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So Kane and Toews are due for extensions after '14-'15. Negotiations have begun and their initial ask was for $12m per year. Each.
I get that the cap will rise and that they won't actually get that much, but let's say they end up getting $9m and the cap in '15-'16 is $75m. That gives Chicago $57m to spend on everyone else, of which $42m is already committed to Crawford, six forwards, and three defensemen. To lock up a capable fourth defenseman to play with Hjalmarsson, be it Oduya or someone else, will cost at least $4m. Saad is also going to be an RFA and should command a nice raise; let's conservatively say $3m, but it'll be more if he pots more than 20 goals this season. All told, that's no less than $49m.
That leaves no more than $8m to spend on three bottom-six forwards, a third pair, a few depth guys on two-ways, and a backup goalie. Theoretically, they can fill those spots with the money, but unless they've got more promising young guys who are also dirt cheap, the bottom of that roster is going to be very weak. They really tied Bowman's hands here.
I get that the cap will rise and that they won't actually get that much, but let's say they end up getting $9m and the cap in '15-'16 is $75m. That gives Chicago $57m to spend on everyone else, of which $42m is already committed to Crawford, six forwards, and three defensemen. To lock up a capable fourth defenseman to play with Hjalmarsson, be it Oduya or someone else, will cost at least $4m. Saad is also going to be an RFA and should command a nice raise; let's conservatively say $3m, but it'll be more if he pots more than 20 goals this season. All told, that's no less than $49m.
That leaves no more than $8m to spend on three bottom-six forwards, a third pair, a few depth guys on two-ways, and a backup goalie. Theoretically, they can fill those spots with the money, but unless they've got more promising young guys who are also dirt cheap, the bottom of that roster is going to be very weak. They really tied Bowman's hands here.
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Given that today is draft day and we know Ronnie allegedly spoke w/Jeff Daniels about Charlotte, do we have any updates on that situation? I've got to think with the alacrity that RF made the coaching switch here in Raleigh, something has to move in Checker-land.
Thoughts? Has anybody heard anything?
Thoughts? Has anybody heard anything?
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It sure would be nice to have a beat writer to remember to ask those sorts of questions whenever he does get time with Francis.
I have no idea what's going on there. I have to assume no changes at this point.
I have no idea what's going on there. I have to assume no changes at this point.
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Isles have been kicking tires on a number of marquee FA's. Also looking for more goaltending depth. Have shown interest in Justin Peters
Isles have been kicking tires on a number of marquee FA's. Also looking for more goaltending depth. Have shown interest in Justin Peters
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From the Main Board. Eric Staal to Nashville rumor.
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1697309
Really not sure how credible this is as it's just some guy saying he heard it on the radio.
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1697309
Really not sure how credible this is as it's just some guy saying he heard it on the radio.
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Nashville, Phoenix, and St. Louis have been my biggest potential landing spots for estaal. Outside chance of Calgary.
Screw it. In order:
St. Louis I think they want kesler or spezza first
Nashville lavi, they want a style change, want a top guy
Phoenix New owner might be ready for a big player
Calgary If they want their success a little faster
Edm If they cave in and start giving up the kids
Van One more shot with the sedins while being years younger
Screw it. In order:
St. Louis I think they want kesler or spezza first
Nashville lavi, they want a style change, want a top guy
Phoenix New owner might be ready for a big player
Calgary If they want their success a little faster
Edm If they cave in and start giving up the kids
Van One more shot with the sedins while being years younger
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That's unloading a HUGE contract....if it were true. Which it probably isn't.
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Some guy heard someone who he didn't catch the name of on the radio. Something smells to me. Although if (and it's a big if) this is true, maybe that's why the Lecavalier/Ward talks are ongoing.
Vinny is no way ideal, but the Canes go from strong down the middle..to Jordan down the middle if Eric is traded.
Vinny is no way ideal, but the Canes go from strong down the middle..to Jordan down the middle if Eric is traded.
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I'm surprised Seth Jones wasn't the first name mentioned.
I'd be shocked* if Staal was moved this off-season.
*Note: I am 0-2 saying that on this board.
I'd be shocked* if Staal was moved this off-season.
*Note: I am 0-2 saying that on this board.
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Nashville has the assets to do if if they wanted to (again, I'm not buying it)
Jones, Josi, 11th pick, Wilson, Smith, Forsberg etc.. (no, I'm not saying all those guys).
Jones, Josi, 11th pick, Wilson, Smith, Forsberg etc.. (no, I'm not saying all those guys).
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I don't think francis is ready to trade the big guy yet either. Though it's fun to speculate. I don't think there's any chance of getting jones. Forsberg, Wilson, jarnkrok, Ellis. Somewhere in there.
Josi too. Sure. Id like him but they'd be loathe to do it.
Josi too. Sure. Id like him but they'd be loathe to do it.
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I pressed the guy in the main board thread (before it got locked) about who was that "they" that said it and he responded that he didn't catch their names. Sounds like idle speculation from a couple of radio hosts to me. I guess we'll see, but I'm not buying it and am with WTF that I don't see Eric moving this year.
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Meh, we were both right about yesterday. It was a conservatively played game (as you said it'd be), but Germany didn't need to play aggressive in order to score on us (which I said would be the case). You're 0-1-1 saying that on these boards.
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I have zero idea about worth, but looking at deals like the Nash and Carter deals....but for fun, what about Forsberg or Wilson and Josi?
Tlusty - Staal - Semin
Skinner-Lindholm-Forsberg
Gerbe - Lecavalier/Richards - Richie
Boychuk - Nash - Dwyer
Terry
Josi - Faulk (Josi is LD, correct?)
Hainsey-Sekera
Liles-Murphy-Bellemore
Khudobin
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I'm fine with that. I like Wilson though at this point you have to say forsberg has the higher upside, Wilson just doesn't seem like he's gonna put the offense together though he could end up being a top notch 2/3 center. Josi is a no brainer if he maintains his level. Jarnkrok still is getting a lot of ink about his upside, haven't seen it yet though I've barely watched him. I don't know that we could expect better value anywhere that would be better than Josi and forsberg/jarnkrok/Wilson, especially if there's a pick too.
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Lol! Really you all think that an hypothetical EStall trade would land us only #11 wilson and ekholm??? Jesus....
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Meh, we were both right about yesterday. It was a conservatively played game (as you said it'd be), but Germany didn't need to play aggressive in order to score on us (which I said would be the case). You're 0-1-1 saying that on these boards.
Fair enough, I'll take it!
This does sound like speculation from an Adam Gold type with little inside info. Everything Francis and Peters have been saying point to Staal staying this year. There seem to be too many big names on the move anyway. And the offers aren't great. Think I saw somewhere that no one wants to offer a first for Spezza.
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