Speculation: NCAA (Drafted) Players set to become Free Agents on August 15th

[Northernhawk]

Jake Wise signed and played one regular season game(had 2 assists) and one playoff game(had a goal) with Charlotte Checkers…would still love to see him sign with Chicago

 

[Jumptheshark]

Hey, you got Carson Bjarnason out of it

how do you figure that?

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

how do you figure that?

I was mistaken, I thought that was the compensatory pick that Philly received because it happened to be 32 spots after 19 (O’Brien selection). Turns out the pick they will receive is a 2024 2nd rounder, however.

 

[Jumptheshark]

I was mistaken, I thought that was the compensatory pick that Philly received because it happened to be 32 spots after 19 (O’Brien selection). Turns out the pick they will receive is a 2024 2nd rounder, however.

that is what I thought

 

[nturn06]

Can someone explain to me why these players are allowed to sign with other team's AHL affiliates before this deadline?

I think that Brind'Amour for example told the Oilers that he wants to play for his dad (maybe he thinks he cannot make the NHL otherwise), so they probably allowed him to go already. If you know that the guy will not sign, better to cut him lose than wait couple more months for the innevitable.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I wonder if Treliving will show interest in Farinacci?

I say that because he has Doan on his Staff and Doan would be familiar with him.

 

[Zippy316]

I wonder if it makes any sense for someone like Farinacci or O’Brien to sign one year for Chicago.

I would suppose they could theoretically be offered a higher AHL salary than an ELC. Not entirely sure on what ELC each would sign, but if they are in that threshold where this year would be a 3 year ELC and next year would be 2 years, why not?

Like for instance, maybe Chicago offers them 150k. They play out the year there as they’re most likely in the AHL anyways, sign an ELC next season, and then maybe be closer to pushing for an NHL salary rather than the 80k they make on an ELC.

 

[WarriorofTime]

I wonder if it makes any sense for someone like Farinacci or O’Brien to sign one year for Chicago.

I would suppose they could theoretically be offered a higher AHL salary than an ELC. Not entirely sure on what ELC each would sign, but if they are in that threshold where this year would be a 3 year ELC and next year would be 2 years, why not?

Like for instance, maybe Chicago offers them 150k. They play out the year there as they’re most likely in the AHL anyways, sign an ELC next season, and then maybe be closer to pushing for an NHL salary rather than the 80k they make on an ELC.

Chicago Wolves I presume?

 

[gach]

I think that Brind'Amour for example told the Oilers that he wants to play for his dad (maybe he thinks he cannot make the NHL otherwise), so they probably allowed him to go already. If you know that the guy will not sign, better to cut him lose than wait couple more months for the innevitable.

Maybe why Canes traded for pool party to watch the playoffs from the press box and allow the Oilers cap room for a trade of there own and the Oilers in return let him go. Just a guess and not based on anything

 

[nturn06]

Maybe why Canes traded for pool party to watch the playoffs from the press box and allow the Oilers cap room for a trade of there own and the Oilers in return let him go. Just a guess and not based on anything

My impression was that they traded for Pulju because they hoped he will click with Aho, and they figured out what he can do by the playoffs ...

 

[Lunatik]

Can someone explain to me why these players are allowed to sign with other team's AHL affiliates before this deadline?

AHL contracts are just that, AHL contracts. It being another teams affiliate makes no difference. It's no different than signing with a European team or ECHL team. I'm assuming in these cases either the player or team has told the other they won't be signing, in order to avoid hard feelings.

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

I'm not entirely sure, but it seems that you can technically sign an AHL deal (that removes NCAA eligibility since it's a pro contract) but remain on a different team's reserve list (as they are the only team that can offer you an NHL deal at that point). I'm not entirely clear on the logistics of AHL deals, but I think any player on an AHL deal can be signed for an NHL deal at any point. So if if a guy blows up mid-season on an AHL deal, a different team could sign him to an NHL contract even if they are not that player's AHL team's parent club.

That would be similar to a player on a PTO or ATO.

 

[StreetHawk]

I wonder if it makes any sense for someone like Farinacci or O’Brien to sign one year for Chicago.

I would suppose they could theoretically be offered a higher AHL salary than an ELC. Not entirely sure on what ELC each would sign, but if they are in that threshold where this year would be a 3 year ELC and next year would be 2 years, why not?

Like for instance, maybe Chicago offers them 150k. They play out the year there as they’re most likely in the AHL anyways, sign an ELC next season, and then maybe be closer to pushing for an NHL salary rather than the 80k they make on an ELC.

I think if you are under 27 you still need to sign the standard elc contract. You can negotiate to have the A and B bonuses but only the really great players hit both.

 

[Zippy316]

I think if you are under 27 you still need to sign the standard elc contract. You can negotiate to have the A and B bonuses but only the really great players hit both.

Well yes, but there’s certain age ranges where your ELC changes from 3 years to 2 years. I’m not entirely sure on the cutoffs, but I know they’re somewhere close to when a player is 22/23.

The max AHL salary on these ELCs are quite low, somewhere in the 80k-90k range. All of these guys are likely to play most, if not all of next season in the AHL.

If one of these players are in that range where their deal this off-season is a three year deal and next is a two year deal, there may be some logic to signing with the Chicago Wolves on an AHL deal at a higher salary (say 150k+). Then sign a two year ELC next summer when they might have a better chance at an NHL roster spot. It really changes nothing for them, except they made more money the year prior.

Granted, it’s likely these guys would rather the security of a three year ELC. But depending on how much the Wolves are offering, it’s an interesting idea for some of these guys in their position.

 

[Petes2424]

There’s really nobody on this list who’s straight up deserving of an ELC. Farinacci, Wall and Wise, maybe a team or two will have interest. Likely those teams who haven’t drafted and developed well, with limited quality in their prospect ranks.

Most of those teams with several contract spots open, are looking for vets to surround their prospects with in the AHL. So if a player like Wise can’t contribute like a vet, they’re really not worth having around. They have to be better than those 20-22 year old prospects, and in these cases, they’re not.

Much more likely they sign an AHL deal, spend most the year in the ECHL, and work up towards an ELC.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Any idea where jay obrien ends up?

 

[Zippy316]

There’s really nobody on this list who’s straight up deserving of an ELC. Farinacci, Wall and Wise, maybe a team or two will have interest. Likely those teams who haven’t drafted and developed well, with limited quality in their prospect ranks.

Most of those teams with several contract spots open, are looking for vets to surround their prospects with in the AHL. So if a player like Wise can’t contribute like a vet, they’re really not worth having around. They have to be better than those 20-22 year old prospects, and in these cases, they’re not.

Much more likely they sign an AHL deal, spend most the year in the ECHL, and work up towards an ELC.

I would imagine the Devils might be interested in one of the centers. Their center depth on the AHL team is horrendous, as their centers have all graduated and drafting was understandably looking to bolster around the current center core.

Maybe one of these guys see an opportunity to carve out a bottom six role on this Devils team. Farinacci is from NJ so that could be a cool pick up there.

 

[cwede]

Any idea where jay obrien ends up?

ex-Terrier Chris Drury may be tempted to offer an ELC...

 

[Mrfenn92]

ex-Terrier Chris Drury may be tempted to offer an ELC...

Could see a few teams going that route
Plus skater

 

[Sparksrus3]

AHL contracts are just that, AHL contracts. It being another teams affiliate makes no difference. It's no different than signing with a European team or ECHL team. I'm assuming in these cases either the player or team has told the other they won't be signing

, in order to avoid hard feelings.

I know it’s an “ everybody gets a trophy “ world out there but come on

 

[willy702]

Quote from Farinacci from an article in March:

Has he already gotten his degree from Harvard? I mean why would you go to ASU?

I mean realistically he probably can make more money from his degree than busting out in the minors. Maybe he gives it one shot at someone's camp to see if he gets any traction but if he's a very low chance of sticking at the NHL level I would just call it a career and move on with my very valuable degree in hand. Besides, since you don't get a scholarship to play at Harvard he's obviously got some family resources to call on.

 

[jarboy]

There’s really nobody on this list who’s straight up deserving of an ELC. Farinacci, Wall and Wise, maybe a team or two will have interest. Likely those teams who haven’t drafted and developed well, with limited quality in their prospect ranks.

Most of those teams with several contract spots open, are looking for vets to surround their prospects with in the AHL. So if a player like Wise can’t contribute like a vet, they’re really not worth having around. They have to be better than those 20-22 year old prospects, and in these cases, they’re not.

Much more likely they sign an AHL deal, spend most the year in the ECHL, and work up towards an ELC.

only 6 players on an AHL team can be veterans, so they have to have the rest developmental players.

 

[Brodeur]

Has he already gotten his degree from Harvard? I mean why would you go to ASU?

I mean realistically he probably can make more money from his degree than busting out in the minors. Maybe he gives it one shot at someone's camp to see if he gets any traction but if he's a very low chance of sticking at the NHL level I would just call it a career and move on with my very valuable degree in hand. Besides, since you don't get a scholarship to play at Harvard he's obviously got some family resources to call on.

I think Farinacci will be the most likely guy of the bunch to get an ELC after August 15. Arizona wanted to sign him but Farinacci had other plans.

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

only 6 players on an AHL team can be veterans, so they have to have the rest developmental players.

Actually it's 5+, as 12 of the players on a game roster must have played less than 261 professional games, and one may have played as much as 320 professional games.

But that is only for each game. A team may have 6, 7 or 8 "veterans" on their roster, as long as only 5 are dressed for a game.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Farinacci's sister married Brady Tkachuk recently. I half-jokingly wondered if there was anybody recruiting him during the reception.

Best lineup from Tkachuk’s wedding and yes you can use retired players like his dad and Doug Weight