New Accusations Edmonton Oilers owner Daryl Katz paid for sex with a teenager.

[CantHaveTkachev]

So can you explain the following then:

1) If it was for a film project, why did he tell her not to tell anyone else?

2) Further, why was he concerned about about the age gap between them when it came to such a payment?

3) Third and most importantly, if it was for a film, why did he tell her it would be put on a debit card so she could spend it on “herself”?

who knows, but you're speculating

and sorry, but that ain't evidence

 

[Sinistril]

No

Just no

She was 16, we're not going into some thought exercise to see her intentions in this situation. This isn't about her, this is about Katz. Keep it there.

Alleged 17, and this isn't about Katz its about some couple who is being sued for sexual assault trying to make the women look like liars by accusing Katz

 

[dasaybz]

Holy shit that's f***ing disgusting. What a vile putrid piece of crap. Dude, your in your 50s, and you want to play the hokey pokey with a teenager? Someone who's the age of maybe a grand daughter? Sickening.

 

[Sinistril]

So can you explain the following then:

1) If it was for a film project, why did he tell her not to tell anyone else?

2) Further, why was he concerned about about the age gap between them when it came to such a payment?

3) Third and most importantly, if it was for a film, why did he tell her it would be put on a debit card so she could spend it on “herself”?

Why are the girls suing another couple for sexual assault and not Katz? And why is the couple being sued the ones bringing forward the allegation? Ah to make sure the women who are suing them look like liars. Way to play into sexual abusers hands

 

[Hockeylife2018]

So can you explain the following then:

1) If it was for a film project, why did he tell her not to tell anyone else?

2) Further, why was he concerned about about the age gap between them when it came to such a payment?

3) Third and most importantly, if it was for a film, why did he tell her it would be put on a debit card so she could spend it on “herself”?

All really good questions, if we had more messages we may be able to connect those dots...but at this time both the girl and Katz deny anything happened between them....anything beyond that is nothing more then a guess

 

[nammerus]

imagine invoking your “lord and savior’s” name to defend a sleazy billionaire who sollicited sex from a 17 year old

all in the typical days work of a good old Christian!

They’ve had plenty of practice defending their own pastors and ministers for similar offences.

 

[PostBradMalone]

who knows, but you're speculating

and sorry, but that ain't evidence

Why are the girls suing another couple for sexual assault and not Katz? And why is the couple being sued the ones bringing forward the allegation? Ah to make sure the women who are suing them look like liars. Way to play into sexual abusers hands

All really good questions, if we had more messages we may be able to connect those dots...but at this time both the girl and Katz deny anything happened between them....anything beyond that is nothing more then a guess

So no answers from any of you to some very simple questions then. If you’re going to make (or support) declarative statements like “the money was totally for a movie bro!!1!!!” you should be able to provide explanations for three common sense lines of inquiry.

 

[tfwnogf]

can't say i'm surprised

 

[saintunspecified]

I have more questions than comments here. Foremost is, how did Katz meet SH? Was it through the Buttons? And in what context? Was a relationship with the buttons previously established?

My read on this is that the buttons sound like prototypical abusers - abusing power/ influence in a elite athletic field to abuse the vulnerable. If Katz had a relationship with them, possibly extending to one of the button's victims, that's damning from a public opinion pov, regardless of what else may be proven.

 

[Rodgerwilco]

I love how literally no one believes in the basis of western judicial systems anymore, innocent until proven guilty.

Innocent until proven guilty relates to criminical prosecution and detention.

It has absolutely nothing to do with people forming their own opinions about guilt or innocence based on their experience and available evidence.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

billionaires are sleezebags...stunning revelation

see: Robert Kraft

Are you really comparing this to getting a rub n tug at a massage parlor or am I missing something else he did…?

 

[Stony Curtis]

Poor guy didn't even have a private island to go to.

And I'd take a guess that waaaaay more of those islands exist than most people would care to admit.

 

[OG Eberle]

A lot of people here clearly didn't read the article and assume guilt immediately ?because he's rich/old white man/others have done it/power/etc...

Some things to note here before you go all "hurr durr, old white man gonna be a creep; not surprising":

- The opposing counsel isn't exactly known for representing the most upstanding of characters (Alex Jones, neo nazis, racists)
- The plaintiff hasn't said anything about Katz, nor even mentioned anything about any encounters such as that
- The plaintiff's lawyers have essentially said the claim against Katz isn't true
- The people making the accusation against Katz (seemingly out of thin air) are the ones being accused of sexual misconduct/abuse by several women

I don't know about you, but there seem to be a lot of question marks here regarding the validity and the source of these claims. One would think that Katz would've been mentioned or named by the actual plaintiffs if this was true, but again, complex situation. Don't hear what I'm not saying either; this isn't minimizing what these girls have brought forward. But it is acknowledging all of the information infront of us and where it's coming from in regards to Katz. If he has done something like this, it is deplorable without a doubt.

All I'm saying is we need A LOT more information before making any judgements one way or the other about Katz's involvement.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

So no answers from any of you to some very simple questions then. If you’re going to make (or support) declarative statements like “the money was totally for a movie bro!!1!!!” you should be able to provide explanations for three common sense lines of inquiry.

who said that?

Are you really comparing this to getting a rub n tug at a massage parlor or am I missing something else he did…?

I'm saying people with billions of dollars are gross
Robert Kraft, Bill Gates and Epstein Island

 

[HanSolo]

Now that it's public, there's no way Katz can settle it now and essentially admit guilt.

Settlement agreements are almost universally contingent on a clause that the the Defendant makes no admission of liability. I know that's not always how the public views it, but sometimes people just settle to expedite making the claims go away rather than spend years fighting said claims.

I'm not saying Katz didn't do it but a settlement agreement shouldn't be viewed as proof of liability or guilt.

 

[NYR94]

 

[saintunspecified]

But it is acknowledging all of the information infront of us and where it's
All I'm saying is we need A LOT more information before making any judgements one way or the other about Katz's involvement.

I agree. One shouldn't trust text messages that were in the possession of Sage Humphries' alleged abusers. They could be edited/taken out of context or whatever to make it look bad. I mean, I think the fact that they had those text messages looks pretty bad for *them". I mean, if SH got paid for sex, and they had the texts, what does it make them?

But the point remains - why was Katz even involved with such people? Could it be a coincidence, or bad luck? Could it be he was a victim of a possible blackmail scheme? Could it be that he's the sort of person who knows people who traffic girls or women of particular sorts? And the last possibility is damning.

 

[Rodgerwilco]

So no answers from any of you to some very simple questions then. If you’re going to make (or support) declarative statements like “the money was totally for a movie bro!!1!!!” you should be able to provide explanations for three common sense lines of inquiry.

The one guy literally replied "Who knows?"

lol.

 

[Tyrus]

who said that?


I'm saying people with billions of dollars are gross
Robert Kraft, Bill Gates and Epstein Island

What's gross about Bill Gates?

Is there some skeletons I'm not aware of or is he just this weird dude who spends a boatload of money trying to make the world not such a shitty place to live in?

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

The fake news media is the enemy of the people.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

Settlement agreements are almost universally contingent on a clause that the the Defendant makes no admission of liability. I know that's not always how the public views it, but sometimes people just settle to expedite making the claims go away rather than spend years fighting said claims.

I'm not saying Katz didn't do it but a settlement agreement shouldn't be viewed as proof of liability or guilt.

Oh I mean admitting guilt in the public eye, not in the court of law. For a public figure, that's all that matters.

 

[cbcwpg]

NHL owner accused of paying teenage ballerina $75,000 for sex

Daryl Katz, 61, is named in a lawsuit against Mitchell Taylor Button and his wife Dusty, the former principal dancer with the Boston Ballet.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Looks like a lot more going on here than just Katz being involved.

 

[Mickey Marner]

Gross, but I always just assume that every billionaire bangs people less than half their age, so I'm not really surprised.

 

[AddyTheWrath]

 

[joestevens29]

Lol what's going on with the "their" being underlined