Yea it’s a bit concerning for his size, but all else considered, it’s pretty average. He’s elusive, agile, and has really good edge work, but he needs to work on his speed.
Yea there’s no reason to keep him. We are already loaded when it comes to smallish, puck-moving, right handed, offensive defensemen. The difference is, our other options are younger and cheaper than him, and could fill his role just as well. I think we can obviously all agree that we don’t want him taking up a younger defenseman’s spot.
Thank you. Just what I wanted to say. Also, I don’t think his value is as high as it could potentially be. That, and he’s my favorite player, so it would take a lot for me to be happy with trading him.
I would rather keep Shattenkirk over Smith in theory, but this is an exceptional case. We have 4 very similar players (Shattenkirk, Pionk, DeAngelo, Fox), and since we’re rebuilding, the veteran should be the odd man out. Staal can stay and mentor unless he’s blocking someone like Lindgren/Rykov/K’Andre Miller if/when they’re ready. Smith can be a 12/13/14 forward. Also, Shattenkirk kind of sucked this year. Maybe he’ll be better next year, but I’m tired of him.
| SEASON | CLAUSE | CAP HIT
| AAV
| P. BONUSES
| S. BONUSES
| BASE SALARY
| TOTAL SALARY
| MINORS SALARY
|
| 2019-20 | $925,000 | $1,775,000 | $850,000 | $92,500 | $832,500 | $925,000 | $70,000 | |
| 2020-21 | $925,000 | $1,775,000 | $850,000 | $92,500 | $832,500 | $925,000 | $70,000 | |
| 2021-22 | $925,000 | $1,775,000 | $850,000 | $92,500 | $832,500 | $925,000 | $70,000 | |
| TOTAL | $2,775,000 | $5,325,000 | $2,550,000 | $277,500 | $2,497,500 | $2,775,000 | $210,000 |
Those $850,000 bonuses, he can get $212,500 for each of these categories, to a max of $850,000.
I'm not voting him for the All-Star Game to preserve the Rangers' cap space.
Shattenkirk needs to leave unless Fox needs AHL time or we trade Pionk. And if we can find a trade partner for Smith without giving up more than a 3rd, a prospect like Gettinger, or a player like Namestnikov, then I’m down. If not, I don’t think it would be a good idea to buy him out. Not worth it if he can just play forward. We don’t need the cap space this year, but we will when Smith’s contract expires.
If they see Pionk as a core piece and don’t see DeAngelo as one, that tells you all you need to know about our management. They’ve done very well recently with drafting and trades, but if this leads to a DeAngelo trade, I cannot overstate how much of a monumental error that will be. We shouldn’t jump to conclusions just yet, but you’re right. It’s concerning. It just feels like next season, Pionk will be given a pass for most things (like he’s been getting this season), while DeAngelo will be on thin ice. This is not even a knock against Pionk. If they view him as a 3rd pairing defenseman, I can forgive that. But a core piece? Seriously? Why? Because of that one goal against Montreal? Lol
Yes, this is how I’m seeing it as well. That’s why I’m not a huge fan of the Yandle comparison. The Ellis comparison isn’t perfect either, but I like it.
