rutherford and then Ron Hextall to help keep the Crosby team making the playoffs. It finally didn't work last year. Now the Penguins have reached a crossroads. Find a way to keep Crosby, Malkin, Letang in the playoffs while they age, or dismantle a championship core.
 
MJF said:
The damage was done to the Penguins before Dubas got there. He was left with a fading glory. I'm amazed Sidney Crosby hasn't tailed off the way Ovechkin has. I'm sure that day will come for Crosby the way it does for every superstar. But for the meantime, the Penguins going into the season were a mishmash of underwhelming vets who were brought in by Jim Rutherford and then Ron Hextall to help keep the Crosby team making the playoffs. It finally didn't work last year. Now the Penguins have reached a crossroads. Find a way to keep Crosby, Malkin, Letang in the playoffs while they age, or dismantle a championship core.
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Totally understand fans who hate Sid especially how he’s played against us (though not nearly as much as of late) but he plays such a smart game where Ovi really played much more physically. Easier to prolong a career when you play more Sids style. Though I absolutely did not expect Ovi to fall off the cliff so fast too, didn’t think Gretzky would keep the goals record
 
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Tres Peleches said:
What, that he thinks the NHL is all “scoring scoring scoring” and tries to emulate that on the ice with his personnel decisions?

The guy has consistently built regular season dragons and playoff paper tigers. There’s a reason his teams don’t work in the playoffs

And now he even took a perennial playoff team in the Penguins and they’re going to miss the playoffs this year while simultaneously pissing off their franchise player

He’s better suited to building fantasy hockey teams than real ones
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You're imbuing his intentions with your own bias.
 
MJF said:
The damage was done to the Penguins before Dubas got there. He was left with a fading glory. I'm amazed Sidney Crosby hasn't tailed off the way Ovechkin has. I'm sure that day will come for Crosby the way it does for every superstar. But for the meantime, the Penguins going into the season were a mishmash of underwhelming vets who were brought in by Jim Rutherford and then Ron Hextall to help keep the Crosby team making the playoffs. It finally didn't work last year. Now the Penguins have reached a crossroads. Find a way to keep Crosby, Malkin, Letang in the playoffs while they age, or dismantle a championship core.
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Yes, but his big move to try to fix the Penguins and/or put his stamp on the team was to go out and get… an offensive defenseman, which they really didn’t need

Richie Daggers Crime said:
You're imbuing his intentions with your own bias.
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And also his body of work, which speaks for itself
 
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