New GM, New Trades and Signings Thread

[Fogelhund]

I’d assume the acquisition cost is low. I’m also a Woll believer.

I'm in the Woll camp too.. have been for a year. Suggested he was someone to watch last offseason, with a chance of being our starter by the end of the year.

I don't think the cost for Hart will be reasonable.

 

[WTFMAN99]

The challenge with obtaining Lindholm, (assuming it's something like Marner for Lindholm + Weegar), is that then you've got Lindholm, Matthews, Nylander and Liljegren all seeking extensions at the same time. Could it be done... maybe... I've got $9.9 million left in cap space on my roster, with needing to sign one legitimate top six winger. Is it possible to get someone to sign a one year deal, if you overpay?

Could try Kane or Patches if you're feeling like gambling.

Domi to a much lesser extent

 

[Fogelhund]

Could try Kane or Patches if you're feeling like gambling.

Domi to a much lesser extent

Domi... yuck... I just don't get it... why? To me, he's decidedly mediocre, defensively inept, and not a physical presence... sure, he can much it up in scrums, and throws the odd sucker punch, but he isn't a physical, wear down the D guy... and his offense is just... OK.

Tarasenko is a UFA. Bertuzzi?

 

[Phion Keneuf]

There’s no way lol

 

[Gabriel426]

There’s no way lol

Vladar starting for the Leafs or Flames.

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[TMLAM34]

Button mentioned Calgary is desperate for a right winger.

I think Nylander to Calgary makes a lot of sense. I don’t see Treliving trading either Matthews or Marner and Tavares isn’t going anywhere either.

Something around this I think would have both teams interested.

To Toronto: Dillon Dube + Noah Hanifin
To Calgary: William Nylander

 

[Phion Keneuf]

Vladar starting for the Leafs or Flames.

Assumed he meant Leafs based on that sentence.

But if he meant Flames, I wouldn’t be surprised.

 

[Americanadian]

I'm in the Woll camp too.. have been for a year. Suggested he was someone to watch last offseason, with a chance of being our starter by the end of the year.

I don't think the cost for Hart will be reasonable.

I meant acquisition cost on Vladar. I imagine it’s similar to Hill last off season.

 

[showtime8]

The challenge with obtaining Lindholm, (assuming it's something like Marner for Lindholm + Weegar), is that then you've got Lindholm, Matthews, Nylander and Liljegren all seeking extensions at the same time. Could it be done... maybe... I've got $9.9 million left in cap space on my roster, with needing to sign one legitimate top six winger. Is it possible to get someone to sign a one year deal, if you overpay?

I think you can bide some time with some salary knowing that Tavares isn't going to get the same ticket he got when he signed as a UFA.

A 34 year old Tavares might only be getting a max of 5mill a year (depending on salary cap increase, production, etc.) and that's going to save you another 6mill.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Domi... yuck... I just don't get it... why? To me, he's decidedly mediocre, defensively inept, and not a physical presence... sure, he can much it up in scrums, and throws the odd sucker punch, but he isn't a physical, wear down the D guy... and his offense is just... OK.

Tarasenko is a UFA. Bertuzzi?

I think Bertuzzi is gonna pull 4-5 year term

Tarasenko, there is a chance, I figure he's a 1-3 year guy, depending on the offers he gets. His shoulder wouldn't let me go beyond 1 year.

 

[GoLeafsGo96]

Button mentioned Calgary is desperate for a right winger.

I think Nylander to Calgary makes a lot of sense. I don’t see Treliving trading either Matthews or Marner and Tavares isn’t going anywhere either.

Something around this I think would have both teams interested.

To Toronto: Dillon Dube + Noah Hanifin
To Calgary: William Nylander

Comes down to if you think Hanifin can be a matchup LD for them for the next 5+ years.

The unique thing about having Rielly is that hes in the top four but not going to play against top competition. Which means the other top four LD has to play the matchups, which is why they moved on from Sandin. Its not that he couldn't be a top four guy, its just that the specific type of T4 minutes they would even be able to consider putting him in were spoken for already.

Hanifin is probably better than Rielly in the matchup role, but I wonder if there is another player who can fit that role better than Hanifin long-term.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

A move for Hart certainly feels like an obvious first move that a GM makes to put his stamp on a team. Of we could do it without moving Woll in the deal I'd be pretty interested.

I'd move Woll.

I think a Hart/Samsonov tandem would be very solid.

 

[Knies iT]

Button mentioned Calgary is desperate for a right winger.

I think Nylander to Calgary makes a lot of sense. I don’t see Treliving trading either Matthews or Marner and Tavares isn’t going anywhere either.

Something around this I think would have both teams interested.

To Toronto: Dillon Dube + Noah Hanifin
To Calgary: William Nylander

I’ve thought about that exact deal. Problem with trading Nylander is that he’s performed better in the playoffs, but likely has lower league wide value than Marner. Nylander’s changed as a player but there were rumours a couple off-seasons ago that GMs value him less than fans’ perceive his value.

I just don’t see Tree coming in and trading Marner in his first off-season. You’d probably pull more value and more overall cap savings but I don’t think it happens.

You probably lose any Nylander deal so you need a U28 #2/3 D coming back to make the team better long-term. I like Hanifin.

 

[613Leafer]

Goalie carousel last offseason included duds like Husso, Comrie, Murray, Talbot, Campbell, etc, as well as guys who worked out like Samsanov, Georgiev, Gustavssen, and to a lesser extent Vanacek (he was serviceable, but not what I would call a solid starter).

With Samsanov coming off a good year and an RFA under our control, plus Woll coming off two really solid years and him gaining waiver rights next year, I just don't see why we'd jump back into the goalie carousel when there's more than a decent chance that the guy we acquire plays like garbage (including Hart).

Unless we're making a big move for a bona fide top 5ish goalie like Saros or Hellebuyck, I don't see why we would touch the goaltending (other than trading or buying out Murray).

 

[3blizzard4]

I think he is talking about starting goalie for the Flames.

 

[Fogelhund]

Comes down to if you think Hanifin can be a matchup LD for them for the next 5+ years.

The unique thing about having Rielly is that hes in the top four but not going to play against top competition. Which means the other top four LD has to play the matchups, which is why they moved on from Sandin. Its not that he couldn't be a top four guy, its just that the specific type of T4 minutes they would even be able to consider putting him in were spoken for already.

Hanifin is probably better than Rielly in the matchup role, but I wonder if there is another player who can fit that role better than Hanifin long-term.

I don't see anyone who fits that bill as a UFA. Interesting guys names... Pelech, Sanheim.. are typically on top shutdown LD lists... but then again, so is Brodie. But then... we could also get the key matchup guy to be a RD too...


Move over, Rod Langway: Canes’ Jaccob Slavin is NHL’s No. 1 Shutdown Defenseman

Rank Player Pos Age Team Total Denials Carry Denial DZ Deflect Turnover DZ Pass Int Iso xGA
1 Jaccob Slavin LD 28 CAR 6 9 3 12 -13.3%
2 Aaron Ekblad RD 26 FLA 12 1 91 57 -12.6%
3 Charlie McAvoy RD 24 BOS 9 8 96 43 -12.2%
4 Jonas Brodin LD 29 MIN 37 22 18 18 -11.6%
5 Travis Sanheim LD 26 PHI 3 18 23 28 -6.2%
6 Colton Parayko RD 29 STL 4 30 16 22 -4.4%
7 Alex Pietrangelo RD 32 VGK 17 36 27 8 +2.4%
8 MacKenzie Weegar RD 28 CGY 7 5 20 10 -1.4%
9 Damon Severson RD 28 NJD 5 2 17 3 +0.8%
10 Devon Toews LD 28 COL 86 97 14 14 -3.7%
11 Darnell Nurse LD 27 EDM 32 21 32 127 -6.5%
12 Brandon Carlo RD 28 BOS 54 53 31 20 -5.1%
13 Josh Morrissey LD 27 WPG 20 23 24 100 -5.3%
14 Ryan Graves LD 27 NJD 29 26 21 34 -4.5%
15 Noah Hanifin LD 25 CGY 12 2 19 106 -3.2%
16 Jonas Sieganthaler LD 25 NJD 52 16 6 74 -15.1%
17 TJ Brodie LD 32 TOR 17 17 39 52 -8.8%
18 Mattias Samuelsson LD 22 BUF 23 10 12 37 -5.2%
19 Vladislav Gavrikov LD 26 CBJ 34 83 2 65 +1.7%
20 Adam Larsson RD 29 SEA 10 19 29 77 -0.5%

Ranking the NHL’s best shutdown defensemen

In an era where scoring is booming, elite shutdown defenders are worth their weight in gold. Who are the NHL's best?

theathletic.com

Ranked by RAPM, top 20.. article from the end of the 21/22 season

1. Brodin
2. McAvoy
3. Tanev
4. McDonagh
5. Heiskanen
6. Slavin
7. Grezelcyk -> They note his performance in the playoffs drops significantly
8. Mikey Anderson
9. K'Andre Miller
10. Carlo
11. Jensen
12. Cernak
13. Lindgren
14. Lindell
15. Ekblad
16. Makar
17. Pelech
18. Toews
19. Zub
20. Brodie

 

[thusk]

Goalie carousel last offseason included duds like Husso, Comrie, Murray, Talbot, Campbell, etc, as well as guys who worked out like Samsanov, Georgiev, Gustavssen, and to a lesser extent Vanacek (he was serviceable, but not what I would call a solid starter).

With Samsanov coming off a good year and an RFA under our control, plus Woll coming off two really solid years and him gaining waiver rights next year, I just don't see why we'd jump back into the goalie carousel when there's more than a decent chance that the guy we acquire plays like garbage (including Hart).

Unless we're making a big move for a bona fide top 5ish goalie like Saros or Hellebuyck, I don't see why we would touch the goaltending (other than trading or buying out Murray).

Its just so important a goalie come playoff

Only one conference finalist didn't had his goalie in top 5 sv% ( oetinger)

Last year 3 of best 6 was conference finalist

Same in 2020 and the 2 finalist probably had the 2 best goalie of playoff

Samsonov was not good at all in playoff except 1 game where he was excellent... he gave up 1 weak goal every game he played except 1. If you want to win in playoff, it can happen every game!!!

Woll still a young goalie who still have everything to prove

Hellebuyck, Gibson, Hart 3 top 15 goalie in NHL available at the same time, if leafs just watching the parade, they're a huge possibility than leafs come back next summer in research again of a new goaltender and all the big name will be off the table

 

[WTFMAN99]

I don't see anyone who fits that bill as a UFA. Interesting guys names... Pelech, Sanheim.. are typically on top shutdown LD lists... but then again, so is Brodie. But then... we could also get the key matchup guy to be a RD too...


Move over, Rod Langway: Canes’ Jaccob Slavin is NHL’s No. 1 Shutdown Defenseman

Rank Player Pos Age Team Total Denials Carry Denial DZ Deflect Turnover DZ Pass Int Iso xGA
1 Jaccob Slavin LD 28 CAR 6 9 3 12 -13.3%
2 Aaron Ekblad RD 26 FLA 12 1 91 57 -12.6%
3 Charlie McAvoy RD 24 BOS 9 8 96 43 -12.2%
4 Jonas Brodin LD 29 MIN 37 22 18 18 -11.6%
5 Travis Sanheim LD 26 PHI 3 18 23 28 -6.2%
6 Colton Parayko RD 29 STL 4 30 16 22 -4.4%
7 Alex Pietrangelo RD 32 VGK 17 36 27 8 +2.4%
8 MacKenzie Weegar RD 28 CGY 7 5 20 10 -1.4%
9 Damon Severson RD 28 NJD 5 2 17 3 +0.8%
10 Devon Toews LD 28 COL 86 97 14 14 -3.7%
11 Darnell Nurse LD 27 EDM 32 21 32 127 -6.5%
12 Brandon Carlo RD 28 BOS 54 53 31 20 -5.1%
13 Josh Morrissey LD 27 WPG 20 23 24 100 -5.3%
14 Ryan Graves LD 27 NJD 29 26 21 34 -4.5%
15 Noah Hanifin LD 25 CGY 12 2 19 106 -3.2%
16 Jonas Sieganthaler LD 25 NJD 52 16 6 74 -15.1%
17 TJ Brodie LD 32 TOR 17 17 39 52 -8.8%
18 Mattias Samuelsson LD 22 BUF 23 10 12 37 -5.2%
19 Vladislav Gavrikov LD 26 CBJ 34 83 2 65 +1.7%
20 Adam Larsson RD 29 SEA 10 19 29 77 -0.5%

Ranking the NHL’s best shutdown defensemen

In an era where scoring is booming, elite shutdown defenders are worth their weight in gold. Who are the NHL's best?

theathletic.com

Ranked by RAPM, top 20.. article from the end of the 21/22 season

1. Brodin
2. McAvoy
3. Tanev
4. McDonagh
5. Heiskanen
6. Slavin
7. Grezelcyk -> They note his performance in the playoffs drops significantly
8. Mikey Anderson
9. K'Andre Miller
10. Carlo
11. Jensen
12. Cernak
13. Lindgren
14. Lindell
15. Ekblad
16. Makar
17. Pelech
18. Toews
19. Zub
20. Brodie

Boston is in cap trouble, you might have a shot at Carlo.

Sanheim and Lindgren could also be available for various reasons (cap / rebuilding)

 

[613Leafer]

Its just so important a goalie come playoff

Only one conference finalist didn't had his goalie in top 5 sv% ( oetinger)

Last year 3 of best 6 was conference finalist

Same in 2020 and the 2 finalist probably had the 2 best goalie of playoff

Samsonov was not good at all in playoff except 1 game where he was excellent... he gave up 1 weak goal every game he played except 1. If you want to win in playoff, it can happen every game!!!

Woll still a young goalie who still have everything to prove

Hellebuyck, Gibson, Hart 3 top 15 goalie in NHL available at the same time, if leafs just watching the parade, they're a huge possibility than leafs come back next summer in research again of a new goaltender and all the big name will be off the table

Why are you assuming Hart and Gibson will be upgrades? Hart has had a sub 0.910 save % for three straight years (and his expected goals stats aren't putting him in the top 10 either), and Gibson has had even worse stats.

That's the entire point of my post - why switch from Samsanov to another goalie, unless it's a Hellebuyck/Saros type of bona fide proven top starter? Hart and Gibson are just as big a question mark as Samsanov, except we'd have to trade assets to get them (and in Gibson's case, take on a big risky long contract)

 

[Duffman955]

I'm on the boat of either spending close to nothing on a goalie, and bargain bin hunting,

or go super big and get a top5 guy.

 

[trellaine201]

Carter Hart please.

 

[weems]

One area people brought up alot in the playoffs was our defense and the more games we played, the more people kept saying this isn't a championship level blueline.

As well as Rielly-Schenn played in the playoffs, they were getting mostly good zone starts usage.

Both Brodie and Giordano looked slow for portions of the playoffs.

Liljegren definitely needs to be inserted into our lineup and should get looks in the top 4 in the regular season. It's way too early to get very negative on a defensemen like him when his upside is still very good and he has the ability to impact the game on both ends.

I think you can make a easy argument that we could badly use another elite or way above average defensemen who can skate, move the puck, defend and that would give us a potential great top 4 and allow us to have good depth on the 3rd pairing.

 

[Rude Dog]

I need something like this

Until you see the return and wish you hadnt.

Wouldnt read into Brad reaching out to teams too much. One if the insiders said he is one of the most active gms reaching out to other gms to get a pulse of what is happening. So expect many more leafs have reached out comments on a lot if players

 

[Gabriel426]

Assumed he meant Leafs based on that sentence.

But if he meant Flames, I wouldn’t be surprised.

If it is the Leafs, I doubt it unless Dubas trade 2nd rounder for Sammy