New Accusations Edmonton Oilers owner Daryl Katz paid for sex with a teenager.

[TaLoN]

I'm not defending him from you saying he is disgusting. He's proven that before. You aren't breaking new ground, and even those of us debating with you have said we find the man gross.

What I am saying is that you have taken a pretty huge leap from "this dude sent a creepy text, wtf", where most normal people would be, to "this man was this poor girl's sugar daddy, it's obvious and you won't convince me otherwise even though I have no evidence".

I'm not even the one who made that leap. That was someone yesterday trying to defend the guy, so I just agreed with him and said that's not making him look any better here...

 

[ManofSteel55]

I'm not even the one who made that leap. That was someone yesterday trying to defend the guy, so I just agreed with him and said that's not making him look any better here...

If you agreed, you made the leap. Whether you came up with it on your own or just decided to cling to it doesn't matter.

 

[TaLoN]

If you agreed, you made the leap. Whether you came up with it on your own or just decided to cling to it doesn't matter.

I just said ok, that's not making him look any better. That's not me making the leap, that's me saying he's still disgusting even if that's the case. I don't see a scenario based on what we know where he comes out looking anything other than disgusting at this point.

 

[ManofSteel55]

I just said ok, that's not making him look any better. That's not me making the leap, that's me saying he's still disgusting even if that's the case. I don't see a scenario based on what we know where he comes out looking anything other than disgusting at this point.

I have no interest in whether he looks disgusting or not. He does even if this gets proven to be nothing. I just think people are jumping to conclusions with no evidence.

 

[I am toxic]

53 year old man.

Billionaire.

$75,000.

Secret payment(s).

17 year girl who claims to have been trafficked for sex.

Leap to sugar daddy:

I mean, if that's the case. If I'm missing something, have at it. Like, does the guy have record of never paying for women to have sex with him? Anyway, let me know, happy to stand corrected and edit my post.

 

[MacMacandBarbie]

say what you will, but Katz has 2 producer credits on IMDB. Its not out of the realm of possibility he was hit up for capital for a movie.

So he would send the funding to the company he has financial interest in that is funding the movie in the first place, and the funding would come from that entity. Not directly from his people to the 17 year old actress he fancies. It screams cover up, and not a very good one.

What is interesting is if the alleged text message exchange is true. If found true, that is pretty damning evidence that the story of the money being linked to a film in any way is a lie.

 

[WeaponOfChoice]

Damn, she came with the receipts.

I guess when you're that rich blowing a regular person yearly wages on sex is NBD.



What gets me is doing it with an underage girl. Like, if youre willing to pay for this kind of stuff you can afford pretty much any girl. They don't even have to be prostitutes', they can just be girls looking for a sugar daddy. Why risk it for a 17 year old.

17's not underage in Canada

 

[WF19]

17's not underage in Canada

Lol what? Yes it is. 18 to be legal.

 

[Uncle Rotter]

Lol what? Yes it is. 18 to be legal.

Age of Consent to Sexual Activity

Department of Justice Canada’s Internet site

www.justice.gc.ca

 

[ManofSteel55]

Lol what? Yes it is. 18 to be legal.

Age of consent is 16. 18 to buy liquor, weed and cigarettes in Alberta, but 16 for the devil's dance.

 

[Washed Up 29YearOld]

He won't have to worry about paying for sex in prison.

 

[Spirits]

Age of consent is 16. 18 to buy liquor, weed and cigarettes in Alberta, but 16 for the devil's dance.

In Canada a 50 something can have sex with a 16 year old and that is legal? I'm from the States and I'm pretty sure age of consent has more to it than just meeting the minimum age.

I don't think a 22 year old can have sex with a 16 year old legally even in Alabama. But I also haven't researched this lol.

 

[CF84]

Age of consent is 16. 18 to buy liquor, weed and cigarettes in Alberta, but 16 for the devil's dance.

You are really dumbing down the age of consent. Here is the exact wording from the Department of Justice in Canada:

Sexual exploitation​

A 16 or 17 year old cannot consent to sexual activity if:

• their sexual partner is in position of trust or authority towards them, for example their teacher or coach
• the young person is dependent on their sexual partner, for example for care or support
• the relationship between the young person and their sexual partner is exploitative

The following factors may be taken into account when determining whether a relationship is exploitative of the young person:

• the young person's age
• the age difference between the young person and their partner
• how the relationship developed (for example, quickly, secretly, or over the internet)
• whether the partner may have controlled or influenced the young person

If Katz gave her money and if they also had sexual relations before or afterwards, he then violated the dependency law in Canada and should rightfully face the consequences for his actions.

 

[ManofSteel55]

You are really dumbing down the age of consent. Here is the exact wording from the Department of Justice in Canada:

Sexual exploitation​

A 16 or 17 year old cannot consent to sexual activity if:

• their sexual partner is in position of trust or authority towards them, for example their teacher or coach
• the young person is dependent on their sexual partner, for example for care or support
• the relationship between the young person and their sexual partner is exploitative

The following factors may be taken into account when determining whether a relationship is exploitative of the young person:

• the young person's age
• the age difference between the young person and their partner
• how the relationship developed (for example, quickly, secretly, or over the internet)
• whether the partner may have controlled or influenced the young person

If Katz gave her money and if they also had sexual relations before or afterwards, he then violated the dependency law in Canada and should rightfully face the consequences for his actions.

Well the girl says they didn't so none of that matters. I'm not going to try to play lawyer though. He's a creep, and if it happened he's even more of a creep. But the evidence is flimsy at best.

He won't have to worry about paying for sex in prison.

It's a civil suit and he isn't even really involved. I know it's probably meant as a joke but the girl would need to do a 180 on what she says happened to think this even gets mentioned again publicly.

 

[CF84]

Well the girl says they didn't so none of that matters. I'm not going to try to play lawyer though. He's a creep, and if it happened he's even more of a creep. But the evidence is flimsy at best.


It's a civil suit and he isn't even really involved. I know it's probably meant as a joke but the girl would need to do a 180 on what she says happened to think this even gets mentioned again publicly.

Which is why I said "if."

The point of my post was about correcting what you had stated about the age of consent in Canada.

 

[EdmFlyersfan]

Katz is involved in an Esptein/Maxwell type of world, very sad to see some support this sicko.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Katz is involved in an Esptein/Maxwell type of world, very sad to see some support this sicko.

Nobody is supporting him. Some are asking for the evidence. Because the "evidence" that is out there is pretty flimsy.

 

[67 others]

So he would send the funding to the company he has financial interest in that is funding the movie in the first place, and the funding would come from that entity. Not directly from his people to the 17 year old actress he fancies. It screams cover up, and not a very good one.

What is interesting is if the alleged text message exchange is true. If found true, that is pretty damning evidence that the story of the money being linked to a film in any way is a lie.

He owns the film company. His people work for the film company.

 

[MacMacandBarbie]

He owns the film company. His people work for the film company.

No, his people work for Katz Group Of Companies. He is not CEO of Silver Pictures, and I can promise you current CEO Hal Sadoff has a lawyer and is distancing himself from having any knowledge of this private payment.

Do you think the other Silver Picture films that have been released were private payments to the lead actress? I am betting they were payments laid out in a contract funded through Silver Pictures’ official account.

 

[ManofSteel55]

No, his people work for Katz Group Of Companies. He is not CEO of Silver Pictures, and I can promise you current CEO Hal Sadoff has a lawyer and is distancing himself from having any knowledge of this private payment.

Do you think the other Silver Picture films that have been released were private payments to the lead actress? I am betting they were payments laid out in a contract funded through Silver Pictures’ official account.

Do you know she was intended to be the actress? Maybe it was her idea. Her pitch? I don't think we know.

Of course it could be sugar daddy stuff or prostitution, but there isn't much evidence here.

 

[MacMacandBarbie]

Nobody is supporting him. Some are asking for the evidence. Because the "evidence" that is out there is pretty flimsy.

The evidence that she herself has presented claiming she was sex trafficked is pretty solid. Those texts between Sage and Katz, if true, indicate a private payment that will be hard to justify was for a movie that never got produced. That’s just the evidence that has been made public, we will see what else comes out at trial.

If the Buttons can prove that Sage’s mom helped launder that payment from Katz, and establish that Katz had communication at any time with the Buttons...yikes.

Do you know she was intended to be the actress? Maybe it was her idea. Her pitch? I don't think we know.

Of course it could be sugar daddy stuff or prostitution, but there isn't much evidence here.

Yeah, she was cast as the lead actress in 2017 and has been in contact with Silver Pictures since before Katz had a financial interest. There’s plenty of sources online for that. Turnbull, his friend, has been cited as a producer on this film. TACKLING ROMEO

 

[ManofSteel55]

The evidence that she herself has presented claiming she was sex trafficked is pretty solid. Those texts between Sage and Katz, if true, indicate a private payment that will be hard to justify was for a movie that never got produced. That’s just the evidence that has been made public, we will see what else comes out at trial.

If the Buttons can prove that Sage’s mom helped launder that payment from Katz, and establish that Katz had communication at any time with the Buttons...yikes.


Yeah, she was cast as the lead actress in 2017 and has been in contact with Silver Pictures since before Katz had a financial interest. There’s plenty of sources online for that. Turnbull, his friend, has been cited as a producer on this film. TACKLING ROMEO

She also claimed no sexual relationship occurred with Katz. So there's that.

 

[Oilslick941611]

So he would send the funding to the company he has financial interest in that is funding the movie in the first place, and the funding would come from that entity. Not directly from his people to the 17 year old actress he fancies. It screams cover up, and not a very good one.

What is interesting is if the alleged text message exchange is true. If found true, that is pretty damning evidence that the story of the money being linked to a film in any way is a lie.

absolutely correct, however right now there is no evidence that any of this is true. Denials by both sides and an even more creepy/disgusting person who being being sued by 7 accusers is the one accusing Katz.

im not ready to condemn Katz based on what's been publicly said and quite frankly the denial from Humphries is more than enough for me to believe nothing happened between them.

You are really dumbing down the age of consent. Here is the exact wording from the Department of Justice in Canada:

Sexual exploitation​

A 16 or 17 year old cannot consent to sexual activity if:

• their sexual partner is in position of trust or authority towards them, for example their teacher or coach
• the young person is dependent on their sexual partner, for example for care or support
• the relationship between the young person and their sexual partner is exploitative

The following factors may be taken into account when determining whether a relationship is exploitative of the young person:

• the young person's age
• the age difference between the young person and their partner
• how the relationship developed (for example, quickly, secretly, or over the internet)
• whether the partner may have controlled or influenced the young person

If Katz gave her money and if they also had sexual relations before or afterwards, he then violated the dependency law in Canada and should rightfully face the consequences for his actions.

right, but Humphries denies a sexual relationship took place. Is everyone just being obtuse and overlooking that part?

 

[MacMacandBarbie]

absolutely correct, however right now there is no evidence that any of this is true. Denials by both sides and an even more creepy/disgusting person who being being sued by 7 accusers is the one accusing Katz.

im not ready to condemn Katz based on what's been publicly said and quite frankly the denial from Humphries is more than enough for me to believe nothing happened between them.


right, but Humphries denies a sexual relationship took place. Is everyone just being obtuse and overlooking that part?

There’s plenty of evidence that there is true, have you not seen the text messages that were released by multiple credible news outlets?

Of course humphries is denying the details around Katz. If the claim is true, she and her mother are complicit of laundering that money and avoiding paying taxes on it. It sucks that she might be guilty of something as well as being the victim. That’s usually how these situations work out, they get messy.

 

[Oilslick941611]

There’s plenty of evidence that there is true, have you not seen the text messages that were released by multiple credible news outlets?

Of course humphries is denying the details around Katz. If the claim is true, she and her mother are complicit of laundering that money and avoiding paying taxes on it. It sucks that she might be guilty of something as well as being the victim. That’s usually how these situations work out, they get messy.

The text messages released by the couple being sued by 7 ballerinas for sex crimes ?

Not credible on their own.