Mgd31
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Yea I like those 4 bottom right numbers. Seems he is very strong offensively at evens, but let him stew another year and work on the defensive piece.
Prospect Info: New Jersey Devils Draft Simon Nemec, 2nd Overall
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Yea I like those 4 bottom right numbers. Seems he is very strong offensively at evens, but let him stew another year and work on the defensive piece.
Not even just defensively but I'd also like more production before throwing him into the league.
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I think he'll be ready to play int he NHL by next October, tbh. I'm not against more AHL but if he's the best option in camp, he's the best option.
I'd like to see him dominate the AHL and then be able to step in ready to be a real impact player rather than just being a guy at the NHL level. I think that'd be better for his development.
For a kid playing his first season on NA ice and for a team that was struggling a lot to start the season it’s great to see him playing well. I hope he makes the team out of camp next year but another tour in the AHL wouldn’t be the end of the world, I’m sure he’ll get a good look up here next season at some point.
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vlady
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New edition of Simon's column: Stĺpček Šimona Nemca: Verím, že mi Devils dajú ochutnať NHL
quick summary
- he hopes to get a taste of the NHL this year and thinks he may get a chance if they trade someone before the deadline
- he says he is playing with more confidence than at the start of the season. He is creating chances even if the points are not there in recent games
- says he is happy that the team is playing better than at the start of the year
- the coaches spend more time with him analyzing videos than with players who have less chance of going up
quick summary
- he hopes to get a taste of the NHL this year and thinks he may get a chance if they trade someone before the deadline
- he says he is playing with more confidence than at the start of the season. He is creating chances even if the points are not there in recent games
- says he is happy that the team is playing better than at the start of the year
- the coaches spend more time with him analyzing videos than with players who have less chance of going up
that last tidbit is interesting in that I'm surprised he'd admit that openly.
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I thought the same. But it’s probably a well known thing around the league/management groups. It’s also pretty logical, teams want more ressources put on their top prospects.
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Also, the part where he thinks he may come up this year if they trade someone. I'm sure he didn't come up with that out of thin air.
I'd be shocked if any team puts as much into its second tier guys as the blue chippers but to openly admit it is a bit surprising to me. He's a teen so maybe a bit undiplomatic and maybe has a different outlook coming from Europe.
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I mean we have a lot of UFA’s. I’m sure he just meant it if for example Seves gets traded.
It would have to be a Sev trade. I wonder if they talked to him about possibly trading Severson if they are out of the playoff picture before the season and that's what he's referring to. I'm still on board with trading Severson at the deadline if we are pushing for the playoffs IF you think Nemec can step in and provide reliable 3rd pair minutes.
I just hate the idea of letting a valuable asset walk for nothing in the offseason when the roster is as young as it is. Having both Severson and Graves walk at free agency would hurt when you could get solid returns for both.
European players are VERY open when giving interviews to their countries reporters
This is a team that can compete and win. I'm not moving on from them for a return that might amount into something some day. Bite the bullet. I also don't want Nemec in the NHL just being "a guy". I really don't think he's ready to be an impact player and I'd rather him play a ton in the AHL than come up and just be a warm body who can maybe give you decent 3rd pair minutes.
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Fans care about ''Not getting any assets'' for pending UFA's much more than GM's do.
Unfortunately (and is it actually unfortunate?) that's what happens when you're a good team. You make the playoffs and your pending UFA's walk for nothing. We got very use to this up until the last 10 years.
It's made too much of a big deal about. Fitz cares more about seeing what this team can do than what playoff team's later first round pick he can get (that might just be the next Chase Stillman) for Severson. Especially if it's a team in the East we'll be competing against.
And that's just assuming he can get a first for him.
The only way I see Severson being traded is to potentially shed cap, like the Panthers did last year by sending Vatrano to the Rangers before acquiring Chiarot and Giroux.
It won't be because ''We need dem assets tho'' or so we can give Nemec those minutes.
Unfortunately (and is it actually unfortunate?) that's what happens when you're a good team. You make the playoffs and your pending UFA's walk for nothing. We got very use to this up until the last 10 years.
It's made too much of a big deal about. Fitz cares more about seeing what this team can do than what playoff team's later first round pick he can get (that might just be the next Chase Stillman) for Severson. Especially if it's a team in the East we'll be competing against.
And that's just assuming he can get a first for him.
The only way I see Severson being traded is to potentially shed cap, like the Panthers did last year by sending Vatrano to the Rangers before acquiring Chiarot and Giroux.
It won't be because ''We need dem assets tho'' or so we can give Nemec those minutes.
Mgd31
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We have made like a million draft picks over the last 5 years. We don't need more picks or assets at the moment. No interest in selling off "rentals" this year or for the foreseeable future.
Unless the team goes into a freefall they aren't going to sell off players at the deadline. Fitz will seemingly always look for a hockey trade but those are tougher in the flat cap era.
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Like I said, fans care about this shit more than anything. NHL front offices aren't really thinking about ''OMGZZZZZ WHAT IF WE DON'T GET ANYTHING FOR GRAVES AND SEVS?!'' but a lot of fans are very concerned with getting a late 1st or 2nd for a player that may amount to nothing at the NHL or possibly not be a contributor until Nico Hischier is almost 30 years old.
Players don't care about draft picks or assets. I'm sure if Fitz moved Sevs and/or Graves straight up for futures he'd have a big morale problem afterwards. Assuming the team doesn't go immediately South after the Allstar game they will start thinking about playoffs even if they won't talk about it openly. I doubt the player sit there and dissect the wins and losses the way the fans and media does. To them a win is a win for the most part and if anything they probably think the last second goals and OT wins are a good thing rather than a cause for concern.
I know this team is ahead of schedule, but it's crazy to think that a team that is currently 3rd in the entire league in points % would consider trading away a valuable pending UFA just so they don't "lose him for nothing". As much as I'd like to believe we have a very long Stanley Cup contender window opening up, you never know in this league (especially with injuries) and you don't weaken a really good chance now to potentially help in the future.
Our depth on defense drops off significantly after our top 5. Injuries in the playoffs are bound to happen, which is why most top teams tend to load up on depth defensemen. I think we're in a fortunate position where we already have good depth in-house between Luke, Nemec, Muk, Okhotiuk & Bahl that we may not need to acquire any depth D. If one of our top 5 defensemen go down, you can at least shelter the minutes for the bottom pairing - if we trade Severson though, we're taking a massive risk.
Our depth on defense drops off significantly after our top 5. Injuries in the playoffs are bound to happen, which is why most top teams tend to load up on depth defensemen. I think we're in a fortunate position where we already have good depth in-house between Luke, Nemec, Muk, Okhotiuk & Bahl that we may not need to acquire any depth D. If one of our top 5 defensemen go down, you can at least shelter the minutes for the bottom pairing - if we trade Severson though, we're taking a massive risk.
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You always need assets and should always manage your team with an eye towards keeping the prospect pool fresh. We haven’t even had that many extra early picks thanks to Shero.
That said, Damon “3rd Pair defenseman” Severson is averaging 20:36, over a minute more than Graves and ~5 minutes more than Smith. He’s not an easy guy to just ship off.
That said, Damon “3rd Pair defenseman” Severson is averaging 20:36, over a minute more than Graves and ~5 minutes more than Smith. He’s not an easy guy to just ship off.
My apologies as I’m sure it’s been discussed but…
How much cap space would the Devils need to create to add Meier if they can dump Johnnson’s contract via trade? Same question but in the event they do not shed that contract.
I know there are other factors involved such as how much, if any, $ would be retained by San Jose on the Meier contract. I wonder what is realistic to expect.
I am sure there are ways we can fit Meier in without shipping Severson out. I’m fine with him walking for nothing this summer. The circumstances have changed and we are a contender. Load up and take a crack at it. Fitz owes it to the boys to do so. I don’t like the message it would send by trading Severson.
How much cap space would the Devils need to create to add Meier if they can dump Johnnson’s contract via trade? Same question but in the event they do not shed that contract.
I know there are other factors involved such as how much, if any, $ would be retained by San Jose on the Meier contract. I wonder what is realistic to expect.
I am sure there are ways we can fit Meier in without shipping Severson out. I’m fine with him walking for nothing this summer. The circumstances have changed and we are a contender. Load up and take a crack at it. Fitz owes it to the boys to do so. I don’t like the message it would send by trading Severson.
I'm pretty sure you can just ship out Johnsson and perhaps at the most have to send someone down to take on Meier at 50% retained.
Pretty sure Johnsson+Holtz for a half retained Meier makes the money work
We can spend:
Cap: $82,500,000 + LTIR: $4,125,000 = $86,625,000
Current total expenditure: $83,490,887 (includes everything - Johansson, LTIR and buyouts)
Subtracting from what we can spend:
Cap Space: $3,134,113
Soooo... if we trade away Johnsson:
Johansson cap hit: $2,275,000
Cap space after trade: $5,409,113
Add to that whatever other asset we send over... say it's Holtz and Muk. Since Muk isn't on our roster yet, it's just Holtz:
Holtz: $894,167
Total free space:
$6,303,280
Meier: $6,000,000
Cap Excess: $303,280
We don't need *ANY* retention. We *MAY* ask for retention so we can make a minor move - depth D, depth C, etc, but we don't NEED it.
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