Neely concedes Bruins need to handle 'off ice' issues better

[Tampbear]

That's fine and I get trying to look on the bright side. But, they were a competitive team before moving Kessel. And even despite the step back the year after moving Kessel, they rebounded the following season and won the cup with the guy who essentially replaced him. So they were successful with Kessel, and again with Seguin. Now they have lesser players (IE quantity over quality) and they're not nearly as successful. It's just a pattern that keeps occurring and it's frustrating. So while I get why you want to see the positive side, I can't help but see the missed chances. If they have Kessel or Seguin instead of some complimentary pieces, they probably have more success. The other thing that has always burned me about the Kessel deal is that he was a true habs killer. And seeing them suck game after game against them is just the cherry on top.

I completely agree with this, I wish we weren't so harsh to Kessel when he was here and same with Seguin, we definitely dug ourselves a hole when we were just being handed great assets. Atleast they are aware of the shoddy job they did and are trying to fix it while we still have a good number of talented prospects. Getting a Seguin or Kessel out of our prospect pool is going to be tough.

 

[mgreyxx99*]

What exactly are neely's qualification to run a franchise? He has none other than being a "fan favorite". And after a nationwide search he hires his buddy sweeney to be gm. This would be laughable but it's a jerry jacob's organization so it's reality.....lol

 

[Shaun]

neely should stick to passing out the jumbo meatball subs and not hockey operations

 

[xStanleyCupsFor]

This guy is nothing but a troll. Don't waste your time.

 

[Latrappe]

Colin miller is as soft as hamilton. You move hamilton you need to get something that will help us now...not some fat draft pick who will never play for boston

Colin Miller will be one of the long term solution at D for the Bruins. This guy is one of the best potential we had , in years, in Boston. You have to applaud Sweeney for the Lucic trade and the return he got for him...

 

[LSCII]

Colin Miller will be one of the long term solution at D for the Bruins. This guy is one of the best potential we had , in years, in Boston. You have to applaud Sweeney for the Lucic trade and the return he got for him...

He and Morrow are their best defensive prospects right now. And you know what they have in common? Both were not Boston picks. Scares me when you think about them going all in on the draft last year.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

He and Morrow are their best defensive prospects right now. And you know what they have in common? Both were not Boston picks. Scares me when you think about them going all in on the draft last year.

Not surprising, given your sunny outlook

Different scouting and development staff than in recent years. I like the draft picks from this year and last.

 

[LSCII]

Not surprising, given your sunny outlook

Different scouting and development staff than in recent years. I like the draft picks from this year and last.

Me saying those two are the best defensive prospects right now has zero to do with whom they picked this year. Those guys drafted this year may go onto be better when all is said and done, but Morrow and Miller are years ahead of them right now. That was all I was saying. And that their best 2 d prospects right now both came from outside the organization says they haven't done a good drafting in recent years, which is true. Pasta was the first guy they hit on in what seems to be ages.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Me saying those two are the best defensive prospects right now has zero to do with whom they picked this year. Those guys drafted this year may go onto be better when all is said and done, but Morrow and Miller are years ahead of them right now. That was all I was saying. And that their best 2 d prospects right now both came from outside the organization says they haven't done a good drafting in recent years, which is true. Pasta was the first guy they hit on in what seems to be ages.

Miller was targeted by the same group that drafted the last two years. You are complaining about scouts and development people who are no longer here. Spilled milk at this point.

 

[DKH]

neely should stick to passing out the jumbo meatball subs and not hockey operations

who should be the President of the team

 

[DKH]

He and Morrow are their best defensive prospects right now. And you know what they have in common? Both were not Boston picks. Scares me when you think about them going all in on the draft last year.

isn't O'Gara their best? he's supposed to be the best shut down guy in college hockey this year and projects as a top 4 defensive monster maybe as soon as April but certainly next season

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/...-takes-time/980RdHcqMZvgZn8A4NftuN/story.html

But O’Gara’s path also shows how a long-term project could develop into a four-bagger.

In 2014-15, O’Gara had six goals and 15 assists in 33 games for Yale. He was a first-team All-American. He was named the ECAC’s Best Defensive Defenseman. The 6-foot-4-inch, 212-pound O’Gara will enter 2015-16 as one of college hockey’s top shutdown defensemen.

He is a good skater. The left-shot O’Gara extends his perimeter with his stick and reach. When puck carriers approach, O’Gara is prompt to gap up and close on trespassers.

Once he hits his optimal peak weight of 220 pounds and gains more experience, O’Gara could become a trusted five-on-five and penalty-killing NHL defenseman.

“It’s tough on a forward with a guy that big and a reach like that,†said development coach Jay Pandolfo. “He can skate because he can close on you so quickly and shut down any space.â€

Lonnie, I am sorry if this embarrassed you. I went for a long walk before posting this on O'Gara and showing you were wrong. I still like you

 

[LSCII]

Miller was targeted by the same group that drafted the last two years. You are complaining about scouts and development people who are no longer here. Spilled milk at this point.

Wasn't complaining, just making an observation. One that's still accurate, regardless of whether the team has made changes to their scouting department.

 

[LSCII]

isn't O'Gara their best? he's supposed to be the best shut down guy in college hockey this year and projects as a top 4 defensive monster maybe as soon as April but certainly next season

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/...-takes-time/980RdHcqMZvgZn8A4NftuN/story.html



Lonnie, I am sorry if this embarrassed you. I went for a long walk before posting this on O'Gara and showing you were wrong. I still like you

Embarrassed? Why yes I am. I'm constantly embarrassed for you when you say things like this and are constantly wrong. Let me ask you a question, if I may be so bold. How is Jared Knight's NHL career going? If I can recall, you seemed to project him pretty high too, but I don't recall him ever being good enough to even play in an NHL game.

So with that being said, it's great that O'Gara projects to be good, but is he playing against actual NHL level players right now? No. No he's not. So while you may get a little O'Gara in your shorts over his projections, I choose to look at players that are doing it against actual NHL competition. Therefore, the best d prospects they have right now are named Morrow and Miller. So I guess we can just agree to disagree, but hey, in 2-4 years IF O'Gara makes it, and IF O'Gara is better than those two, I'll be happy to say you were right. Thanks for playing though Dan, it's always a pleasure...

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

At least Cam stopped Chiarelli from destroying our team last trade deadline.

 

[DKH]

Embarrassed? Why yes I am. I'm constantly embarrassed for you when you say things like this and are constantly wrong. Let me ask you a question, if I may be so bold. How is Jared Knight's NHL career going? If I can recall, you seemed to project him pretty high too, but I don't recall him ever being good enough to even play in an NHL game.

So with that being said, it's great that O'Gara projects to be good, but is he playing against actual NHL level players right now? No. No he's not. So while you may get a little O'Gara in your shorts over his projections, I choose to look at players that are doing it against actual NHL competition. Therefore, the best d prospects they have right now are named Morrow and Miller. So I guess we can just agree to disagree, but hey, in 2-4 years IF O'Gara makes it, and IF O'Gara is better than those two, I'll be happy to say you were right. Thanks for playing though Dan, it's always a pleasure...

in my defense I openly admit I'm much better knowledge wise and even playing a sport in baseball and football.....hockey is my third sport and I'm still picking things up and why I like HF Boards

if you want to take a shot a my cred use these two

1. I was pissed we drafted Bergeron over Latendresse
2. I wanted to keep Kalus and trade Krejci

shoot big Lonnie

 

[LSCII]

in my defense I openly admit I'm much better knowledge wise and even playing a sport in baseball and football.....hockey is my third sport and I'm still picking things up and why I like HF Boards

if you want to take a shot a my cred use these two

1. I was pissed we drafted Bergeron over Latendresse
2. I wanted to keep Kalus and trade Krejci

shoot big Lonnie

Dan, love the schtick about not knowing hockey. It's hilarious, and you have to keep that up. I die laughing every time I see it...

And really, there's no reason for me to take a shot at you because your post above speaks to exactly why I'm critical of moving roster players for picks, and rating unknowns over guys who are currently playing in the league. Futures are fun to speculate over, but you never know how or who will pan out. Some of the most sure fire picks flame out hard, and some guys who were stiffs in college or juniors turn out to be great pros. It's exactly why I don't give a flying **** how great the projections for O'Gara are. They're meaningless. You may as well print them out and use them as TP, because that's about all they're good for...

 

[finchster]

One, choice of any puck bunny in the city (and beyond I'm sure).


Two, if serious, this says a lot about you as a person.

Oh save the moralistic non-sense for someone else. Two adults made a stupid decision. Hell, one was a decade older than the other and should've known better instead of leading the golden boy down the primrose path.

In St Louis, when they traded Shanahan they got Pronger. If the Bruins got a Pronger type guy in this deal, no one cares about Seguin today.

 

[DKH]

Dan, love the schtick about not knowing hockey. It's hilarious, and you have to keep that up. I die laughing every time I see it...

And really, there's no reason for me to take a shot at you because your post above speaks to exactly why I'm critical of moving roster players for picks, and rating unknowns over guys who are currently playing in the league. Futures are fun to speculate over, but you never know how or who will pan out. Some of the most sure fire picks flame out hard, and some guys who were stiffs in college or juniors turn out to be great pros. It's exactly why I don't give a flying **** how great the projections for O'Gara are. They're meaningless. You may as well print them out and use them as TP, because that's about all they're good for...

my favorite move by HF was wiping out about 6 years of posts to destroy all the evidence of some of my most bizarre posts

btw- I think Joe has O'Gara in the SIM be careful you don't want him to come down on you

speaking of TP biggest mistake I ever made was buying a 20 roll of one-ply....I figured I'd just use it but did the math one day and realized it would take me 20 years to use it up. Anyone out there needs 19 1/2 rolls of one ply toilet paper its yours....maybe the single worst product ever created

 

[mgreyxx99*]

We are still paying half of looch's salary...how is that a great trade. Shouldhave kept jones and traded rask at that point bcuz this team isn't going anywhere for awhile

 

[LSCII]

my favorite move by HF was wiping out about 6 years of posts to destroy all the evidence of some of my most bizarre posts

btw- I think Joe has O'Gara in the SIM be careful you don't want him to come down on you

speaking of TP biggest mistake I ever made was buying a 20 roll of one-ply....I figured I'd just use it but did the math one day and realized it would take me 20 years to use it up. Anyone out there needs 19 1/2 rolls of one ply toilet paper its yours....maybe the single worst product ever created

Ha! So in 4 years, when O'Gara finally has a passable rating in the sim, I'll be very worried...

 

[LSCII]

We are still paying half of looch's salary...how is that a great trade. Shouldhave kept jones and traded rask at that point bcuz this team isn't going anywhere for awhile

I assume you're still trolling, but you are 100% about picking up Lucic's money. Hard to justify making a deal for cap space and then netting next to nothing in actual cap space...

 

[CDJ]

my favorite move by HF was wiping out about 6 years of posts to destroy all the evidence of some of my most bizarre posts

btw- I think Joe has O'Gara in the SIM be careful you don't want him to come down on you

speaking of TP biggest mistake I ever made was buying a 20 roll of one-ply....I figured I'd just use it but did the math one day and realized it would take me 20 years to use it up. Anyone out there needs 19 1/2 rolls of one ply toilet paper its yours....maybe the single worst product ever created

I made posts about Chistov being a legitimate top-6er




or did I?

 

[CDJ]

I assume you're still trolling, but you are 100% about picking up Lucic's money. Hard to justify making a deal for cap space and then netting next to nothing in actual cap space...

I don't think the deal was intended to be a straight up cap dump, I think it was intended to maximize a return for him because they had no plans on re-signing him to big money with his lazy style of play of late. 2 1sts, Miller, and Kuraly is a nice haul for a year of him. Might honestly rather have Miller at this point anyway and I was a massive Lucic guy.

That's just my opinion though.

 

[Tampbear]

I don't think the deal was intended to be a straight up cap dump, I think it was intended to maximize a return for him because they had no plans on re-signing him to big money with his lazy style of play of late. 2 1sts, Miller, and Kuraly is a nice haul for a year of him. Might honestly rather have Miller at this point anyway and I was a massive Lucic guy.

That's just my opinion though.

I have to say on early returns this is one of the best trades we've had in years, 2 1sts and a guy that could be top pairing D for us fairly quickly. Kuraly could be something for us too, but just Miller is looking good for us.

 

[chizzler]

We are still paying half of looch's salary...how is that a great trade. Shouldhave kept jones and traded rask at that point bcuz this team isn't going anywhere for awhile

In the big scheme of things, picking up 2.5 million for one year isn't a big deal. I'm sure Sweeney knows where his team stands. The return as of right now is looking good. We'll see.