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kicksavedave said:
We could put the fully mature love child of Tom Brady and Joe Montana behind this OL and he will fail.

JD scares me under any normal circumstance. But putting JD behind this OL where he will get sacked 50 plus times, is a metaphysical guaranteed recipe for disaster.

We have a mountain of cap room and multiple top 50 picks. They need to fix the entire OL before they can expect to put any young QB behind them and have success. Use the space and picks to fix the OL, then any QB including Howell, can actually prosper.
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Like you said though, use FA to address the OL, and picks after our top one. With a mountain of space and picks they don't need to spend their top 5, maybe top 3 pick on an OT. In a draft as coveted as this for QB, that seems like a huge wasted opportunity. This team has a chance to go get a young stud playmaker at the most important position by far and don't have to give a million first round picks to get him. I like sam...but IMO he's not built to lead them to the promised land
 
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Dude, how can you say JD is not Jalen Hurts in one post and in literally the next post say he is Bryce Young??? I get you don't dig him, and that's completely cool and I'll give you that may very well be right. But you can't say that a 6'4, 210 guy is not 6'1, 230 guy but he is a 5'10" 205 guy!
He's not Bryce Young in any respect at all, including in his arm talent and explosiveness.

On a separate but related note, I wonder how Carolina fans feel today, seeing that there are at least 4 (Caleb, Maye, JD, Penix) at maybe as many as 7 (McCarthy and Sanders if they declare, and Nix if he's not the fraud I think he is) QBs in this draft better than the guy they mortgaged their franchise to take #1 last year.
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Bryce Young and Jayden Daniel’s are both awfully thin scatterback QB’s who did well in an SEC system that allowed them to win the Heisman, due to being surrounded by superior talent on their side of the ball.

That’s how I compare them.
 
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kicksavedave said:
We could put the fully mature love child of Tom Brady and Joe Montana behind this OL and he will fail.

JD scares me under any normal circumstance. But putting JD behind this OL where he will get sacked 50 plus times, is a metaphysical guaranteed recipe for disaster.

We have a mountain of cap room and multiple top 50 picks. They need to fix the entire OL before they can expect to put any young QB behind them and have success. Use the space and picks to fix the OL, then any QB including Howell, can actually prosper.
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I propose the fully matured love child of Lamar Jackson and Steve Young instead….I think he would be ok. ;)
 
I will say it would be a CRIME to not take a QB, among the 7 that should be available (Williams, Maye, Daniel’s, Nix, McCarthy, Penix, Travis).

And I like Howell, but he’s a tweener. Could be good, could be meh. Skins need someone that is a blueblood.

Skins have SIX (6) of the top 104 picks in the draft. They have lots of resources to do most anything (especially if they land no worse than 4th OA), to land whichever of the QB’s they think will be a total stud — amongst that 7.

They have to take one.

They will STILL have oddles of picks and oodles of money to fix the O-line.

This is the year for QB’s, and I never say that (if you’ve read me here over the years, this is the first time since RG3 that I’m advocating to run at a top QB at the draft). We cannot let it pass us by.
 
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To me, McCarthy is a big wild card. One, we still don't know if he'll declare. But more so because MICH is such a run-heavy scheme, I don't really know what kind of passer he'll be. Could be great, I just don't know.
 
kicksavedave said:
With an entirely new GM/FO making these calls.
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This is the key assumption for everything IMO.

The new front office needs to make an assessment of Howell and make the rest of their decisions decisively based on that.

If you like him as your QB1 then build around him accordingly. If you don’t then move on and get a QB1 with that first pick. I hate the idea of hedging your bets on him and using a high 2nd on a potential replacement. This team has too many holes to potentially waste a pick there on a maybe type situation IMO.
 
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Ajax1995 said:
This is the key assumption for everything IMO.

The new front office needs to make an assessment of Howell and make the rest of their decisions decisively based on that.

If you like him as your QB1 then build around him accordingly. If you don’t then move on and get a QB1 with that first pick. I hate the idea of hedging your bets on him and using a high 2nd on a potential replacement. This team has too many holes to potentially waste a pick there on a maybe type situation IMO.
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And NONE of those holes is as big and matters as much as the QB.

If we get top-2, it would likely be negligent to not draft a QB. Beyond that, I’d rather spend a 2nd on a backup to develop. If not top 4, I would try to trade back, use the later 2nd for a QB.
 
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6'4 is pretty good size for a QB. Im liking JD more and more. You really cant pass on that kindof upside when you have a chance. The last LSU heisman winner turned out pretty damn good.

On Bryce Young. Name one good Alabama QB in the NFL from the Nick Saban era.
 
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And NONE of those holes is as big and matters as much as the QB.

If we get top-2, it would likely be negligent to not draft a QB. Beyond that, I’d rather spend a 2nd on a backup to develop. If not top 4, I would try to trade back, use the later 2nd for a QB.
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And I said if the new regime doesn’t believe Howell is the guy then they 100% need to use that first pick on the guy.

They aren’t getting a top 2 pick unless they trade up for it, in which case they don’t believe Howell is the guy so great.

The question is what do they do with the 4th pick or possibly 3rd if things go there way.
 
Speaking of Bryce. JD may be skinny, but at least he's not short. Anything under 6'0 for QB is a hard pass. 6'1-2+ preferable
 
Ajax1995 said:
And I said if the new regime doesn’t believe Howell is the guy then they 100% need to use that first pick on the guy.

They aren’t getting a top 2 pick unless they trade up for it, in which case they don’t believe Howell is the guy so great.

The question is what do they do with the 4th pick or possibly 3rd if things go there way.
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They are very likely headed to a maybe situation….so I don’t have an issue burning a 2nd on another young QB.

If they (new regime) totally love Sam, take Harrison at 3 or trade back and build around him. Would try to move back only a handful of spots only to get a LT then….Alt intrigues me if a tackle.
 
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CapitalsCupReality said:
They are very likely headed to a maybe situation….so I don’t have an issue burning a 2nd on another young QB.

If they (new regime) totally love Sam, take Harrison at 3 or trade back and build around him. Would try to move back only a handful of spots only to get a LT then….Alt intrigues me if a tackle.
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I didn't realize until I saw in the last week or two that Alt is also just 20 y.o. (Same as Fashanu.) That's a lot of prime years in both those guys. B/t the two, my preference is for Fashanu in that he's been in the spotlight since lead-up to last year's draft and he's a local kid. I also have a small nit about Alt's height -- the taller the blocker, the greater likelihood to get bendy and lose balance.
But if we end up with him, I won't be sad at all.
 
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Ajax1995 said:
This is the key assumption for everything IMO.

The new front office needs to make an assessment of Howell and make the rest of their decisions decisively based on that.

If you like him as your QB1 then build around him accordingly. If you don’t then move on and get a QB1 with that first pick. I hate the idea of hedging your bets on him and using a high 2nd on a potential replacement. This team has too many holes to potentially waste a pick there on a maybe type situation IMO.
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I guess where I am coming from, is recognizing that they aren’t fixing all that ails them, in one off season.

They won’t plug all their holes. But beyond that, they need true difference makers, wherever they can draft them, regardless of position.

Even if you LOVE Howell as your QB, this is a special QB draft. They should be all over teams BPA lists. One slides for you, you jump on it. You HAVE too.

Howell and next year be damned. We need our QB of the future, and Howell is no slam dunk with that.

Unless you believe he is?
 
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If you stick with Sam, I think you gotta go either Alt or Fashanu at 4. As great as MHJ is, this offensive line is bad. My philosophy is that it is harder to find good starting tackles after the 1st round compared to wide receiver. Just look at guys like Hill, Brown, Diggs, Kupp, Samuel, Metcalf, and McLaurin. All were drafted in the 2nd or later. This is a good WR class so they should be able to get someone in rounds 2 or 3 that can contribute. I think you go LT, EDGE, and WR/DB with the first 3 picks
 
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dreadpirateroberts said:
If you stick with Sam, I think you gotta go either Alt or Fashanu at 4. As great as MHJ is, this offensive line is bad. My philosophy is that it is harder to find good starting tackles after the 1st round compared to wide receiver. Just look at guys like Hill, Brown, Diggs, Kupp, Samuel, Metcalf, and McLaurin. All were drafted in the 2nd or later. This is a good WR class so they should be able to get someone in rounds 2 or 3 that can contribute. I think you go LT, EDGE, and WR/DB with the first 3 picks
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It’s either OT or QB with the first pick. Period End
 
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Official attendance for the Falcons / Panthers game this past Sunday (held in Carolina).
5200.

Carolina is in a lot of trouble. Bryce Young has not turned out to be the saviour, and they gave away their first round pick next year to the Bears. Time relocate to Kansas City (oh I'm sorry that the Penguins).
 
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If they want a QB, use the first pick on him. I’m not a draft one in the second round guy.

The early second is going to be fertile ground for interior linemen and LBs.
 
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