GDT: New York Rangers 2018-2019 Training Camp Thread

[E-Train]

Keane looks bigger than listed and was very good physically and offensively at TC. Looking forward to seeing him in the lineup.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

I wouldn't say he sucked. And he was the captain of that Traverse team, a lot of trainers in the organization appreciate his talents, but obviously not Quinn. Then he would allow him to play a preseason game up here.

Ronning not getting into a preseason game isn’t as crazy as you’re trying to make it seem

 

[Harbour Dog]

maybe, but Gilmour prefers the right side. Most of his AHL time last year was on the right.

Never knew that. I thought his preference was the left side.

In the case of him and Smith both being lefties that prefer the right, I guess it's more of a toss up.

 

[Kovalev27]

No zucc or Shattenkirk still

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I think the coaching staff has a pretty good handle on where Ronning is right now.

This isn't an incitement on him as a player, he'll have every opportunity to kill it down in the A (where he was going to end up anyway) and be one of the first call ups but it's pretty crowded up front and they want to get a look at other guys.

 

[Webster]

No zucc or Shattenkirk still

They have a few privileges

 

[Joey Bones]

What are the expectations for Jesper Fast? Seems to be a decent bet for 30 pts a season, maybe if he plays with Lias he could hit 40?

I'd say 40 points is more around his speed as an interchangeable forward in the lineup. Some nights he plays in the bottom 6, sometimes he plays in the top 6. He gets better every year!!

 

[LaffyTaffy]

I'd love to see
Names - Zib - Buch
Gropp - Chytil - Spooner
Vesey - Howden - Lettieri
Fontaine - Holland - Belleskey

Skjei - ADA
Hajek - Keane
Gilmour - Smith

I know it wont happen but that would be the most fun for me to watch

 

[Blue Blooded]

That lineup should be fun. Just spitballing:

Vesey-Zib-Spooner
Names-Chytil-Buch
Fontaine-Howden-Lettieri
Gropp-Holland-Beleskey

Skjei-Ada
Smith-Keane
Hajek-Gilmour

I'm a simple man. I see Skjei-DeAngelo, I like.

 

[DanielBrassard]

I'd love to see
Names - Zib - Buch
Gropp - Chytil - Spooner
Vesey - Howden - Lettieri
Fontaine - Holland - Belleskey

Skjei - ADA
Hajek - Keane
Gilmour - Smith

I know it wont happen but that would be the most fun for me to watch

Would be an interesting lineup, but I would guess Smith plays with Keane or Hajek. Fontaine will be interesting to watch, can he grab a 4th line spot?

 

[Joey Bones]

I agree with @Trxjw I wonder how Gropp would do when paired with a playmaking center. He's a shoot first type with an excellent shot. NYR doesn't have many of those. Would like to see him with some PP time.

Probably won't happen due to his other flaws, but intriguing nonetheless....

 

[eco's bones]

Day has the size, strength, the skating. He should simplify his game and focus on his defense. Watching the first game in Traverse---he was all over the place--doing all kinds of stuff he didn't need to do.

As far as Ronning--it is what it is. I never expected that he was making the Rangers this year. The coaching staff no doubt ranking him behind a bunch of other forwards. Keep in mind that of the 27 forwards the Rangers brought to camp 19 of them have played at least one NHL game. Also that there's only 5 exhibitions left and the last two/three will probably be with 30 players or less. If the Rangers didn't see enough in practice that they thought they wanted to give him a slot in the next couple games then might as well send him to Hartford.

 

[GAGLine]

I think most of us expected to see him in a couple of pre-season games, but this coach found no room for him, probably based on his lack of size. We know Ronning has great talent, I really hope Quinn doesn't waste it. Be prepared for another Torts system.

You're just projecting your own biases and making assumptions. More likely is that Ronning just isn't ready for the NHL and that was apparent enough in practices and scrimmages that it wasn't necessary to see him in a preseason game.

None of the players who were cut today got a preseason game, so what's your excuse for the others? Does Quinn have a bias against big and fast players like Day? Does he have a bias against players named Gross?

Stop making up stuff to fit your agenda.

 

[Ola]

Day is a real emperor’s new cloaths phenomenon. Not really a good hockey player. And while skating certainly isn’t a weakness, it’s a strength, sure, but like overall he just don’t move great at all on the ice. Big and not very coordinated. Clumsy at times when he gets to the puck.

Compared to guys like Gilmour and TDA he isn’t even fast getting out of his own end. I don’t know if it’s the exceptional status thing or whatever, I just don’t at all see the same upside in him that others see. I am about as high on him as I was on Calle Andersson...

 

[Irishguy42]

 

[E-Train]

Let Ronning go down and play big
minutes. If he performs he'll get called up sooner than later. No concern at all.

 

[LORDE]

Let Ronning go down and play big
minutes. If he performs he'll get called up sooner than later. No concern at all.

Plz stop making sense... not allowed in here.

 

[Ola]

I like Ronning but he is a project that needs time.

This time of the year he shouldn’t just be able to get involved, he should basically be one of the players that stand out the most in the entire camp before he is ready for NHL duty. Like sure it’s no problem if a player type like him was creating chances but not scoring consistently. But with Ronning he is clearly still borderline able to get involved in the play to start with.

He needs to go the Jonathan Marchessault route. Made the NHL at 26. First solid year at 27. And then a top year at 28 last season. Most kids like this never makes it. It doesn’t necessarily take to 25 years of age for those that do make it. It’s not like we have to forget about him for 4 more years.

But if he is going to make it he must make the same journey as JAM did, starting in HFD. Keep building on his strengths slowly but surely, while perfecting his game in all other areas.

 

[Webster]

You're just projecting your own biases and making assumptions. More likely is that Ronning just isn't ready for the NHL and that was apparent enough in practices and scrimmages that it wasn't necessary to see him in a preseason game.

None of the players who were cut today got a preseason game, so what's your excuse for the others? Does Quinn have a bias against big and fast players like Day? Does he have a bias against players named Gross?

Stop making up stuff to fit your agenda.

So you too jumped on that silly anti Webster wagon

First of all, it's called an opinion, not an agenda.

And when it comes to Ronning, he has way more talent than any of the other guys you mentioned.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

So you too jumped on that silly anti Webster wagon

First of all, it's called an opinion, not an agenda.

And when it comes to Ronning, he has way more talent than any of the other guys you mentioned.

Based on??? The production as a 20-year old in the WHL?

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

that tweet should have been.

“Coach Quinn discusses Keane and other stuff”

 

[GAGLine]

So you too jumped on that silly anti Webster wagon

First of all, it's called an opinion, not an agenda.

And when it comes to Ronning, he has way more talent than any of the other guys you mentioned.

When you espouse a ridiculous conspiracy theory as a means to justify Zucc's eventual trade, yes, it is an agenda. You aren't fooling anyone.

I don't know what your relationship is with Zucc, but we get it. You love him and want him to be a Ranger for the rest of his natural life. That just isn't the reality of the situation. He's a very good player, but he's older and in the final year of his contract. The assets we can get for him at the deadline are likely more valuable to a rebuilding team than Zucc will be in the next number of years.

Who knows, maybe we'll trade Zucc and then he'll re-sign with us anyway. Best of both worlds, right? No player is bigger than the team. If trading Zucc is in the best interest of the Rangers, that is what they will do.

 

[Mac n Gs]

I'm a simple man. I see Skjei-DeAngelo, I like.

Back of the hype train, junior.

 

[Tob]

who's the troll in the presser that asked if Quinn liked the team's response to Boo getting an illegal hit to the head?

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Both tore up the WHL, just because the Oilers had room to fit him in last year and the Rangers didn't with Ronning doesn't mean he's any less of a prospect.

But I am realistic, he's still very young and can hopefully only get better. We'll see how his production is in the AHL this season and perhaps he can get a call up at some point if he proves people wrong.

Right.

It's everything else about Yamamoto that makes Ronning "less of a prospect".

Since. You know. Yamamoto is straight up a better prospect.