If the Rangers trade Shesterkin they might as well start over. Trade everyone over 30 for the best offer and rebuild . If they don’t trade him it’s not worth it to fire sale everything .
Proposal: New York Rangers Fire Sale
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CanadienShark
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track record shows usually I have more hits than misses, so beware of what you ask for, if Rs mgmt ever wakes up and listens to me, instead of continuing to look bad for not doing so, we will all see
Kreider was stupidly mentioned by apparently brain dead nyrgm who was trying to send team a message while goosing the market a bit
Kreider not available unless too much to turn down
He is exception, b'c his training keeps him in peak physical condition
will be good next 2-3 yrs before 1-2 yrs tailing off/phasing out
if he gives Rs team friendly deal 1 yr at a time, he should be kept
Rempe is raw and dynamic and provides energy
He has upside and should be playing over Vesey
No one including him is untouchable
Rempe is category of anticipated return = not worth moving
Also for most of games he has played, Rs win
no reason to not keep
Perratrooper
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Kakko stays (I think he walks in FA)
KAM top $ or I gamble on his potential (He's awful and continues to be. Top dollar for what?)
Fox not listed, moved to induce Zib to VAN (You're trading Fox? While i will agree he's not as special as he's been made out to be, he's probably the smartest player in the league. But intimidating? No. Tough to play against? No. He's the worst skater in the league. But you guys will hang onto him way too far into that contract)
Vesey is blocking Rempe, stupidly; he goes (Rempes time in the league is almost up. He's big, that's it. He "likes" to fight. He's not that good at it. He's a dangerous player, not dynamic. Hits players to hurt not to separate and make a play. Sure Vesey is not much but he's got more value on the ice. Rempe in the gift shop).
You need to redo the D, only a few pieces that can provide a path to win a cup. And while that wint happen paying Igor $12M to play into his later 30s while probably going into a retool at a min (likely a rebuild) is gonna be awful. As I said, I'm all for it!
Tarasenko 50 % retention for kakko
Or
Veleno +3rd
Doubt Miller gets dealt but heard his name was out there
gustafsson(seemed much better there than det) +max plante + rasmussen 750k retention or bring back former nyr copp at 2 mill retention + 2nd rounder 2026
Or
Veleno +3rd
Doubt Miller gets dealt but heard his name was out there
gustafsson(seemed much better there than det) +max plante + rasmussen 750k retention or bring back former nyr copp at 2 mill retention + 2nd rounder 2026
i already wanted to propose that the rangers should sell dolan to the highest bidder
What mgmt will actually do is unclear
what most now want, generally, is what I have said for yrs
hard cap/no compliance buy outs means must recycle/repurpose vets into youth on a regular basis, exceptions notwithstanding
To answer yr ?, as that applies here, imo what should be done:
bundle Fox w/Zib at half + next 2 2nds [2027, 2028?]
for JTM + Raty + Juulsen + Forbort + VAM 2025 + 2026 1sts
something around Panarin for Nemec +
then
extended Shesty 5 yrs x 12.2 retained 2m per
KAM
Nemec
for
Byfield + picks
Lindgren/Trouba/Vesey for best offers
faster they start playing youth earlier growing pains will end
how much that is more build than tool or vice versa, is subjective
He is not on the block
anyone can be had for overpayment, but prefer to retain
Cuylle - Chytil/Brodz - KK
or even open to KK at pivot there
so answer would be a signif haul
Kakko stays (I think he walks in FA)
Reasonable to think he stays if mgmt ditches vets
KAM top $ or I gamble on his potential (He's awful and continues to be. Top dollar for what?)
He's not awful, some posters saying so does not make it so.
He is physically gifted
He has played solid mentally from time to time, but screws up when he overcompensates
So top $ for that, and not to succumb to yr partisan desire to see he is poached for less
Fox not listed, moved to induce Zib to VAN (You're trading Fox? While i will agree he's not as special as he's been made out to be, he's probably the smartest player in the league. But intimidating? No. Tough to play against? No. He's the worst skater in the league. But you guys will hang onto him way too far into that contract)
What Fox is/can be as a skater is irrelevant, since he's not gonna turn into Bobby Orr. He is a terrif fit for VAN, great top pair partner, contract takes him to like 30, not too late, he is functional + as a skater, and is not gonna become subpar next coupla yrs. Rest of his game is elite mentally, high end otherwise.
As applies here, it is irrelevant. Fox needs to go to have us lose Zib and bring back futures, end of story
Vesey is blocking Rempe, stupidly; he goes (Rempes time in the league is almost up. He's big, that's it. He "likes" to fight. He's not that good at it. He's a dangerous player, not dynamic. Hits players to hurt not to separate and make a play. Sure Vesey is not much but he's got more value on the ice. Rempe in the gift shop).
Rempe is worth more than Vesey, has mo upside
and the faster the stupid R mgmt yields to me on this, and admit on this I am right and they are wrong, the faster he will develop here in the NHL and add, not subtract
That you criticize him so much is telling
be afraid
be very afraid
You need to redo the D, only a few pieces that can provide a path to win a cup. And while that wint happen paying Igor $12M to play into his later 30s while probably going into a retool at a min (likely a rebuild) is gonna be awful.
First thing is make all the overall improvements I said
Garand w/Quick + Domingue support is fine
we will be thin 1-2 slots at LD but will get thru it till cavalry gets here
As I said, I'm all for it
An archangel in particular does not need the endorsement of his counterpart
No on yr props
NY is not giving away youth
Breeze 44
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Lost me at Rempe is raw and DYNAMIC... uggh
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LaffyTaffy13
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Igor at the TDL at 50% retained probably brings back on of the biggest deadline hauls perhaps ever
KAM has not been good this year but willing to bet he can turn it around. Would hogs + 3rd get it done? Hogs is a very hardworking player.
I expect NYR may say you don’t want wingers but we need to move salary to accomadate KAM, unless NYR is willing to retain.
I expect NYR may say you don’t want wingers but we need to move salary to accomadate KAM, unless NYR is willing to retain.
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Would you do any of those deals if you were the Rangers?
That's a rhetorical question. We both know the answer.
Matt Rentfree
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That would solve about 60% of the Rangers problems in one trade.
HuGort
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If his return fixes your D right. Makes an average goalie a good goalie. Can acquire seasoned vet from non playoff team reasonable
