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I'll be honest, I do not think we missed out on anything. I would have actually rather we did absolutely nothing except the depth signings + bringing back Kampf.

Reaves and Klingberg are not exactly needs nor strong fits in our lineup.

So we are left with a weird 4th line that may just be unplayable, and a defenseman who doesn't fill a need and does not fit on any pairing.
 
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I'll be honest, I do not think we missed out on anything. I would have actually rather we did absolutely nothing except the depth signings + bringing back Kampf.

Reaves and Klingberg are not exactly needs nor strong fits in our lineup.

So we are left with a weird 4th line that may just be unplayable, and a defenseman who doesn't fill a need and does not fit on any pairing.
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Our entire bottom six is a trainwreck.

Hell, we also have a massive hole on the LW in our top six.
 
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SeaOfBlue said:
I'll be honest, I do not think we missed out on anything. I would have actually rather we did absolutely nothing except the depth signings + bringing back Kampf.

Reaves and Klingberg are not exactly needs nor strong fits in our lineup.

So we are left with a weird 4th line that may just be unplayable, and a defenseman who doesn't fill a need and does not fit on any pairing.
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IMHO doing anything concrete until Tavares is on the cap is a big no-no. I think we've already spent quite a bit and have nothing but only a 1 round win to show for it.

Leafs gotta take a few steps back IMO; and after Tavares is off the cap then re-evaluate.

Only thing Leafs should concern themselves with is Matthews and Nylander situation and nothing else. Ideally we deal Nylander and get some return which we can use post Tavares era in a concrete way.
 
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Bruce Arthur: Brad Treliving’s first day of free agency is underwhelming, with the attention not on who’s joining the Leafs but on who’s leaving

But free agency isn’t closed. This isn’t the Leafs roster that will open camp in the fall.
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As predicted, the period in which the Leafs could have more easily traded a core piece passed: Auston Matthews and Mitch Marner now have no-move clauses, and William Nylander has made his 10-team list in the event of a trade. Coach Sheldon Keefe is staying, which is fine, and Treliving had already overpaid David Kämpf, if not by as much as the market might have. Fundamentally, Leafs appeared to be running it back, more or less.

Treliving sees the Matthews and Nylander contracts as his major task, and how he adjusts the mix around the core is the question. And on July 1, as free agency opened, the first big move was … Ryan Reaves. Ah. And a flyer on 30-year-old defenceman John Klingberg.

Look, free agency isn’t closed. Trades remain possible. There’s lots of time. Yes, the Leafs watched Ryan O’Reilly, Michael Bunting, Luke Schenn, Noel Acciari, and Justin Holl leave. Yes, there are many spots to fill, and they will be filled. This isn’t the Leafs roster that will open camp in the fall.

But what was Toronto’s big problem against Florida? They lacked the highest level of competitive toughness from their stars, and they didn’t score enough goals. They scored 14 goals in those final seven playoff games, and went 2-5. Sam Bennett and Radko Gudas smashed them around, and Sergei Bobrovsky goalied them at least once, and Toronto’s stars went quiet in their biggest moments, again.

So, uh, Reaves? Reaves is a great talker, a great fighter, a big presence, and he will be beloved in Toronto, where anybody who throws a hit or a punch turns Hogtown’s suit-wearing patrons into a mob in a high school parking lot when somebody screams, “Fight!”

But a three-year deal at $1.35 million (U.S.) doesn’t seem like a good sign. It’s not a ton of money. It’s not the worst. Maybe Reaves makes Matthews and Marner and Nylander play a little bigger. When the Florida Panthers decided to play prison rules in Game 2 of that second-round playoff series, it took the Leafs a fair bit of time to adjust. Reaves is the kind of guy who could legitimately make someone feel braver.

There are at least two problems with that theory. One, it’s bunk. Connor McDavid got roughed up all year as Milan Lucic sat on the bench, or buffaloed around like a bank vault on skates. Once upon a time, Matt Cooke ended Marc Savard’s career when Savard played on one of the toughest Bruins teams of all freaking time: Lucic, Zdeno Chara, Shawn Thornton, and more.

Two, you need guys who can play. Do you remember who was the big mean brother on this most recent Leafs team? Wayne Simmonds can fight with just about anybody, but he wasn’t on the ice when Bennett and Gudas and company were wallpapering Leafs, because Simmons wasn’t a good enough player. Winning a fight on a loading dock doesn’t have the same cachet.

The Leafs also had Schenn, who could fight, but he is gone to the Nashville Predators on a three-year deal at $2.75 million. At age 33, after a long and winding road, that’s a well-earned payday for a terrific guy.

But as rich as the Schenn deal is, would you rather pay a 36-year-old Ryan Reaves $1.3-million for three years to play eight minutes and fight once in a while, or pay Schenn twice as much to be a calm, puck-moving defenceman who can play with Morgan Rielly, at least for now?

That decision isn’t available now. But Reeves versus, say, the 35-year-old Lucic — who went back to Boston on a one-year deal — is a sideshow, and little more. Reaves is an admirable tough guy, but the problem is he can’t really play.

So what next? The Leafs need a few forwards and could use a real upgrade at the back of their defence, or maybe up top. And of all the lessons of the Dubas years, one that endures is that every dollar needs to be carefully spent, because your core costs a ton and some of them are likely to get raises, soon enough. or in Nylander’s case, if the gap can’t be bridged and him walking to free agency isn’t appealing, maybe one of those 10 teams would still work for a trade.
 
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Fischer, Suter, Fjallby

A few interesting players around
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That means the Leafs will have zero interest. Would have cost $9 ish million to keep ROR, Schenn, and Acciari, but instead they decided to blow $8 million on Klingon, Reaves, and Kampf.

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This is the biggest issue, the core players once again f*** us, they can’t commit dollars past this year cause they dunno what they want.
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They couldn't sign before noon today no matter what. I think they have the numbers or they would have been traded.
 
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I feel in my gut nylander is going to get traded. I dont think BT is going to mess around as nylander and gudreau have same agent. I dont think BT is going to give him benefit of doubt.

Matthews i think is lesser issue as he is going t9 get signed. We all know it is going to be a shit deal for the leafs and matthews will waste another 3-4 years of his career not winning.

My crystal ball says,
Nylander gets traded for pesce and a 2nd.
Leafs send murray and 2nd somewhere for future considerations
Leafs sign Toews for 2 x $1.5 million
Leafs sign Bertuzzi for 6 x $5.5 million
Leafs sign Domi for 1 x $3.5 million
Leafs extend Sammy 1 × $3 million

Bertuzzi. Matthews. Domi
Knies. Tavares. Marner
Robertson. Toews. Jarnkrok
Lafferry. Kampf. Reaves

Rielly. Pesce
Brodie. Klingberg
Mccabe. Lilly
Gio. Timmins

Sammy
Woll

I feel in my gut nylander is going to get traded. I dont think BT is going to mess around as nylander and gudreau have same agent. I dont think BT is going to give him benefit of doubt.

Matthews i think is lesser issue as he is going t9 get signed. We all know it is going to be a shit deal for the leafs and matthews will waste another 3-4 years of his career not winning.

My crystal ball says,
Nylander gets traded for pesce and a 2nd.
Leafs send murray and 2nd somewhere for future considerations
Leafs sign Toews for 2 x $1.5 million
Leafs sign Bertuzzi for 6 x $5.5 million
Leafs sign Domi for 1 x $3.5 million
Leafs extend Sammy 1 × $3 million

Bertuzzi. Matthews. Domi
Knies. Tavares. Marner
Robertson. Toews. Jarnkrok
Lafferry. Kampf. Reaves

Rielly. Pesce
Brodie. Klingberg
Mccabe. Lilly
Gio. Timmins

Sammy
Woll
 
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Brad Treliving on his next priorities after signing John Klingberg and Ryan Reaves: "Depth scoring is a situation we want to address... We had some goals walk out the door today"

On day one of unrestricted free agency, Brad Treliving discussed the additions of Ryan Reaves and John Klingberg and the areas of the roster he wants to address as the offseason continues. What are you getting in Ryan Reaves? Treliving: I remember Billy Guerin mentioned a while back — when he...
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A lot of your UFAs move on from the team. To what extent was that disappointing?

Treliving: There are some good players. A lot of my focus, since coming here, has been working on our own players. There have been some good players.

I said when I was introduced that I thought Kyle Dubas did a really good job, especially at the deadline, of augmenting the team. For the most part, we tried. The price has got to fit.

I wish those players all the very best. It is a puzzle to put together. There were certain levels that we could go to, notwithstanding some of the other business we have to do. Unfortunately, there are some players we would love to have here, but good for them in getting the deals we got. We just couldn’t make a business deal.

How surprised are you by how some of those situations played out throughout the day?

Treliving: I wouldn’t say it is really unexpected, especially for our guys. Probably in the last day or so, we had a pretty good idea, especially with the guys that were here last year that signed elsewhere, that we weren’t going to be able to make it work.

We have some business to take care of throughout the summer and we wanted to make sure we are being prudent in terms of leaving ourselves some room moving forward. Term was an important thing for us in this free agency. I don’t know if there was anything that was overly surprising.

Where do you go now in terms of next moves? Do you turn to the trade market?

Treliving: We are looking at everything. I know the first few hours of July 1st get all of the attention, but we have all summer to build our team. We will continue to do it. We have some depth things that we have to look at later this afternoon and this evening into tomorrow.

We continue to look at ways to make ourselves better. It is a puzzle. You are working with X amount of cap dollars. We will explore all avenues, whether it be through continuing to look at the free-agent market, looking at the trade market, or continuing to look at any way we can improve the team.

What are the priorities you want to address positionally?

Treliving: We continue to look at depth on the blue line, but we also look up front. To me, depth scoring is a situation that we want to address.

There are two ways to address it. I still think there are some people in the organization that can push from below. Certainly, to the earlier question of whether it is through free agency or the trade market, it is an area we want to try to become deeper.

We had some goals walk out the door here today. Definitely, goal scoring is something we want to continue address not only today but throughout the summer.
 
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