OT: New Owner! New Name? New Season? New Everything!!! — Oh, and New Thread. All things Washington NFL FootBall (beat it, Dan-Bag!!)

[CapitalsCupReality]

huh?

or EB?

You know .. the geniuis offensive guy that is doing some amazing coaching w Sam and is making great in game and week to week adjustments ..

You want an innovative offensive coach? E f***ing B

My list was looking outside our organization.

You’re clearly highest of any poster here on EB, while the rest of us see a guy running an unbalanced offense, but a guy still showing great promise.

Maybe there’s a deeper agenda with the throw-heavy offense, meaning Management wants to use this opportunity to see if Sam can be THE GUY, or maybe it’s something EB needs to work on.

Aside from the coach staff, there is no greater decision next year in a draft with some great QBs….

That’s why I suggested weeks ago they clear out RR and JDR and let EB in-season audition for the job. We would know in short time if he’s the guy then.

 

[Neil Racki]

My list was looking outside our organization.

You’re clearly highest of any poster here on EB, while the rest of us see a guy running an unbalanced offense, but a guy still showing great promise.

Maybe there’s a deeper agenda with the throw-heavy offense, meaning Management wants to use this opportunity to see if Sam can be THE GUY, or maybe it’s something EB needs to work on.

Aside from the coach staff, there is no greater decision next year in a draft with some great QBs….

That’s why I suggested weeks ago they clear out RR and JDR and let EB in-season audition for the job. We would know in short time if he’s the guy then.

Im medium on EB. I was medium when we hired him and above medium on him now. BUT hes shown some coaching chops past 3 games imo. A coaching impact I havent seen on this team in a long time.

EB and Sam are making me believers.

Firing Ron mid season?
Over looking EB to hire some young guy from Detroit to be your HC?

IDK man .. seems very Redskinny to me.

 

[bacchist]

If they canned RR and JDR and let EB finish the season, we might be able to find signs that he IS the guy. But I don't think we'd be able to say for sure that he is not. Inheriting this team in shambles mid-season, expectations would have to be low. Hard to imagine how bad it would have to get to confirm he's not up for the task.

 

[Ridley Simon]

OTOH hand maybe they're throwing so much just to get Howell the practice and development...

I think it’s this. There are a few teams that use the “short pass as a run”. Skins just do it more than anyone else

it was actually 2 years

but it'll be 1 year if the Commanders want to cut ties and bring in a whole new coaching staff at year's end

ofc they could always promote him

I think I am ok with this. Especially if the new GM wants it.

 

[kicksavedave]

I think the QB decision is entirely over with, Sam is going to be our guy moving forward, he's proven he has what it takes, even with a few too many sacks that were on him. The change in his OL shows how he responds to better players around him - very well.

The GM and then HC are the question marks for this offseason.

 

[John Price]

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Im medium on EB. I was medium when we hired him and above medium on him now. BUT hes shown some coaching chops past 3 games imo. A coaching impact I havent seen on this team in a long time.

EB and Sam are making me believers.

Firing Ron mid season?
Over looking EB to hire some young guy from Detroit to be your HC?

IDK man .. seems very Redskinny to me.

I suggested weeks ago to fire Ron and audition EB now.

If they canned RR and JDR and let EB finish the season, we might be able to find signs that he IS the guy. But I don't think we'd be able to say for sure that he is not. Inheriting this team in shambles mid-season, expectations would have to be low. Hard to imagine how bad it would have to get to confirm he's not up for the task.

You’re not at all looking at W/L record in that audition…..you’re looking how he organizes, delegates, teaches, how he leads with nobody above him on the coaching staff. That CAN be discerned…you absolutely would be able to see if he’s got the chops or not, for the specific job in DC.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Btw Ken Dorsey (OC) fired in Buffalo lol….

 

[bacchist]

I suggested weeks ago to fire Ron and audition EB now.


You’re not at all looking at W/L record in that audition…..you’re looking how he organizes, delegates, teaches, how he leads with nobody above him on the coaching staff. That CAN be discerned…you absolutely would be able to see if he’s got the chops or not, for the specific job in DC.

I see what you're saying, and I don't disagree. I guess I would just want to give him the benefit of the doubt. It seems like he'd be in such a tough spot without being able to staff up with his guys and repair the organization while trying to prepare a below average team for football games.

 

[Ajax1995]

Btw Ken Dorsey (OC) fired in Buffalo lol….

He was terrible.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

I see what you're saying, and I don't disagree. I guess I would just want to give him the benefit of the doubt. It seems like he'd be in such a tough spot without being able to staff up with his guys and repair the organization while trying to prepare a below average team for football games.

I want a guy to take the job….not be given anything.

It’s the NFL, it’s always going to be tough. He doesn’t need to do all those thing this season. He can rely on anyone not RR or JDR to finish out their season.

Ownership should expect to lose more games than they win the rest of this season, but you know they would value seeing the team battle their ass off under EB as interim HC.

If I’m Harris, I don’t want to wait much longer, and unless I’m already sold on EB taking over, I’d rather see him under fire now before I have to commit a multi-year $10 mil plus contract to him, plus all the other new staff he would bring in, further wasting more years if he doesn’t work out.

 

[bacchist]

I want a guy to take the job….not be given anything.

It’s the NFL, it’s always going to be tough. He doesn’t need to do all those thing this season. He can rely on anyone not RR or JDR to finish out their season.

Ownership should expect to lose more games than they win the rest of this season, but you know they would value seeing the team battle their ass off under EB as interim HC.

If I’m Harris, I don’t want to wait much longer, and unless I’m already sold on EB taking over, I’d rather see him under fire now before I have to commit a multi-year $10 mil plus contract to him, plus all the other new staff he would bring in, further wasting more years if he doesn’t work out.

Fair enough! It doesn't seem likely that they'll clean house before the off-season, but if they do and EB rises to the challenge, it would definitely give me more confidence in the team going into next season. Assuming he's the de facto successor, it's hard to tell at this point.

I just feel like we've driven both players and coaches out of town for struggling in what has been a toxic situation for so many years. I really want to see our people put in a position to succeed for a change.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Fair enough! It doesn't seem likely that they'll clean house before the off-season, but if they do and EB rises to the challenge, it would definitely give me more confidence in the team going into next season. Assuming he's the de facto successor, it's hard to tell at this point.

I just feel like we've driven both players and coaches out of town for struggling in what has been a toxic situation for so many years. I really want to see our people put in a position to succeed for a change.

Agree, but the toxicity source has been purged. I feel like EB doesn’t need the perfect setup scenario to show he’s the right man for this specific job.

If EB hasn’t sold himself to Harris yet, and he waits until the offseason when it’s open interview season, then he’ll be going up against the best options league-wide, because Harris wouldn‘t be doing proper due diligence in NOT interviewing other top candidates then….

 

[Roric]

Has anyone else noticed Mahomes and the Chiefs offensive struggles this year? They don't look nearly as good as years past. Could be EB was more important than many thought and it wasn't all just a product of Reid

 

[Jacoby4HOF66]

huh?

or EB?

You know .. the geniuis offensive guy that is doing some amazing coaching w Sam and is making great in game and week to week adjustments ..

You want an innovative offensive coach? E f***ing B

Labeling EB a genius is a stretch.

Has anyone else noticed Mahomes and the Chiefs offensive struggles this year? They don't look nearly as good as years past. Could be EB was more important than many thought and it wasn't all just a product of Reid

Mahomes has Kelce to throw to and that’s it. And Kelce has been banged up all year.

 

[Jacoby4HOF66]

Agree, but the toxicity source has been purged. I feel like EB doesn’t need the perfect setup scenario to show he’s the right man for this specific job.

If EB hasn’t sold himself to Harris yet, and he waits until the offseason when it’s open interview season, then he’ll be going up against the best options league-wide, because Harris wouldn‘t be doing proper due diligence in NOT interviewing other top candidates then….

I’m counting on Harris to do the right thing for once for this franchise. Hire a GM first and let that person hire the HC.

 

[kicksavedave]

I’m counting on Harris to do the right thing for once for this franchise. Hire a GM first and let that person hire the HC.

This 1000 times this.

What quality GM, with options and offers on the table and confidence to take the best role available to him, would want to come to a place where he doesn't even get a say in who the HC is?

Vinny Cerrato would be stoked. Bruce Allen maybe?

10,000,000X this ^^^

 

[Roric]

Labeling EB a genius is a stretch.


Mahomes has Kelce to throw to and that’s it. And Kelce has been banged up all year.

Are you saying that Juju Smith-Schuster and a slightly older/banged up Kelce is the difference between the Chiefs offensive performance of last year and the one now? Sounds like you just don't want to give any credit to EB

 

[Ovechkins Wodka]

If Ron is a lame duck and we are out of the playoffs. Its time for EBs try out at HC, Howell has pro bowl stats and looks like our dude. If EB did this he is our coach.

 

[g00n]

If Ron is a lame duck and we are out of the playoffs. Its time for EBs try out at HC, Howell has pro bowl stats and looks like our dude. If EB did this he is our coach.

I dunno, wasn't that Gruden's whole claim to fame...being the QB whisperer in Cincy? Didn't work out so well.

 

[Jacoby4HOF66]

Are you saying that Juju Smith-Schuster and a slightly older/banged up Kelce is the difference between the Chiefs offensive performance of last year and the one now? Sounds like you just don't want to give any credit to EB

Yes. Juju is a better compliment to Kelce than what is currently on KCs roster.

Are you saying EB was the brain trust behind all of KCs succes? That Andy Reid calling the plays is all for show? It would appear that you are.

It wasn’t that long ago up in NY that EB was out coached by a game show host.

 

[Ajax1995]

Yes. Juju is a better compliment to Kelce than what is currently on KCs roster.

Are you saying EB was the brain trust behind all of KCs succes? That Andy Reid calling the plays is all for show? It would appear that you are.

It wasn’t that long ago up in NY that EB was out coached by a game show host.

I have no doubt that losing Bieniemy was a blow to KC. He had been there a reasonable amount of time and they had a lot of success. But watching him call plays in DC leaves me with no doubt whatsoever why he wasn’t calling plays in KC. 55 passes in a row, are you f***ing kidding me?!?

I honestly can’t disagree more with the ‘give Bieniemy the head coaching job’ crew here. I get it, Rivera and Del Rio have been around for a while and are awful at this point, but is that really your bar, he’s better than them and doesn’t have the long time stink of failure they do?

I’m hoping for a complete clear out of all football personnel the day the season ends, including Bieniemy.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

I’m counting on Harris to do the right thing for once for this franchise. Hire a GM first and let that person hire the HC.

Possible….but not a lock. Also exposes EB to leave just as easily….

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

I have no doubt that losing Bieniemy was a blow to KC. He had been there a reasonable amount of time and they had a lot of success. But watching him call plays in DC leaves me with no doubt whatsoever why he wasn’t calling plays in KC. 55 passes in a row, are you f***ing kidding me?!?

I honestly can’t disagree more with the ‘give Bieniemy the head coaching job’ crew here. I get it, Rivera and Del Rio have been around for a while and are awful at this point, but is that really your bar, he’s better than them and doesn’t have the long time stink of failure they do?

I’m hoping for a complete clear out of all football personnel the day the season ends, including Bieniemy.

I’m saying….why not try him out the rest of the season? why not try before you buy, before watching him go off and have success elsewhere….(as is the more recent history of this franchise)? What if they’re going pass happy to really test out SH?

I would be fine with a complete housecleaning if EB isn’t the guy for Harris and Co. maybe they already know that….maybe not.

 

[Jags]

I’m saying….why not try him out the rest of the season?

Because I think you learn most of what you need to know from a conversation at this point. They know who he is now, so all that's left is whether he's a head coach. So you ask him what he would do, who he would hire, how would he approach overseeing a defense, how much he'd be willing to let go of the offense, and so on.

His answers to those questions will tell the tale for the most part. And that overlooks the very real possibility that what they know about him so far may not be favorable beyond his current position. There are qualities about him that could break either way.

I could see him giving the perfect answers to those questions. But he's also a boisterously confident, refer-to-myself-in-the-3rd-person kind of guy that might come off like king shit, wanting some GM control, wanting to continue calling plays, believing that he should dictate a lot about the defense, and asks for a stupid-huge contract. He might be THAT guy.

I don't think that's the case, but it could be. And if it is, ownership probably already has that inkling about him.

If the Snyder Stigma is gone, I'd be more inclined to wait till the season's over and choose from the full field of candidates. EB might be good, but he's a gamble. A no-brainer might end up in the mix. Sean Payton talked last offseason about DC being a super-attractive job for a head coach if the ownership situation turned out well. We could land an established great, and I wouldn't want to complicate that because EB seemed to do pretty well in an interim role.