World Cup: National Team threads #2

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Not going to lie...the scoreboard has me smirking. @cgf

Maybe Low wasn't the problem? Or Maybe they should fire Flick's successor.

 

[NyQuil]

LOL, Werner gets a yellow for asking why it wasn’t a clear advantage.

Not going to lie...the scoreboard has me smirking. @cgf

Maybe Low wasn't the problem? Or Maybe they should fire Flick's successor.

In Italy? What did you expect?

 

[Gecklund]

LOL, Werner gets a yellow for asking why it wasn’t a clear advantage.



In Italy? What did you expect?

I mean considering Germany on paper is the FAR better team I’d think they’d be doing a whole hell of a lot better.

 

[Live in the Now]

Not going to lie...the scoreboard has me smirking. @cgf

Maybe Low wasn't the problem? Or Maybe they should fire Flick's successor.

They aren’t going to do anything without Wirtz. That was an underrated very bad injury.

 

[NyQuil]

I mean considering Germany on paper is the FAR better team I’d think they’d be doing a whole hell of a lot better.

Meh, Germany is going to go on the road in Italy and dominate?

My biggest disappointment is in Neuer. Time to put him out to pasture.

Who hasn’t gotten a yellow at this point?

 

[Gecklund]

Meh, Germany is going to go on the road in Italy and dominate?

My biggest disappointment is in Neuer. Time to put him out to pasture.

They’ve had a huge advantage in possession without any finish so yeah. There’s a pretty strong argument that maximum 2 players (Bastoni and Barella) would break into the German team.

 

[NyQuil]

Two Italians rolling around in the box not realizing that it was redundant.

 

[koyvoo]

Not going to lie...the scoreboard has me smirking. @cgf

Maybe Low wasn't the problem? Or Maybe they should fire Flick's successor.

I do believe Low was a problem. Or became a problem. But he also had a generation of German footballers with such quality that his successor likely doesn’t have. I think that’s where we’re at.

 

[NyQuil]

They’ve had a huge advantage in possession without any finish so yeah. There’s a pretty strong argument that maximum 2 players (Bastoni and Barella) would break into the German team.

I’ll always take a draw on the road.

 

[Gecklund]

I’ll always take a draw on the road.

Maybe for an average team but a top 5 team in the world? Hell no. Especially against a team like Italy.

 

[NyQuil]

8 yellow cards.

Maybe for an average team but a top 5 team in the world? Hell no.

They weren’t playing Luxembourg.

 

[Gecklund]

8 yellow cards.



They weren’t playing Luxembourg.

No but they’re playing a nation that’s been in steep decline for the past decade and missed the WC. If this wasn’t Germany playing then (a team that’s supposed to be top 2-3 in Europe) it’s a different story.

 

[cgf]

Not going to lie...the scoreboard has me smirking. @cgf

Maybe Low wasn't the problem? Or Maybe they should fire Flick's successor.

Not sure why you're feeling smug, this is terrible for all of us. The german NT team not losing to Italy is one of the harbingers of the apocalypse

 

[Live in the Now]

Tonali would play for Germany too but yeah that is not their best lineup. Also despite what the WC qualifying says I don't think Italy as players are in decline at all. Their managers are morons.

I don't think that highly of Germany as contenders though for a variety of reasons.

 

[cgf]

No but they’re playing a nation that’s been in steep decline for the past decade and missed the WC. If this wasn’t Germany playing then (a team that’s supposed to be top 2-3 in Europe) it’s a different story.

It was also a derby match against the defending european champions; who always beat us...those rarely go the way it looks like they should on paper.

 

[Gecklund]

Tonali would play for Germany too but yeah that is not their best lineup. Also despite what the WC qualifying says I don't think Italy as players are in decline at all. Their managers are morons.

I don't think that highly of Germany as contenders though for a variety of reasons.

I love Tonali and think he should eventually get there but I think right now he wouldn’t be starting over Goretzka or Kimmich. Unless they pushed Goretzka up to AM.

 

[NyQuil]

No but they’re playing a nation that’s been in steep decline for the past decade and missed the WC. If this wasn’t Germany playing then (a team that’s supposed to be top 2-3 in Europe) it’s a different story.

I'm not sure if you're aware, but it's not as if Germany has been a powerhouse over the last five years.

Maybe for an average team but a top 5 team in the world? Hell no. Especially against a team like Italy.

They are in fact 12th in the world.

Italy is actually ranked 6th.

 

[cgf]

They aren’t going to do anything without Wirtz. That was an underrated very bad injury.

Wirtz would've been sweet, but with Havertz, Musiala, Adeyemi, & Sanabry, we're not exactly starved for options without him even if nobody from the u21s (Burkardt, Moukoko, Schade, etc.) makes the jump before Qatar.

Just can't start Timo with grandpa down the middle (or Rüdiger) when the games start to matter...or play Henrichs ever.

 

[Live in the Now]

I love Tonali and think he should eventually get there but I think right now he wouldn’t be starting over Goretzka or Kimmich. Unless they pushed Goretzka up to AM.

I'd start him over Goretzka without a second thought. So good knowing when it's time to go forward. Not much lesser than FDJ if even lesser at all imo.

 

[Incubajerks]

Maybe for an average team but a top 5 team in the world? Hell no. Especially against a team like Italy.

Well we are also always European champions, but above all we lost against them only when we were allies. I understand well why they are happy with the draw, and so am I.

 

[Power Man]

Holy crap

What a goal by Belaili

 

[cgf]

Hungary beating England at least has given the potential of the relegation battle being noteworthy.

Label these matches whatever you’d like, I can’t imagine any one of Germany, Italy or England being happy playing the next edition of this tournament in the “B” league. Germany was relegated in the first edition of the tournament, and the rules were changed to save them the embarrassment of going down a league.

Neither one of these two teams exactly look like an elite “A” level side these days, but going down a league is just a bad look.

I mean, it'll be funny when England goes from "it's coming home" to the B league.

...but the matches still feel more like friendlies than they do tourney matches or even qualifiers...

 

[HajdukSplit]

The problem with this edition is the timing, playing four games in 10 days ffs after already a long season where the players barely got a break after the Covid season

 

[koyvoo]

I mean, it'll be funny when England goes from "it's coming home" to the B league.

...but the matches still feel more like friendlies than they do tourney matches or even qualifiers...

I don’t disagree with that, but some big team will pay the price for not putting a certain level of importance on these games.

There will be a big team who will be placed in pot two of a future qualifying campaign for shitting the bed in these games. Eventually, one of the two big teams drawn into the same group will lose their playoff, and miss a major tournament, because of these friendlies. Then what?

But the serous side of it. Even the laughs of one of these teams playing the next edition in the “B” league will stop, when they’re there. What, England, Italy or Germany relegated to the second tier won’t care to get back up, once they’re down there?

Eventually being a laughing stock won’t feel so funny, even if you pretend it doesn’t matter.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

I do believe Low was a problem. Or became a problem. But he also had a generation of German footballers with such quality that his successor likely doesn’t have. I think that’s where we’re at.

Low was trash... im just giving it @cgf after all the Euro snobs and Mpabbe's comments its nice to win one. Losing one game isn't really a big deal... like at all.