Confirmed with Link: New York Rangers Sign Adam Fox to Entry Level Deal

[Levitate]

Do that pass right in the middle in NHL you're dead.

I hate takes like this...it's the same kind of pass you see good NHL D's try to make. Sometimes it works, sometimes it's deflected, rarely it's intercepted and taken the other way. He created the seam with his puck control and immediately made the pass when he looked up and saw it was there and no defender was in position to jump the passing lane.

Pretending those plays don't happen in the NHL because everyone is just so good is ridiculous

e: I mean he literally drew two players to him so he knew there was some open ice because someone was out of position, the only man left to make a play on it was up on the blueline and could at best deflect the pass, it was a smart and great play. Maybe if he doesn't draw two players and looks up and see a guy sitting in the high slot waiting to jump the pass, he doesn't try to make it. Who knows. It was 100% the right and great play to make there with zero chance of it going badly for him

You literally said this same thing after a Kaako post of him on a breakaway in practice...

wasn't that Kaako doing something silly like bouncing his stick off the ice? not really something a player would pull out in a game but something goofy to play around with with some spare practice time

 

[nyr2k2]

You literally said this same thing after a Kaako post of him on a breakaway in practice...

Wrong. You posted a video of Kakko screwing around in practice and said "More fuel to the fire" or something. I said I have played beer league with guys that can do that kind of stuff, that I could do cool things, too, despite being an objectively bad player, and that pretty much anyone who has spent any significant amount of time playing hockey could do some neat things with the puck in practice.

None of those things apply to what Fox did. I was talking about why practice-time fun doesn't move the needle for me. Watching guys make legitimately nice passing plays in what appears to be a game, is something else entirely.

 

[Captain Monglobster]

Wrong. You posted a video of Kakko screwing around in practice and said "More fuel to the fire" or something. I said I have played beer league with guys that can do that kind of stuff, that I could do cool things, too, despite being an objectively bad player, and that pretty much anyone who has spent any significant amount of time playing hockey could do some neat things with the puck in practice.

None of those things apply to what Fox did. I was talking about why practice-time fun doesn't move the needle for me. Watching guys make legitimately nice passing plays in what appears to be a game, is something else entirely.

So basically youre saying youre as good as Kakko, now ive seen it all.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Wrong. You posted a video of Kakko screwing around in practice and said "More fuel to the fire" or something. I said I have played beer league with guys that can do that kind of stuff, that I could do cool things, too, despite being an objectively bad player, and that pretty much anyone who has spent any significant amount of time playing hockey could do some neat things with the puck in practice.

None of those things apply to what Fox did. I was talking about why practice-time fun doesn't move the needle for me. Watching guys make legitimately nice passing plays in what appears to be a game, is something else entirely.

This thread: "Everytime something cool happens outside of the NHL..."
That thread: "I can do cool things too" (about something that happened outside of the NHL)

 

[nyr2k2]

This thread: "Everytime something cool happens outside of the NHL..."

That thread: "I can do cool things too" (about something that happened outside of the NHL)

This thread: a video of a guy doing something in a game...
That thread: a guy screwing around at practice...

Don't pretend these things are the same. As I clearly stated, and as anyone who wasn't all pissy that I didn't fawn over their Kakko video would understand, I'm talking about stuff you see guys do in games--where a guy stickhandles through the entire team and people are like, no way that could happen! Then someone goes on a ridiculous end to end rush the next week in the NHL, or someone posts an old video of Nash. That's what I'm talking about.

The practice stuff, I don't care about. I don't know why you're still salty about that when it has nothing to do with this or what I said above.

 

[Nordiques1979]

I hate takes like this...it's the same kind of pass you see good NHL D's try to make. Sometimes it works, sometimes it's deflected, rarely it's intercepted and taken the other way. He created the seam with his puck control and immediately made the pass when he looked up and saw it was there and no defender was in position to jump the passing lane.

Pretending those plays don't happen in the NHL because everyone is just so good is ridiculous

e: I mean he literally drew two players to him so he knew there was some open ice because someone was out of position, the only man left to make a play on it was up on the blueline and could at best deflect the pass, it was a smart and great play. Maybe if he doesn't draw two players and looks up and see a guy sitting in the high slot waiting to jump the pass, he doesn't try to make it. Who knows. It was 100% the right and great play to make there with zero chance of it going badly for him



wasn't that Kaako doing something silly like bouncing his stick off the ice? not really something a player would pull out in a game but something goofy to play around with with some spare practice time

You barely see play like this in NHL because first of all they're not juniors like in the video, defense covering is way better than this kid job on Fox.
Most of the time lateral passes so close to the dman in PP won't happens in NHL, maybe because players play safer, maybe because they just don't have the room to do so.
In NCAA and CHL you get to see more plays like this because 20 yo players are more confident against younger guys, and obviously not the same level.

 

[nyr2k2]

You barely see play like this in NHL because first of all they're not juniors like in the video, defense covering is way better than this kid job on Fox.
Most of the time lateral passes so close to the dman in PP won't happens in NHL, maybe because players play safer, maybe because they just don't have the room to do so.
In NCAA and CHL you get to see more plays like this because 20 yo players are more confident against younger guys, and obviously not the same level.

I can remember about a dozen times this season where we somehow ended up with four guys in one corner and the other guy just floating around somewhere. Granted, the Rangers suck, but horribly broken coverages happen all the time in the NHL, and the star players regularly exploit them to make plays where you then say, "How did so-and-so know to make that pass?" or "How would he have even though to try that?"

Yes, it all happens with less frequency and that is understood. the NCAA players Fox played against, a vast majority are not of any kind of professional quality, some may be ECHL quality, a couple may be AHL quality, and maybe one or two in each game will eventually become NHL quality. The difference in skill is huge. But again, the point isn't whether or not this is something that can be tried or could happen, the point is that Fox showed great awareness, sense, vision, and passing. If those skills can translate to the NHL then he'll be able to similarly break down defenses and capitalize on the opposition's mistakes.

 

[nyr2k2]

I don't even think there was that much risk associated with the pass. Once he circled back he saw #17 in white about to step out to the blue line to cover #2 in red and not in any kind of position to break up the pass. So he zipped it through there and the guy almost fell down trying to turn to reach back and intercept or break it up. Whoever it was earlier that said, "Worst case was a puck into the stands" is almost certainly right.

 

[bobbop]

From Newsday

Jericho's Fox hopes to have a shot with Rangers

 

[Leetch3]

From Newsday

Jericho's Fox hopes to have a shot with Rangers

I laughed at his dad saying he can't live at home lol

 

[Rempe73]

I was thinking the same thing, but I'm still insanely psyched about him. He's our best offensive D prospect in god knows how long

Well, since Tony DeAngelo. But I know what you mean. Besides Fox, DeAngelo, and maybe K’Andre, it’s been a while since we’ve had a prospect like that.

 

[cwede]

From Newsday
Jericho's Fox hopes to have a shot with Rangers

Colin Stephenson was NYR beat writer for a while, maybe even more than once ...

 

[tradenashnow]

Hope DeAngelo continues to mature. I have no idea what Gorton will do with the defense. He needs to trade guys. Buy guys out. Clean house to some degree. It's youth time on the defenseman core. Great thing is with so many talented, defenseman prospects, Gorton has a real shot at adding a talented, established, young forward on a team starving for young d-men.

 

[True Blue]

Hope DeAngelo continues to mature. I have no idea what Gorton will do with the defense. He needs to trade guys. Buy guys out. Clean house to some degree. It's youth time on the defenseman core.

Going to presume you are talking about Staal, Smith & Shattenkirk. You can rant and rave and scream "Trade them", but they are borderline untradeable. And if you scream "Buy them out", then there is a lack of knowledge of how the cap works or are unaware of what dead cap space is.

 

[Thirty One]

Love to lock in dead cap space for the next four seasons to give opportunities and responsibilities to kids who aren't ready for them.

 

[McRanger]

Love to lock in dead cap space for the next four seasons to give opportunities and responsibilities to kids who aren't ready for them.

I would say its more "possibility not ready for them" than "aren't ready for them", but yeah either way its a bad idea right now.

 

[Thirty One]

I would say its more "possibility not ready for them" than "aren't ready for them", but yeah either way its a bad idea right now.

I was reacting to a post (which apparently was in another thread, my bad) where he said he'd rather go with six young defensemen, which would almost certainly mean some were not ready for it.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Someone needs to tell Pidto that Kravtsov's first name isn't Victor

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Someone needs to tell Pidto that Kravtsov's first name isn't Victor

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Someone needs to tell Pidto that Kravtsov's first name isn't Victor

Already giving interviews like an NHLer. Says nothing, all in a monotone, and says "you know" every other word. And people complain about Kakko's video.

 

[Pizza]

Shattenkirk is not much of a leader.

Staal is not much of a leader even though he was here forever, time to cut the cord. I don't want him to teach young players that you can just be mediocre and not perform great and still get big contracts in NHL. We can take the cap hit of his buyout. I mean in theory we can use him as a 8th dman, but I think the coach would end up playing him most of the season.

Tragic. Simply tragic, lol.

 

[Crease]

Already giving interviews like an NHLer. Says nothing, all in a monotone, and says "you know" every other word. And people complain about Kakko's video.

I wish every NHLer gave interviews like Boyle impersonating Anisimov.

 

[The S5]

Do that pass right in the middle in NHL you're dead.

I watched this kid at Canes camp last year and he pulled off a ton of these type of passes. Over and over, he drew players in and made the right pass, many times the pass that nobody else could see until it happened. He was, without question, the most impressive guy out there.
It really doesn't matter if it was against other rookies, or in college. If it were such an easy skill, everyone would do it.

 

[Rangers ftw]

I wish every NHLer gave interviews like Boyle impersonating Anisimov.

One of my favorite Rangers, such a warrior and nice guy.

 

[ElLeetch]

This may have been asked before, but if Fox was in this draft (2019), where do you think he would have been taken?