Confirmed with Link: Ned is back! 2x2.5m

[HandshakeLine]

Through December 31st, Jarry had a .916 save% while he played in 24 of 34 games for the Penguins. I don't know why Sullivan has never thought "maybe I should ease Jarry's usage early in the season so he doesn't break down later in the season".

I mean, this is also true. But only one of these components can be removed from the roster and something gained from the experience.

Jarry is probably a much better goalie for any other team with a semblance of decent coaching, but he's also kind of burned a lot of bridges here, so I get why people want him gone.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Yeah I rip on Jarry and at this point I think it's pretty justified that I do.

But much like a ton of other players on this team... wouldn't surprise me if he did better elsewhere. But then again that's also kinda goaltenders in general. World beaters one month... swiss cheese the next.

 

[AjaxTelamon]

Jarry could be a world beater with a change of scenery and if he gets a bit more rest. That's how I pitch it on the trade call.

 

[K Fleur]

I’ve never cared much about what Jarry’s save% is.

I do care that if an important game is on the line and we need some big saves; Jarry’s falling on his face.

 

[Tom Hanks]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1804215087596450036

 

[Freeptop]

If we could get anything like the Markstrom return for Jarry, that'd be swell

Eh, New Jersey seems to be the only team willing to trade a 1st for a goalie, so I wouldn't expect anything close to that. (Last time was for Schneider, if I recall correctly).

That said, there having already been a couple of goalie moves mean that other teams that need a goalie are going to see their primary targets already moved, and may be a bit more willing to settle for someone like Jarry. I wouldn't expect much, but for the Pens, the real return would be getting out of that contract (assuming they don't bring back an other long-term contract with a similar cap hit in return).

 

[CascadiaPenguin]

Jarry could be a world beater with a change of scenery and if he gets a bit more rest. That's how I pitch it on the trade call.

That's when the line goes dead, bruh.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Oh great, Jarry's BFF is back to defend the "tired" choker with limey slang.

Anyone questioning TJ's lack of clutch is a:
Pillock
Blighter
Git
Ninny
Plonker
Prat
Tosser
Bedswerver
Canadian Dollar
Chav
Fopdoodle
Lummox
Numpty
Bugger
Cumberworld
Minger
Scrubber
Wazzock
Abydocomist
Afternoon Farmer

Oh look, dimwitted twat

 

[Turin]

Jarry kinda sucks if he needs more rest than what he gets season by season.

He also sucks when he comes off extended breaks.

So... there's no winning there.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I think the one thing we can all agree upon is that Tristan Jarry needs to be moved. I don't have the idiotic petty reasons of "I just don't like him" which is beyond immature, but whatever. I don't think Ned signs the 2yr deal if Dubas didn't tell him that he was going to move on from Jarry or that they'd make the attempt to.

Now personally - I hope Jarry is moved so I can see how well he plays behind a team that has a better structured system and defense, which is basically most of the teams, the only other one that played an awful system like the Pens was just fired and hired as the Pens Assistant Coach, so that's fun.

The absolute asinine comments from - He blames others for losses (That was Murray not Jarry), or that he's arrogant (he's probably the most humble aw-shucks type on the roster, he literally goes back to the farm in Alberta and farms during the summer, that's a zero ego player). He's on a team that needs prime Roy and Brodeur to make up for the piss poor team in front of him defensively and a coach that doesn't understand breaks and rotation, it sucks to see the amount of hate he's getting which is just pathetic to see from the Pens fan base. We mock the Rangers, Isles, Caps, etc for being shitty fans, but I mean pot calling kettle black here with the bullshit I've read lurking.

Good for Ned, I hope Jarry is given a restart elsewhere soon to put to rest if he's a reliable starter or not. I am sure I know how it will go if he is successful away...

"Well, look at the team in front of him, even I could win 30 games behind that team."

Well no shit, a good team means your goalie has proper support and gets to do his job without having to do more than he's asked. It's no different than Malkin getting Bunting or Crosby needing Guentzel for the last few years.

 

[JRS91]

When Jarry is playing well, he's a top 15 goalie.

The problem is consistency. He's too inconsistent and injured to be the guy in my opinion. I like the signing. I don't think they'll move Jarry, but it's a nice contingency plan in case he's bad.

 

[MetalheadPenguinsFan]

Oh great, Jarry's BFF is back to defend the "tired" choker with limey slang.

Anyone questioning TJ's lack of clutch is a:
Fopdoodle

This is a truly magnificent word!!!

 

[Honour Over Glory]

This is a truly magnificent word!!!

It's comical that all the bellend did was google british slang and copied the few bunch and figured that's all we say. He is as @Tom Hanks would say, a bogan dickhead.

 

[BillyOcean]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1804215087596450036

This was the same nonsense spewed by MAF simps and acolytes during his time. It wasn't true then either.

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

Eh, New Jersey seems to be the only team willing to trade a 1st for a goalie, so I wouldn't expect anything close to that. (Last time was for Schneider, if I recall correctly).

That said, there having already been a couple of goalie moves mean that other teams that need a goalie are going to see their primary targets already moved, and may be a bit more willing to settle for someone like Jarry. I wouldn't expect much, but for the Pens, the real return would be getting out of that contract (assuming they don't bring back an other long-term contract with a similar cap hit in return).

If I'm the Wings, I definitely start inquiring about Jarry.

 

[Maninthebox87]

I feel like Ned is the best backup goaltender they have had since maybe Tomas Vokoun. Any game Ned started I never felt like it was a potential loss.

 

[HandshakeLine]

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[Gurglesons]

I feel like Ned is the best backup goaltender they have had since maybe Tomas Vokoun. Any game Ned started I never felt like it was a potential loss.

Tomas Vokoun was our starter tho.

 

[BusinessGoose]

Tomas Vokoun was our starter tho.

Man, it sucks he had the clotting issues too.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Goalie coaches are interesting - What makes one successful at the AHL level doesn't always translate for the NHL, Buckley was one that I think had more of that issue, the style he had Murray play didn't work that well in the long run for Murray and it helped Jarry for stretches but it really didn't get consistency in his game either. When you look at the very good goalie coaches around the league - Greco, Essensa, etc, the Penguins having the issue they do with both goalies falling off massively and not being consistent at all should be a major concern to Kindergarten Kyle.

I think Chiodo is having that same issue, what worked for him with developing young goalies isn't working with keeping them consistent. Meloche was Fleury's go to and his game didn't really evolve until Bales came over, then to take Fleury's game to the next level he had to go very late in his career to Vegas where he finally wins a Vezina. Murray and his injuries is already well discussed. But Jarry? To me it's like the Sabres goalie UPL - He was dreadful in 2022-23, prior to that he was very good, but then he rebounds in a big way this past season.

Jarry meanwhile, he has all this potential but the goalie coaches like Buckley and Chiodo haven't been able to get it out of him, then again, Buckley and Chiodo haven't since 2017-18 (Buckley fired in 2021).

A part of my curiosity with wanting Jarry moved is to see him work with a better goalie coach to see if they could bring out that goalie he could have been for the Penguins on that new team. But I don't hold out much hope for Ned being all that good or decent next season under Chiodo. Even with Blomqvist, Tisi is doing a good job there but once he comes over, how many of those same issues will Chiodo not fix or help Blom adapt to?

 

[Honour Over Glory]

It's just weird.

Start of the Season to January 1st the Penguins had incredible goaltending given some major defense issues that goalies bailed out and injuries and slumps to players like Rust, Rakell, Smith, Malkin, etc:

October 10 - January 1st
Jarry: 24 games played, Record 11-11-2, 2.47 GAA, .916sv% and 4 shutouts
Nedeljkovic: 11 games played, 6-2-2, 2.49 GAA, .924sv% and 1 shutout

Even Hellberg put up a very good game in his 1 game up during that span. For the first 35 games, this team was barely 2pts out of a playoff spot.

January 2nd - April 18th - Woof, both were awful.

Jarry: 24 games played, 8-14-3, 3.34 GAA, and .891sv% and 2 shutouts
Nedeljkovic: 23 games played, 12-5-5, 3.19 GAA, .891sv%

Jarry allowed 3 more goals than Ned in that span, but faced 28 more shots. Goal scoring the last 15 games for the Penguins went from near the bottom to the top 3 of the league, but goals allowed in the last 15 was brutal.

I mean what does it say when you go 8-4-3 in the last 15 but you allow the 24th worst goals against per game while having the 3rd best goals per game? I mean if you have some brain cells you know the Penguins didn't score much per game before that but were scoring enough to win games while allowing a f*** ton but scoring just enough to win those games. The PK was also brutal in that span. It's such a weird take to blame goaltending as one of the major issues, but something went sideways after January 1st.

It's an interesting time frame to the end of the season because the Leafs and Avs were worse than the Penguins for bleeding goals and weren't scoring enough, they were barely consistent as top teams heading into the playoffs.