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Post-Game Talk: New York Rangers at Pittsburgh Penguins |Game 1| 5/2/14

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I really don't get the extensive usage of McD on the PP. It's not like it's rolling and you wouldn't want to break it up, it's pretty obvious that he can't really shoot with his injury. He gets more than enough ice time without the PP, so why keep putting him on it?
 
jniklast said:
I really don't get the extensive usage of McD on the PP. It's not like it's rolling and you wouldn't want to break it up, it's pretty obvious that he can't really shoot with his injury. He gets more than enough ice time without the PP, so why keep putting him on it?
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Protect the shortie
 
I Am Chariot said:
Protect the shortie
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This might be true if Staal wasn't our best D-Man thus far in the playoffs.

I see absolutely no reason as to why STaal can't replace him on the PP. He's shown an ability to producer there and is easily our best D-Man if not player at the moment.

If I was AV I'd absolutely swap the two.

That's no knock on McD as I adore the guy, but he is, as we all are aware, playing with some sort of injury/hindrance at the moment which has affected either his shooting ability or at the very least, his will to shoot.
 
TurgePurge said:
On the Pens first goal:

I don't get how anyone could call out McD for that goal. When he goes down low we have not one but two forwards (Zucc and Poo) up near the blueline. Then Pouliot makes one of the three worst reads I can remember a player making off the top of my head. The other two would be McIlrath this year and Kreider in game 7 last year before the Asham goal. Just a horrible reckless decision by Pouliot. Is McD playing to his standard. No. But not every play has to fit a narrative. Poo made a disgusting read and then we were still in fine shape but everyone just eased up on the play. Nonetheless if the backhander goes wide or blocked nobody says a word about McD on the play.

On Nash:

The key to winning this series will be puck management. Being strong on the puck and moving it quickly and safely up the ice. In this regard the entire Rangers team was in a funk. Probably the worst game of the 8 playoff games. And Nash stood out in terms of horrible puck management.
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Hit the nail on the head.

McDonagh is trying to generate offense. When he does, its imperative for a forward to cover. We had more than enough players back, including Brassard, who didn't finish his backcheck.

On top of that, it was a so so goal. Kind of a weak backhander where Hank seemed out of position.

Maybe Mac is hurt a bit, but he is still playing well. Knocking him is the flavor of the day here on HF. Replace him with Diaz!!!! Put Stralman on the PP!!!

Idiotic.
 
jniklast said:
I really don't get the extensive usage of McD on the PP. It's not like it's rolling and you wouldn't want to break it up, it's pretty obvious that he can't really shoot with his injury. He gets more than enough ice time without the PP, so why keep putting him on it?
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I think more of the problem is that G is on the other unit... I say go with staal on the first unit and strals on the second
 
Replace J Moore with Diaz and try Diaz on the PP. The last time I saw him on the point he was bombing some nice low ones, most of them on net.
 
The problem with replacing John Moore with Diaz is that I actually think John Moore has played reasonably well. He's aggressive and has made some nice pinches. He can carry the puck in to the zone and rush like a forward. I've seen him several times go to the net. In this regard I'm not sure Diaz would be an improvement, however Diaz did look good on the PP when he was on it.

Tough call, but they have to change the powerplay regardless. There are no words to describe it anymore.
 
It's just that I think having someone who is not reluctant to shoot might make the PP more dynamic, with rebounds from Fleury and the players being eager to get to the puck. They stand around thinking about all the different ways they can beat this subpar goalie, but they rarely get to him.
Let them fly, screen, deflect, chase rebounds.
 
Riche16 said:
All I know is, play like that and it'll be over in 5... For the Pens.
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Uh, what?

Rangers owned the first. Pens owned the second. Third was a tie. The Rangers were better in OT.

In what universe were the Pens THAT much better than us?
 
I've always said that Diaz > Moore... also think Moore should be removed from the PP asap. I have no idea why gets so much time there.
 
Ail said:
The problem with replacing John Moore with Diaz is that I actually think John Moore has played reasonably well. He's aggressive and has made some nice pinches. He can carry the puck in to the zone and rush like a forward. I've seen him several times go to the net. In this regard I'm not sure Diaz would be an improvement, however Diaz did look good on the PP when he was on it.

Tough call, but they have to change the powerplay regardless. There are no words to describe it anymore.
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It comes down to fixing things that aren't broken. The Rangers won the first game. It wasn't exactly stolen by our goaltender. The Rangers IMO played a smart game and took advantage of enough of Pittsburgh's screw ups to win and there were plenty they didn't take advantage of. I wouldn't change the lineup. I don't see the point. Too many people have agendas--they like this guy--they don't like that guy. Who really gives a ****? This isn't a ****ing popularity contest. To me the thing that matters is we win and whether or not this favorite guy of one poster or that favorite guy of another poster is in the lineup doesn't matter. Keep the lineup the same unless the team starts losing or someone becomes a problem. The exception to that rule is when Kreider becomes healthy.
 
AHB said:
This might be true if Staal wasn't our best D-Man thus far in the playoffs.

I see absolutely no reason as to why STaal can't replace him on the PP. He's shown an ability to producer there and is easily our best D-Man if not player at the moment.

If I was AV I'd absolutely swap the two.

That's no knock on McD as I adore the guy, but he is, as we all are aware, playing with some sort of injury/hindrance at the moment which has affected either his shooting ability or at the very least, his will to shoot.
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AV said in his PC today when asked about Staal and Stralman on the PP, he said he has a reason/s but feels uncomfortable sharing it out loud.
 
eco's bones said:
It comes down to fixing things that aren't broken. The Rangers won the first game. It wasn't exactly stolen by our goaltender. The Rangers IMO played a smart game and took advantage of enough of Pittsburgh's screw ups to win and there were plenty they didn't take advantage of. I wouldn't change the lineup. I don't see the point. Too many people have agendas--they like this guy--they don't like that guy. Who really gives a ****? This isn't a ****ing popularity contest. To me the thing that matters is we win and whether or not this favorite guy of one poster or that favorite guy of another poster is in the lineup doesn't matter. Keep the lineup the same unless the team starts losing or someone becomes a problem. The exception to that rule is when Kreider becomes healthy.
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Do you not consider the Rangers PP broken at this point? If our PP was clicking in the Philly series we could have ended that series much quicker. It will probably go the same way in this series. Though I really think we're missing Kreider here. His speed and ability to track the puck down in the offensive zone really helped our PP. Of course having McDonagh at 100% would definitely help as well.
 
trilobyte said:
Replace J Moore with Diaz and try Diaz on the PP. The last time I saw him on the point he was bombing some nice low ones, most of them on net.
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I was thinking the exact same thing...might get our PP going...worth a shot...and with 5 games in 7 days after game 3 in this series...might be worth dropping a forward to add a 7th D for some rest...
 
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Leetch66 said:
I was thinking the exact same thing...might get our PP going...worth a shot...and with 5 games in 7 days after game 3 in this series...might be worth dropping a forward to add a 7th D for some rest...
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When you roll four lines you can't carry 7 D and expect a net gain as far as rest is concerned, what forward are you going to double shift with the 4th line? Going to play a D-man on the 4th? What sense does that make?
 
Affinity said:
Do you not consider the Rangers PP broken at this point? If our PP was clicking in the Philly series we could have ended that series much quicker. It will probably go the same way in this series. Though I really think we're missing Kreider here. His speed and ability to track the puck down in the offensive zone really helped our PP. Of course having McDonagh at 100% would definitely help as well.
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Do you really think that Diaz for Moore is going to make any difference on our pwp?

A reason why the pwp has gone south is they continue to do the same **** over and over. They're forcing too many plays and not taking enough shots and driving hard enough to the net. When the pwp isn't working usually the best idea is to simplify things.
 
eco's bones said:
It comes down to fixing things that aren't broken. The Rangers won the first game. It wasn't exactly stolen by our goaltender. The Rangers IMO played a smart game and took advantage of enough of Pittsburgh's screw ups to win and there were plenty they didn't take advantage of. I wouldn't change the lineup. I don't see the point. Too many people have agendas--they like this guy--they don't like that guy. Who really gives a ****? This isn't a ****ing popularity contest. To me the thing that matters is we win and whether or not this favorite guy of one poster or that favorite guy of another poster is in the lineup doesn't matter. Keep the lineup the same unless the team starts losing or someone becomes a problem. The exception to that rule is when Kreider becomes healthy.
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Well, we've seen situations where the players admit they aren't moving or doing what they should be doing. Just because they admit it and know it, does not necessarily cause any change. AV should change some players on the PP. I really don't understand how that would not be the first thing to do.
What does that have to do with a popularity contest?
 
McDonagh isn't taking slap shots. Has to be injury related.

His timing is off as is his care of the puck. He's trying to do too much but my guess is the injury is prevented him from doing what he can.

A struggling Mcdonagh is still pretty good.
 
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