OT: New Owner! New Name? New Season? New Everything!!! — Oh, and New Thread. All things Washington NFL FootBall (beat it, Dan-Bag!!)

[kicksavedave]

That stuff about how Brock Purdy looks like an MVP candidate when Williams is at LT, and then looks very ordinary when Williams is out (which is backed up by Purdy being 12-0 with a healthy Williams, and 0-4 without one) should be kept front of mind in deciding (1) how to evaluate Howell this season and (2) whether to pick a QB in the draft. Not saying Howell is the guy or don't pick a QB under any circumstances - but if any of the QBs have flaws (and especially if they don't have a lot of experience playing under pressure and with collapsing pockets), then maybe press pause on it.

The point about OL making the QB, not vice versa, is a good one. TW was a 4th overall pick. But that 2010 draft was maybe the worst ever for QBs. LT is the most important position on the OL, but I still wouldn't pass on the QB at 2. If we were still drafting 4 or 5, then I'd go Alt or Fashanu, but at 2, they gotta go QB.

 

[g00n]

I don't see the same player watching Howell and Purdy so I don't buy putting it all on the OL

 

[usiel]

Looking the free agent class coming up seems like a lot more on the dline than anything else. The team should invest in some defensive ends. Hoping for an OL picks in the 2nd round.

 

[kicksavedave]

Now, if our new regime has the onions to pull a HOU and get back into the top 5 to get the LT PLUS the QB, well, that would make this draft an all-time thrill-ride.

I'd love that sort of aggressive move. Would depend on the LT being available when a team that wants to trade out of the first round though.

 

[ynotcaps]

I'd love that sort of aggressive move. Would depend on the LT being available when a team that wants to trade out of the first round though.

100%. That's the king move you only pull on the clock when your guy is there.

 

[ynotcaps]

Huge win for Michigan -- love seeing 'Bama lose.
But this game reinforced my opposition to Harbaugh -- why have a new guy back fielding the most important punt of the season? And what the HELL was the thinking in calling a timeout inside your own 5 when you're trying to run out the clock?! He's Mike McCarthy, but older and with more baggage.

Hoping for a UW win in the nightcap -- would be great to have Big 10 vs. PAC 10 to crown the champ in the final year of the latter.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

So far, this is a horrible way to call this game from a broadcasting style….

 

[John Price]

Michigannnnnnnnnn

 

[AlexModvechkin8]

Penix was unreal last night.

 

[Roric]

Just saw a mock that had us trading #2 away to the chargers (so they could take harrison jr.) for 1.06, joey bosa, 2.37, and 2025 first

Then presumably we take Alt at #6

Really hope the bears just decide to keep fields and we can bring williams home

 

[John Price]

I mean I could see it. Trading down would make sense. But also, the team needs a franchise QB to set the new era.

I lean towards them taking one of Daniels / Maye (probably maye) and drafting an OL later in the draft.

Should be also noted that this season's draft class has been putrid. Stromberg has been injured, Forbes is mixed, and Rodriguez Jr was arguably the best performer. Hoping the new FO drafts a more impactful rookie class.

 

[Ridley Simon]

That’s a Hmmmm idea. Bosa is always hurt though. Like always.

 

[Neil Racki]

Dont overthink things.

Stay at 2 (if we get it).

Draft Williams or Maye.

Cross your fingers.

At 2 overall with QB need and 2 QBs seemingly 1 and 2 respectively ..

Dont overthink it

 

[John Price]

Washington has had a very shitty record with top 5 picks, but all of them were in the Snyder era.

RG3

Chase Young

I would trust Williams or Maye in the new ownership and new coaching staff

 

[Roric]

i watched a lot of Drake Maye this year and i do believe he will be a serviceable NFL QB but nothing really blows me away with his game for him to be in the discussion for a top 5 pick. He'll probably prove me wrong but that's my opinion. MHJ is probably the best pure talent in the draft...if the bears decide to go with williams, why not something like this:

Harrison round 1
Penix round 2
Left Tackle round 2
TE round 3
RT round 3

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Or maybe the guy who has barely played all year, then suddenly gets a much increased workload, just tweaked a hammy. Occam's Razor and whatnot.

I bet he plays.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Penix was unreal last night.

He's always had a strong arm but he absolutely assblasted some of those throws with extra gasoline. And he's accurate with it

 

[Beef Invictus]

i watched a lot of Drake Maye this year and i do believe he will be a serviceable NFL QB but nothing really blows me away with his game for him to be in the discussion for a top 5 pick. He'll probably prove me wrong but that's my opinion. MHJ is probably the best pure talent in the draft...if the bears decide to go with williams, why not something like this:

Harrison round 1
Penix round 2
Left Tackle round 2
TE round 3
RT round 3

I'd be shocked if Penix makes it to the 2nd

 

[AlexModvechkin8]

Love Penix but his injury history really gives you pause for concern. He’s torn the same ACL twice and has separated both shoulders. Don’t think he played a full season during his entire tenure at Indiana.

Will be interesting to see how he gets graded.

 

[Neil Racki]

I'd be shocked if Penix makes it to the 2nd

Daunte Culpepper clone .. he really helped is draft stock with decisive reads, zipping balls into tight windows with accuracy

 

[kicksavedave]

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You should have taken the bet, you might have won some internet points.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Daunte Culpepper clone .. he really helped is draft stock with decisive reads, zipping balls into tight windows with accuracy

I've had Maye as my top accessible QB but Penix might have just edged him out

 

[kicksavedave]

Love Penix but his injury history really gives you pause for concern. He’s torn the same ACL twice and has separated both shoulders. Don’t think he played a full season during his entire tenure at Indiana.

Will be interesting to see how he gets graded.

Say what we will about Sam Howell, he's tough a nails to survive the abuse this OL and EB heaped on him. Putting a fragile QB into this mess seems very Redskinny. RR'ish even.

Washington has had a very shitty record with top 5 picks, but all of them were in the Snyder era.

RG3

Chase Young

I would trust Williams or Maye in the new ownership and new coaching staff

You may be young enough to forget the amazing Desmond Howard (2), Heath Shuler(3) or Michael Westbrook(4) mega busts, but I still have PTSD from those three.

 

[Midnight Judges]

Washington has had a very shitty record with top 5 picks, but all of them were in the Snyder era.

RG3

Chase Young

I would trust Williams or Maye in the new ownership and new coaching staff

Trent Williams and Chris Samuals were good picks.

 

[Neil Racki]

I've had Maye as my top accessible QB but Penix might have just edged him out

The ability to win inside the pocket, to find the simple answers but also know when to push the ball when opportunities arise, separates the difference-making quarterbacks and the middle tier.

2024 NFL mock draft: Why Drake Maye is the man for Chicago, while the top 10 is a run on offense

Nate Tice's second mock draft goes into detail on why Drake Maye is QB1, why the Patriots get their QB (just not Caleb Williams), and why we don't see our first defensive player off the board until well into the first round.

sports.yahoo.com

This write up on Maye .. says all the right things you want to hear.

Howell is like a C+ at everything, which I was fine with .. until hes shown he cant read Ds pre snap, doesnt make decisive decisions,

I want a QB that can:
- read a D pre snap
- be decisive on getting the ball out quickly if pressure
- feel for game when to take those deep shots
- ability to create off schedule if needed

Maye is like a A- at everything .. per this glowing scouting report.

Maye is like a 5 star Howell

Maye or Williams .. Im happy.