New Accusations Edmonton Oilers owner Daryl Katz paid for sex with a teenager.

[Lempo]

Hey... these all are civil law suits, aren't they? There's allegations of multiple rapes and child sex trafficking, but the police and the prosecutor aren't involved in any way and everything that's taken to the court is nice and settleable, if and when someone wants to settle?

 

[Leafs at Knight]

Wow this last year has been a complete disaster for the north American hockey community. Probably not the last of shit that'll come out either. Just another gross story.

 

[Leafsfan74]

There are creeps literally everywhere. Not sure why everything has to turn into a country thing these days.

Yes, they are everywhere. The measurement of a nation is how they choose to pursue the powerful and wealthy when they abuse others rights, instead of the targeting only the weak, low hanging fruit.

In this regard, Canada has a history of being complicit., especially in Ontario.

 

[Transplanted Caper]

I’d argue that it’s not a sports story but a news story and should be covered by journalists with experiences in such things. And before anyone mentions Rick Westhead, his Background is as an actual news reporter and not a sports reporter. Now, an argument could be made that Sportsnet needs someone like that to handle actual news stories that have a sports angle,

I think NHL Insiders have a completely different set of skills than those needed to report on this sort of stuff.

I mean, yes. A lot of these guys don't have the experience or background to really talk about these issues. That said, it's one thing not to write a 1,000 word piece on it, it's another to ignore it completely. That the latter keeps happening says a lot about media doing what it can to protect the sport.

 

[Voight]

Not much from the NHL insiders on Hockey Canada cover up too

Don't bite the hand that feeds you as they say

 

[Dubi Doo]

I'm pretty sure it's illegal to buy sex from a 17 year old even if they are able to consent to sex.

True, but the charges will be way heavier if she was under the age of consent. I don't view prostitution as a big deal, although the age gap is really f***ing weird and, as an American, I've been conditioned to view 17 years old as under age. So, this situation seems really F'ed up.

 

[Oilslick941611]

If true, anyone who spends money on that organization while he remains owner is endorsing this behavior.

You'll also need to never shop at Rexall/Medcine Shoppe.

 

[Edgelord]

Does anyone know if it was a consensual encounter? Yes its creeptastic to sleep with a 17yr old but if she was a willing partner then its not illegal. However if she was being coerced in any way then that changes it 100%
On 1 side there are young women who are attracted to powerful older men but on the other side young vulnerable women are all too often forced into situations like this.

 

[New User Name]

I don't know if this allegation is true or not but I do know that there are many creeps in Canada. Those with wealth or whom are in positions of power are the worst offenders.

Not just Canada. As far as I know the catholic church has churches in almost every country in the world.

And when it comes to child abuse they're not far from the top of the list.

 

[Kranix]

Didn't the victim's lawyer deny the accusation against Katz?

 

[BHD]

Kane: “I bet you can’t top the stuff I’ve done.”

Katz: “Hold my beer.”

 

[New User Name]

Does anyone know if it was a consensual encounter? Yes its creeptastic to sleep with a 17yr old but if she was a willing partner then its not illegal. However if she was being coerced in any way then that changes it 100%
On 1 side there are young women who are attracted to powerful older men but on the other side young vulnerable women are all too often forced into situations like this.

If it was in the US it was illegal as I think most states age of consent is 18.

If it was in Canada legal age is 16.

Then again paying for sex I think is a crime in most places.

 

[Mr Positive]

It would not be easy to swap in a new owner. It would be a long process and I doubt it even happens. I know it is cynical but it seems that way

 

[emptyNedder]

If it was in the US it was illegal as I think most states age of consent is 18.

If it was in Canada legal age is 16.

Then again paying for sex I think is a crime in most places.

Paying for sex has become much more acceptable. I head a podcast that there are 7,000,000 women registered on Seeking Arrangements--I thought I surely misheard, but that number is quoted by several reputable sources online.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Wtf is going on in Canada right now!?!

Guys, we got the crazy covered in spades down here in the states, you don't have to try and one up us like this.

 

[dem]

This will be swept under the rug like the rest of them..

 

[Edgelord]

If it was in the US it was illegal as I think most states age of consent is 18.

If it was in Canada legal age is 16.

Then again paying for sex I think is a crime in most places.

ohhhhh he paid??? thats different, in a way thats coercion.
Personally, I have no issue with prostitution as long as its done in a safe way for the worker and client( ie like its done in Germany) but a 17yr old is not of age to be a worker.

 

[Leafs87]

That is extremely alarming and sickening.
Really hope these allegations are not true

 

[Dubi Doo]

It's not exactly clear in the OP what seems to be going on in this situation.

7 women are suing a husband and wife for sexual abuse.

That husband and wife are countersuing Daryl Katz and some of the women/their family saying that they were prostitutes.

The lawyer of those 7 women says that the countersuit is basically just BS to try and lay the blame on the victims of sexual abuse.

It's entirely possible this is true. I wouldn't doubt it for a second.

But its important to look at where these allegations are coming from. In this instance it is not from the former 17 year old.

The text messages are pretty damning, though.

 

[Sinistril]

I love how literally no one believes in the basis of western judicial systems anymore, innocent until proven guilty.

 

[Lempo]

Does anyone know if it was a consensual encounter? Yes its creeptastic to sleep with a 17yr old but if she was a willing partner then its not illegal. However if she was being coerced in any way then that changes it 100%
On 1 side there are young women who are attracted to powerful older men but on the other side young vulnerable women are all too often forced into situations like this.

Dependent on the applicable legislation, soliciting a minor may be the actual crime here. It's not a statutoty rape as the person is not under 16, but it is a form of illegal prostitution if the person is 16-17.

 

[Svechhammer]

If it was in the US it was illegal as I think most states age of consent is 18.

If it was in Canada legal age is 16.

Then again paying for sex I think is a crime in most places.

Yeah.... let's just not get into a debate on whether or not its ok for a 53 year old to have sex with a 16 year old. Legal or not, its pretty f***ed up that he even tried it, even before you consider the money.

 

[Hockeylife2018]

Man there's a lot of disinformation floating around this
Say what you want about Katz, but the facts that we KNOW right now are
1) there is no evidence he slept with this girl, like it or not he paid her $75,000 for a project
2) Katz is not being sued, he is being named as a 3rd party as the main party is trying to discredit the girl

We have no proof of anything beyond that

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Didn't the victim's lawyer deny the accusation against Katz?

yes

"As is typical of abusers facing serious litigation, the Buttons have filed counterclaims that distract from and distort the truth and weaponize the serious allegations of abuse that have been brought against them," wrote Sigrid McCawley, managing partner at Boies Schiller LLP.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/daryl-katz-ballerina-sex-allegations-1.6526941

the accuser's (the Buttons) lawyer also represented upstanding humans like Alex Jones and neo-nazi's though

 

[Lempo]

I love how literally no one believes in the basis of western judicial systems anymore, innocent until proven guilty.

Technically that silly human right applies only to the criminal law. This here is a civil case.