New Arenas in the KHL-VHL-MHL Part II

Sucro

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The Vice President of Rosneft Mikhail Leontyev claimed that the new arena of CSKA will have a capacity of 20k and that no dates for construction have been set yet.
 

ult

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VTB Arena.

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ult

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New arena in Krasnoyarsk. 7000 seats. To be completed in 2019.

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hansomreiste

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May this be a sign of my dreams coming true, namely Krasnoyarsk having a KHL team? What's the purpose of such a big arena if not competing at the highest possible level? This city is awesome and imo deserves a KHL team - people say there is not much interest but come on, it's a Siberian city. Why wouldn't people be interested in KHL level ice hockey when it came to their city which has a population of over 1 million, if I recall correctly? Yenisey FC is dead and gone. Krasnoyarsk needs a strong team to represent the city. Let it be in hockey.

On the arena, nothing needed to say: plans look amazing. Well, I guess everything would look nice in Krasnoyarsk. Chekhov is a smart guy. He loved that city for a reason. Now make it have a KHL team. Make Krasnoyarsk great again.
 

Yakushev72

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New arena in Krasnoyarsk. 7000 seats. To be completed in 2019.

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Very good news! Once cities like Krasnoyarsk begin to tap their potential for promoting hockey and developing hockey players, it can only be a catalyst for hockey growth overall.
 

hansomreiste

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I love Krasnoyarsk and I would like the KHL to have a team there myself, but considering the progresses the KHL has made over the years, IMHO no arenas under 12,000 should be admitted or even constructed.

Only a handful of teams have over 8,000 capacity in East. I don't think 7,000 is bad when your two-times champions Magnitka has the arena capacity of 7,700. Vityaz, Torpedo, CSKA, Severstal, Avtomobilist, Neftekhimik, Lada and Yugra all have smaller arenas. Sibir, Magnitka, Traktor, Amur, Admiral is around 7,500. For a new team, I think 7,000 would do fine at the beginning. If interest is good enough, then maybe they can expand it to accommodate more people. However, I am not even sure if they have intent to host a KHL team.
 

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Few more renders. But don't pay too much attention to the distance between the rink and stands. It is essentially the same project as in Khabarovsk. But with a facelift.

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Khabarovsk:

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Kunlun Red Star arena will seat 14000 people in hockey configuration. 18 000 seats are in basketball one. Looking at it it really isn't suited for hockey.

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Acallabeth

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I know what they claimed. I just don't buy it. :D
There's no way they complete it just before the Universiade. After the Krestovskiy fiasco and the Vostochniy cosmodrome builders being punished, I don't think the new arena deadlines will be screwed up so much.

I love Krasnoyarsk and I would like the KHL to have a team there myself, but considering the progresses the KHL has made over the years, IMHO no arenas under 12,000 should be admitted or even constructed.
12k is an ambitious number. Dynamo Minsk was the only club ever to have 12k+ attendance over a season, so it's a big question whether it's reasonable to build such a large estadio only for it to be half-used and become outdated when the fanbase finally grows enough for the arena to be regularly filled. As for now, if the city can regularly fill 7k, it will already be more than the KHL average.
Then again, I remember Shalayev proclaming that 9k+ arenas will be a requirement for any new team to join the K, with the number being 12k+ for millionaire cities. I wish that at least the 9,000 treshhold was kept.
 

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At the moment of the proposal of this project there weren't. I don't know how it is now. I haven't heard about any other projects like this.
 

mkev400

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Is there any other similar projects in the world that have two different sport arenas as the same building ?

There is one to my knowledge. TD Place in Ottawa (10,000 seats) is a fully fledged arena (The CHL's Ottawa 67's play there) which was built underneath the grandstand of TD Place Stadium (Formerly Frank Clair Stadium).

It might not be to the same scale as VTB arena but it is the same concept!
 
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hansomreiste

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I can't trust my knowledge of Russian but I think that a new arena has been opened in Yekaterinburg, named after Datsyuk. And it definitely looks cool. Hopefully, this will be a good step to "make Yekaterinburg great again" by producing local talents out of awesome kids.

http://www.khl.ru/news/2016/08/20/315923.html

By the way, is this where Avtomobilist will play or what? Such a nice arena wouldn't go unnoticed here and I'm sure someone else wrote about it here before... Is this new Yekaterinburg arena or just a training ground?
 

Dueling Banjos

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Modern training ground for kids is what i got out of that article. Sloppy Google translate:

''The stage for the inauguration of "Datsyuk Arena" built on the street near the entrance to the new hockey palace. Ice fields such level of comfort for children, confessed in his speech, two-time Olympic champion Alexander Yakushev, Russia is no longer anywhere.
- This is a true temple of hockey. We walked around the arena, and were impressed. Such conditions, as here, there is no longer any one scene in Russia. Teaching classes, dryers - perfect conditions for children. In such circumstances they should grow up like mushrooms.''

Sound like a great move for Yekaterinburg/Russian hockey.
 

vorky

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I can't trust my knowledge of Russian but I think that a new arena has been opened in Yekaterinburg, named after Datsyuk. And it definitely looks cool. Hopefully, this will be a good step to "make Yekaterinburg great again" by producing local talents out of awesome kids.

http://www.khl.ru/news/2016/08/20/315923.html

By the way, is this where Avtomobilist will play or what? Such a nice arena wouldn't go unnoticed here and I'm sure someone else wrote about it here before... Is this new Yekaterinburg arena or just a training ground?

it is Datsyuk private arena. dont know capacity. I guess kids/juniors will train & play there.

Avtomobilist plans to reconstruct or build (dont remember) new arena.

When speaking about new arenas - CSKA/SKA plan to build new arenas for 18-20k seats.
 

mkev400

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When speaking about new arenas - CSKA/SKA plan to build new arenas for 18-20k seats.

Yeah I dont get the move by SKA to built a new arena. The Ice Palace is only 16 years so why the need for a new one in the near future? Are they at sellout capacity for every game and are simply outgrowing the Ice Palace? Cause this could be the only explanation for such a move.
 

hansomreiste

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it is Datsyuk private arena. dont know capacity. I guess kids/juniors will train & play there.

Avtomobilist plans to reconstruct or build (dont remember) new arena.

When speaking about new arenas - CSKA/SKA plan to build new arenas for 18-20k seats.

Really?! SKA has a big potential yet as mkev400 put it, I don't think they need anything bigger at the moment. Moreover, Russian economy and preparations for World Cup 2018 will make everything harder for anyone willing to build a new arena. And about CSKA... What do they think when they can't even fill an arena with around 5K seats?
 

vorky

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IIHF attendance figures for last season:
SKA St. Petersburg 11,789
94.31%

hansomreiste
Dinamo Minsk was not able to sell out old arena as well, when new big arena cames, it was almost sold out for every game. You have to know that CSKA rink is too old, not attractive for fans.
 

Acallabeth

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Dinamo Minsk was not able to sell out old arena as well, when new big arena cames, it was almost sold out for every game. You have to know that CSKA rink is too old, not attractive for fans.
There should be no excuses for a top team that was the biggest visiting draw in the entire league, especially when it's located in Moscow. CSKA can't even fill a small arena until proven otherwise, let alone some 18,000 monster. Hell, football CSKA had ~11500 average attendance last season.
 

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