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Up to 3G 9A (12P) in 24 games. 0.5 PPG. Very good for an 18 year-old D-man's first pro N.A season.
Prospect Info: New Jersey Devils Draft Simon Nemec, 2nd Overall
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Who’s being put in a defensive role on one of the worst teams in the league.
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He is also +9, second on the team. His D partner is first. Next best is at +3.
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Despite not playing a big offensive role Nemec seems to doing quite well.
Jiricek doing really well particularly on the scoresheet with 18 points in 18 games. Would still take Nemec over him any day and it’s worth nothing that 11 of Jiricek’s 18 points have come on the powerplay where he appears to be playing a significant role vs 3 of Nemec’s. Cleveland also has the best powerplay in the league and scores 0.6 more goals per game overall than Utica.
Jiricek has 7 even strength points in 18 games vs Nemec’s 8 in 24.
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Also worth noting that Nemec barely plays on the powerplay. And that's not because he doesn't deserve to, its because the organization is grooming him to become a dominant 2-way force for the NJD for many years to come.
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Ya Walsh runs the top power play. Nemec gets some PP2 time but not always if I’m not mistaken. Jiricek is running the best power play in the AHL.
Jiricek has had a better start than Nemec to start their AHL careers but not by that much and he’s been in a much better position to succeed offensively than Nemec. Nemec playing the role he’s been given extremely well from the looks of it and I personally just like Nemec’s skillset and how it will translate better.
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I’ve been wanting to look up their comparatives, I had a hunch Jiricek got a lot of PP time on their top PP and most of his points were on the PP. Good stuff, thanks for this!
What the hell is wrong with all of you? Did no one else see who is at the bottom of the overall win shares list with Rockford?
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Simon Nemec is Slovakia's captain for the 2023 WJC!
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seems so. Now we just need Vilen to get the C for Finland. He should have a solid chance.
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And Petr Hauser C for the Czechs
I agree, but we are obviously a bit biased (also more knowledgable of Nemec's skillset), but I doubt CBJ and outside stat-watching fans would agree. I just think AHL is a whole different league, we've seen plenty of our prospect dominate the AHL, but struggle in the NHL. Jiricek's skating skill is also praised in his scouting reports, but I think Nemec outclasses him pretty easily there, especially in quickness and agility. Jiricek is a big boy, and I feel at least his top speed is lacking and could cause him trouble at NHL level (Miles Wood agrees). His skating may have looked great at the slower Czech league level (and AHL as well), but I didn't see it in the faster U20 tournament. Then again Ty Smith was also praised to be a fast and elite skater, so scouting reports can be misleading.
Kind of interesting that the guy who was thought of as the more defensive oriented of the two is killing it on the PP, while the more offensive of the two is playing on the top PK for his team but doesnt have much of a role on the PP.
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Jiricek being some shutdown guy was always a misconception some people had just because he’s big and plays physical. Nemec is very good offensively but the role you’re put in is always gonna have a big impact on your numbers. Wouldn’t think much of that.
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Somebody said that in a post about NJ prospects. They saw Nemec as more of a middle pair guy who may lack an elite trait or two (I’m paraphrasing from memory so specifics may be a bit off). The response is sort of a 3C thing.
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Ya I’m guessing that’s in reference to what I posted as I’m the one who posted prospect predictions today. I basically said he doesn’t really have an elite skillset (referencing physical tools more than anything) and probably ends up being a good #2 or 3 defensmen. Literally added in that I still think he has elite #1 potential.
Find it really odd that people take issue any with that. Don’t see how that is comparable to calling Nico a 3C whatsoever. Like I’ve been one of the bigger Nemec fans on here and that’s an incredibly reasonable view. Does Nemec have an elite skillset? Outside of being extremely smart no. Basically all his tools are good but not great. There’s nothing wrong with that but it could be what holds him back from becoming a top defensemen.
It’s a message board not a dissertation. Nuance and subtlety is almost always lost. There is typically more behind what folks will post in terms of player evaluations based on what they have seen. I can understand why you see it that way. We will probably be surprised one way or the other by Nemec as a player.
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To me (and I’ve watched a lot of Nemec in the last few months), his poise and IQ (especially in the O-zone and in transition) are elite. His skating to me is also elite, at worst very very good.
Ironic isn't it that Utica has won all 4 games played between the two teams? Nemec has only played 2 of them since he as in World's for the last 2.
Utica has incidentally just passed the Monsters with the those 2 wins and moved into 4th place in the North Division. Teams 2 -7 are separated by 6 points and 2-4 by 2. A couple wins or losses and a team can vault up the standings or crash down just as far. Utica has games in hand vs all of them except Rochester who has played the same number.
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