GDT: NEW YORK RANGERS WIN NHL DRAFT LOTTERY

[Rob Brown]

He can't do any on ice stuff with us until we draft him. If a few players rent the ice and practice together that's a different thing.

Yeah I figured. I believe the front office can still meet with him though, correct?

 

[NYSPORTS]

That Carolina pick might come into play in a package to move up for this Center prospect the Rangers need. Go Bruins!!!!

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Yeah I figured. I believe the front office can still meet with him though, correct?

Yup they are allowed to interview him

 

[Irishguy42]

Congrats guys!

Random question that I don't know if any of you will know the answer to, but figured you may have discussed it. Can the Rangers bring Laf into NYC early before the draft to have him skate with players, coaching staff, even if it's unofficially? Or is that considered tampering in some capacity?

Probably won't happen until he's officially drafted.

Who do you think we are....Arizona?

Yeah I figured. I believe the front office can still meet with him though, correct?

I think the above still applies unless it's at sanctioned NHL meetings.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

That Carolina pick might come into play in a package to move up for this Center prospect the Rangers need. Go Bruins!!!!

Go bruins indeed.

 

[Rob Brown]

Probably won't happen until he's officially drafted.

Who do you think we are....Arizona?


I think the above still applies unless it's at sanctioned NHL meetings.

Haha wasn't sure if they could skate with him even unofficially. Just a weird year with the draft being so late. I'm sure he wants to get going ASAP.

Yup they are allowed to interview him

Makes sense!

 

[TheTimTamSlammerMan]

Good news guys! I wasn’t dreaming!!

 

[The New Russian Five]

Congrats guys!

Random question that I don't know if any of you will know the answer to, but figured you may have discussed it. Can the Rangers bring Laf into NYC early before the draft to have him skate with players, coaching staff, even if it's unofficially? Or is that considered tampering in some capacity?

They interviewed him after the lottery. The Q is scheduled to start on time so he may go back until the NHL season starts.

 

[The New Russian Five]

Does this seem like a remotely possible trade?
Car 1st + ADA + Strome + Kravtsov/Gauthier

For
LA's 2OA OR Ott's 3OA

Considering our system depth I would have no problem making one of those trades and getting Stutzle/Byfield to immdiately play on the 2nd line instead of Strome. Rangers also have to plan for a world without Zibanejad in a couple years. He's likely a cap casualty. Having one of those studs waiting in the wings would be the perfect transition.

 

[NYSPORTS]

Maybe Lias Andersson decides he DOES want to be part of this up-and-coming NY Rangers franchise... Panarin, Kakko, Kravtsov, Shestyorkin, Chytil, Fox, K. Miller, Barron, a few others I'm forgetting at this moment and all the gems waiting and developing in Europe (Lundkvist, Pajuniemi and co.) ... ok, and Howden too .

Rangers need a Center so he would likely get a shot yet he’s becoming an after thought.

 

[FultonReed]

missed the full extent of the excitement because i was at work, but when i got several texts telling me what happened, i started shaking.

what the f***, you guys, this really happened! i still have no idea how to articulate it properly.

 

[kovazub94]

Ziba/ Chytil/ Strome
Panarin/ LAF/ Kreider
Kakko/ Buch/ Krava

I will say the organization has to take it very slow and not hurry to make a “forced” move. Yeah we have current weakness(es) particularly at center depth and LD with organizational depth with wings and RD but I’d rather let things workout naturally. With AL joining Panarin and Kreider the Rangers has a SERIOUS LW depth. With Kakko, Buch, Gauthier and Kravtsov LW is not too shabby either. Chytil is still 20 has top quality written all over him and no one can predict how big of jump he will take next season when he will only be 21!!! With his chemistry with Panarin and versatility to play all forward positions Strome would be perfect as a stopgap C to be kept for his final RFA contract and could switch between 2C/3C depending on Chytil’s progress. Depending on how season goes he could be kept for a playoff run or traded away.

The other point is that quality vets could view NYR as their last chance at the cup and sign for cheap, or similarly, those that would accept a short cheap deal to up their market value.

Good things...

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Does this seem like a remotely possible trade?
Car 1st + ADA + Strome + Kravtsov/Gauthier

For
LA's 2OA OR Ott's 3OA

Considering our system depth I would have no problem making one of those trades and getting Stutzle/Byfield to immdiately play on the 2nd line instead of Strome. Rangers also have to plan for a world without Zibanejad in a couple years. He's likely a cap casualty. Having one of those studs waiting in the wings would be the perfect transition.

Both those teams want young players, I don't see either trading those picks

 

[Kovalev27]

They rated him pretty low on discipline. Is this something to be concerned about?

keep in mind this video is over a year old. This kid has come a long way in a year. The skating alone is a huge difference.

 

[Kovalev27]

I don't think they will put two guys that never played an NHL game in a position they aren't familiar with, you want those guys to come in and be comfortable. Absurd indeed.

did I say start them in their first nhl games at center or did I say I’d like them to get looks there at some point to see what they can do?

you just proposed moving a 27 year old wing that isn’t a playmaker and struggles defensively to center because he’s big. Absurd indeed

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

keep in mind this video is over a year old. This kid has come a long way in a year. The skating alone is a huge difference.

Well he served a suspension this year for a hit to the head so the discipline stuff is kind of valid. But if you piss him off, he'll bite back. I find that a positive quality, not a detriment.

I still can't believe we won the lottery and landed a guy who might be Pat Kane in a power forward's body.

 

[Kovalev27]

Well he served a suspension this year for a hit to the head so the discipline stuff is kind of valid. But if you piss him off, he'll bite back. I find that a positive quality, not a detriment.

I still can't believe we won the lottery and landed a guy who might be Pat Kane in a power forward's body.

I love it we need some bad guys like messier we’ve been led by turn the other cheek Top guys for a long time.

 

[will1066]

missed the full extent of the excitement because i was at work, but when i got several texts telling me what happened, i started shaking.

what the f***, you guys, this really happened! i still have no idea how to articulate it properly.

There are no words. For a franchise like ours, having the #2 pick be an appetizer of the #1 pick the following year is like... being struck by a lightning bolt WHILE BEING struck by the first lightning bolt.

No wait. It's like flipping a coin three times and seeing it land on its head three times!

 

[haveandare]

That said--consider this--

WORST CASE:
(3) Stutzle
(5) Raymond/Rossi/Drysdale

BEST CASE:
(3) Byfield
(5) Raymond/Rossi/Drysdale

Let's be honest... say Lafreniere pans out exactly as expected and is a prime 85-100 point scoring winger (think Huberdeau or Pastrnak with less goals)... that would be amazing. But is that really better than a 75-85 offensive dynamo (Stutzle) PLUS another 70-80 wizard (Raymond) OR a 65-70 point, 35 goal sniper (Rossi) OR 50-60 point offensive D (Drysdale)?

AND that's worst case. Say--for whatever reason--Byfield drops to #3...

The Rangers are gifted a future Aleksander Barkov (Byfield) and whichever other high-end toy they choose. My goodness. Let's just say the Rangers were to leave the draft floor with the best cornerstone C and sniper in the draft. Their core would be...

Panarin
Zibanejad
Byfield
Kakko
Rossi
Kravtsov
Chytil
Buchnevich
Kreider

DeAngelo
Fox
Trouba
Miller
Lundkvist
Jones

Shesterkin
Georgiev

That would be absolutely insane. Could you imagine rolling out...

Zibanejad
Byfield
Chytil

... up the middle. Within 2 years that center ice would rival any other in the East and that includes PIT, PHI, TOR.

Then on the wings you roll out...

Panarin
Kakko
Kreider
Rossi
Kravtsov
Buchnevich

You're talking a likely 80-90 point winger in Panarin plus two future 35-goal scorers in Kakko and Rossi. Talk about a well-rounded machine. If the best case scenario were to happen... the Rangers would address two key areas of need (a big, franchise centerman and a high-end, pure, sharpshooter). One thing is for sure--if the Rangers are passing on THAT opportunity--Lafreniere better end up Bobby Hull lol.

The thing is, Laf is way way more likely to hit his ceiling than the other guys no matter how much people like them for whatever reasons.

3 and 5 can easily turn into two productive but not special players whereas the chance of that with Laf is significantly lower and the ceiling is even higher. Take Laf 10/10 times imo.

 

[Kovalev27]

Buchnevich and Strome will not be here next season book it.

but also be prepared for Brett Howden 3C.

 

[will1066]

Laf's hands are sick. His vision and playmaking are much talked about, but for me, his shot is just lethally accurate. He can put it anywhere he wants.

 

[will1066]

The thing is, Laf is way way more likely to hit his ceiling than the other guys no matter how much people like them for whatever reasons.

3 and 5 can easily turn into two productive but not special players whereas the chance of that with Laf is significantly lower and the ceiling is even higher. Take Laf 10/10 times imo.

It's hard not to love Byfield being 6 foot 4, 220 already at his age, but yeah, Laf all the way.

 

[True Blue]

Does this seem like a remotely possible trade?
Car 1st + ADA + Strome + Kravtsov/Gauthier

For
LA's 2OA OR Ott's 3OA

Considering our system depth I would have no problem making one of those trades and getting Stutzle/Byfield to immdiately play on the 2nd line instead of Strome. Rangers also have to plan for a world without Zibanejad in a couple years. He's likely a cap casualty. Having one of those studs waiting in the wings would be the perfect transition.

First of all, there is absolutely no chance that Gorton trades a DeAngelo or a Strome for simply prospects. That part of the rebuild is over.

Second of all, there is absolutely no way that anyone would make that deal for even the second overall.

 

[Kovalev27]

Byfield is a tough one because he’s so young. He’s basically a year younger than Lafreniere but what Lafreniere did this past season was so ridiculous it’s almost impossible to touch. He’s pulled away from everyone else and that’s in a super deep draft.

 

[True Blue]

Both those teams want young players, I don't see either trading those picks

Nor do I see Gorton trading production for simply futures. The team is going to be fighting to make the playoffs next year. They are not going to simply give assets away.