New GM, New Trades and Signings Thread

[thusk]

What was the records of those teams when their opponent scored 2 goals? Because Toronto won 0 games in round 2 where the opposition scored 2 goals or more?

Hell, 3 of the 5 games Toronto held Florida to 2 goals or less in regularion, and they managed to still lose 2 of those 3 games.

You keep listing teams, but even the most extreme examples of defensive minded squads did not go through an entire series in which they produced 2 goals or less in every single game in the series en route to winning.

It's simply not a recipe for success, and I have no idea why on earth anyone in their right mind would even begin to attempt to defend a core that has repeatedly failed to put the puck in the net time and time again when the series is on the line.

This is what happens when you structure your cap around a core of players that can't get the job done, a team full of holes that you can't properly address.

I understand all this... but when your goalie suck, you only have 2 choice... still playing the same way and allowed probably 3-4-5 goal every game or do whatever you can to help your goalie by reducing as much of possible every risk you can take... so maybe didn't you leave defensive zone as fast to dont be caught out of position, dont get d involve in offensive game or whatever...

Im giving you 1 exemple with McCabe... game 1. Maybe the 1st time he tried to join the rush to create a 4v3... play missed the puck go in the other side and Samsonov allowed a bad goal because he lost his footing and was gm 1 game winning goal... do you think next time he will have a chance to join the rush, he will do it or will hesitate? He will hesitate and probably play safe and will affect scoring opportunity for sure... i think the only time i really remembered he joined the rush again was game 5 in OT. Its an exemple with one player, repeat this with everyone... result no body playing the same way and every body starting to hesitate on every play coming with a kind of risk. When you worked pretty hard to give yourself 2 goal lead and see your goalie completly broke it with 2 weak goal....how do you think player reacted?


Its how bad or good goaltending can affect offensivly a team... if you having both a the same time, one team play with full confidence and not affraidgand the second play with hesitation in his game.. The fact the team didn't score as much doesn't mean it was foward fault... i think its part of the game some people just cant understand.

They are no player with higher impact than goaltender. If youre goalie dont get the job done, the way you playing will be affect

 

[CelticDruid]

tavares is only owed 16,810,000 in real dollars after after july 1 ....

I’ll write him a cheque.

 

[Brobust]

Saw a thread on twitter basically saying these 7 seasons of futility is on the rest of the team and not of the big 4 and I tend to agree.

The conclusion, which I also agree with, is that the window is likely closed. It's time to reset and build around 34 and 16. I am all for a 2-3 year retool like the LA kings.

 

[Chief Leaf]

Even if he would waive losing the deal is one thing, losing him for nothing is quite another. There's two main approaches
A- Offset the value - trade him at full cap but with less coming back
B- Offset the contract- trade him at the right cap hit (whether through retention or offsetting cap hit) with fullish coming back

The problem with both is that at those cap numbers the market is going to be limited, quite likely to the point where it further reduces value, maybe forcing to offset both. But still not be at the point of giving him away.

Maybe ask him to be an assistant coach or another GM for the making as some type of "put name title assistant GM in the making here<"

However, I do feel he still wants to play on the white ice for now and feels he can still contribute. He can, but just the thought of eliminating his cap hit for him to retire only to be handed a promising involvement in becoming a GM someday may hit his taste buds.

Obviously, money is also a concern so there has to almost be a buyout and rehire.

Yup seems like a disney movie lol

 

[rumman]

This legit made me laugh.

Thanks for that.

Cheers.

Your welcome……..

 

[TheDoldrums]

 

[Gabriel426]

Does Treliving bring Lucic on with a 1x1 deal?

Our new Simmonds

It would really be a F U move and a huge message if Treliving trade AM and MM to BJs for Johnny Hockey, Laine, Peeke and picks.

 

[57 Years No Cup]

And Treviling, Shanahan, and the board continue to sit on their hands.

 

[Gabriel426]

Saw a thread on twitter basically saying these 7 seasons of futility is on the rest of the team and not of the big 4 and I tend to agree.

The conclusion, which I also agree with, is that the window is likely closed. It's time to reset and build around 34 and 16. I am all for a 2-3 year retool like the LA kings.

I think it is on the top 3 more than anything.

As for rebuild. Our opening roster this coming season will at most feature 9 players from this past season opening night, 4 forwards, 4 Dman and 1 goalie. And 6-7players from two seasons ago depending if you count Lilly.

I think we had more returning players than that during the tank year.

Point is, the top 3 are the reason there is a rotating roster of players. We can rebuild whatever we want but if AM and MM can’t carry the team in playoffs, it doesn’t matter who makes up the rest of the team. Unless AM and MM are no longer the top guys of the Leafs and become complementary players or play that role, but they can’t get paid top dollars if that the case.

 

[sxvnert]

Wilson is an obvious but costly add, especially @ 50% retained (2,583,333). No one will ever look at Matthews or Marner ever again.

Wilson Matthews Marner
Rielly Schenn

I would gladly pay a 1st + prospect to make it happen pending a long term deal at 4-5m.

 

[Gabriel426]

Wilson is an obvious but costly add, especially @ 50% retained (2,583,333). No one will ever look at Matthews or Marner ever again.

Wilson Matthews Marner
Rielly Schenn

I would gladly pay a 1st + prospect to make it happen pending a long term deal at 4-5m.

Or maybe send MM the other way for Kuz and Wilson. Caps goal is to get Ovie that record. MM can make life very easy for Ovie.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Or maybe send MM the other way for Kuz and Wilson. Caps goal is to get Ovie that record. MM can make life very easy for Ovie.

That + once Marner feeds him 1.5 seasons of PP goals they can move him at 50% at a profit.

 

[Albz]

Or maybe send MM the other way for Kuz and Wilson. Caps goal is to get Ovie that record. MM can make life very easy for Ovie.

This has to be a joke? Lol

 

[TMLAM34]

Calling it now, Treliving will make a deal with the Flyers for Sanheim.

 

[geo25]

Wilson is an obvious but costly add, especially @ 50% retained (2,583,333). No one will ever look at Matthews or Marner ever again.

Wilson Matthews Marner
Rielly Schenn

I would gladly pay a 1st + prospect to make it happen pending a long term deal at 4-5m.

Worth every dime...

 

[Dreakmur]

Calling it now, Treliving will make a deal with the Flyers for Sanheim.

He’d certainly help out on our blue line, though he’s not exactly the type of player we need.

 

[sxvnert]

2023 1st (WASH) (8th overall)
Tom Wilson (1yr/2,583,333 - 50% retained)
Evgeny Kuznetsov (2yr/$3,900,000 - 50% retained)
for
William Nylander (1yr/$6,962,366)
2023 1st (BOS) or 2024 1st (TOR) (top 10 protected)
Matt Murray ($4,687,500)

 

[Jozay]

2023 1st (WASH) (8th overall)
Tom Wilson (1yr/2,583,333 - 50% retained)
Evgeny Kuznetsov (2yr/$3,900,000 - 50% retained)
for
William Nylander (1yr/$6,962,366)
2023 1st (BOS) or 2024 1st (TOR) (top 10 protected)
Matt Murray ($4,687,500)

This trade makes such little sense im actually taken aback

 

[WillNy29]

this is the guy people want? he scores less than Nylander and wants 9m

 

[57 Years No Cup]

2023 1st (WASH) (8th overall)
Tom Wilson (1yr/2,583,333 - 50% retained)
Evgeny Kuznetsov (2yr/$3,900,000 - 50% retained)
for
William Nylander (1yr/$6,962,366)
2023 1st (BOS) or 2024 1st (TOR) (top 10 protected)
Matt Murray ($4,687,500)

 

[Rielly4]

I really want Wilson but not interested in trading Willy for him. Maybe something around our 1st round pick in 2024 and Niemela?

We would have to be interested in extending him to make sucha deal.

 

[rumman]

Da plane boss da plane………..

I really want Wilson but not interested in trading Willy for him. Maybe something around our 1st round pick in 2024 and Niemela?

We would have to be interested in extending him to make sucha deal.

I love Wilson, but his best before due date is coming up, when it’s up he’s going to be another anchor imo. Crouse or another younger guy is what I’d be aiming for if I were Tree……..

 

[horner]

Trent Fredrick 6' 3" 200 lbs physical PF Will stand up for teamates
17 g 31 pts
Former 1st rd pk
is a UFA the Bruins arnt qualifying him due to cap issues .
Sign him 1.8 mil per yr * 2

 

[Mess]

I really want Wilson but not interested in trading Willy for him. Maybe something around our 1st round pick in 2024 and Niemela?

We would have to be interested in extending him to make sucha deal.

Here is the problem as I see it with your suggeston.

Washington just traded the Leafs a 1st round pick for Rasmus Sandin and now essentially you're saying will give you a 1st back and toss in a prospect Niemela and you send us Wilson instead.

For this to really to have worked as you suggest, the original deal should have been Tom Wilson for Sandin and Niemela at the trade deadline. because that is really the trade when combined.

 

[horner]

Da plane boss da plane………..


I love Wilson, but his best before due date is coming up, when it’s up he’s going to be another anchor imo. Crouse or another younger guy is what I’d be aiming for if I were Tree……..

If we want Wilson they will ask for Nylander