Confirmed with Link: Nathan Horton to Toronto for David Clarkson

[ScreamingWild]

Jarmo is looking like a terrible GM, with Gaborik, the length of Horton's contract, trading for Clarkson and taking on that contract. Geez, never say it cant get any worse. I dont care about his drafting, give us a freaking GM that knows how to be a GM

To put things in a bizarro perspective, Doug sends his regards...

 

[Divine]

Clarkie is a good dude, and was a fan favorite in NJ. He's strong on the boards, and is good in front of the net. He's an extremely hard working player, and can excel in the right situation.

He can't pass and can't skate though.

 

[BluejacketNut]

To put things in a bizarro perspective, Doug sends his regards...

the tradition continues

PS...thanks for making me laugh on this dark day

 

[PubOFH]

To put things in a bizarro perspective, Doug sends his regards...

No way do I miss this fool. The reason we we have been irrelevant for a decade is because of this idiot.

 

[Divine]

Aaron Portzline ‏@Aportzline 8s9 seconds ago

Kekalainen on Horton: "We would have been paying him $26 million the next five years to sit in the stands."

In case you were wondering if he would ever play agan, here's your answer. Nope

Would you rather sit him in the stands or play him?

Your move, CBJ.

 

[RyanOhReally]

forward line up in 3 years

Milano - Johansen - Wennberg
Foligno - Jenner - Bjorkstrand
Rychel - Dubinsky - Clarkson
Dano - Letestu - Anderson

I like it

 

[Blue Goose]

No one's supporting the trade by saying Jarmo is competent in general, or that Clarkson's a good player. We're saying the money couldn't have been recouped in any way except by trading the contract., and that the return would inevitably be another bad contract from a cap team. And you couldn't have spent the money elsewhere -- it was tied up in Horton's contract.

This.
I see people complain that Clarkson will take a lineup spot from someone more deserving, but CBJ is going to have a roster loaded with up-and-coming players - if they're better than Clarkson, then one would imagine that the coach would put DC up in the press box, where Horton was. Unless people are going to complain that Clarkson is taking a press-box spot from someone?

Explain how he would have value other than in exchange for a guy with a crappy contract like Clarkson? I think its like tweedle dee- tweedle dum(b). Got a guy who can play a bit and maybe we get lucky ( I mean we're due right?)and he captures lightning in a bottle one more time.

I disagree that the outcome would ever have been better unless Mike Milbury gets hired as a GM. I guess the other time it could be better if we need the cap space and could have put Horton on LTIR.

This would be the only concern, but do the Jackets project to be a team up against the Cap any time soon? By my accounts, their cap situation looks pretty good for at least the next two seasons - the only expiring contract that might prove worrisome is Anisimov. The rest of the expiring deals are RFA's who can't possibly demand that much of a pay raise.

It's a calculated risk and Jarmo/JD went for it - good on them. That's why a team like the Jackets needs executives like them, unless some of you would rather have management that sits on their hands and hopes that successful teams fall into their laps?

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

Based on that, we should make Clarkson #9

Don't taint David Vyborny like that.

 

[MarkGio]

Help me understand this:

Columbus is paying salary for a Horton, who will never play again, hence they'd prefer to pay someone who will play, even if its Clarkson?!



Is that what took place?

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

Help me understand this:

Columbus is paying salary for a Horton, who will never play again, hence they'd prefer to pay someone who will play, even if its Clarkson?!



Is that what took place?

Yes.

And if we are lucky, Clarkson has insurance.

 

[mouser]

Why wouldn't there be any insurance by the CBJ on Horton? I thought that was pretty standard for every NHL contract. Especially one that large.

Most contracts aren't insured. Last update we had on the NHL's league-wide insurance program typically only the 5 biggest contracts on a team are insured. And even then the insurer can pro-actively deny future claims for a specific repeat injury. For example I doubt Pitt has Crosby's contract insured against a career-ending future concussion.

 

[We Want Ten]

This is an unforgivable sin for Jarmo that the CBJ find themselves in this position.

 

[BluejacketNut]

Help me understand this:

Columbus is paying salary for a Horton, who will never play again, hence they'd prefer to pay someone who will play, even if its Clarkson?!



Is that what took place?

Yes, its pretty much choose your poison. Not the best way to build a cup contender

 

[NotWendell]

Most contracts aren't insured. Last update we had on the NHL's league-wide insurance program typically only the 5 biggest contracts on a team are insured. And even then the insurer can pro-actively deny future claims for a specific repeat injury. For example I doubt Pitt has Crosby's contract insured against a career-ending future concussion.

Horton's contract was our largest contract at the time.

 

[SladeWilson23]

If you guys have a good forechecking line, he'll work best there.

 

[CBJx614]

This is just one more reason the hockey gods are going to give us Mcdavid..

 

[JacketsDavid]

Holy hell, why wasn't that contract insured?

That's the key question is that a policy of the CBJ to not insure contracts? Was it an oversight?

Classic CBJ trade - our junk for your junk.

 

[NotWendell]

That's the key question is that a policy of the CBJ to not insure contracts? Was it an oversight?

Classic CBJ trade - our junk for your junk.

Only to be kicked in the junk.

 

[Fleury3434*]

Toronto makes wayyyyy more money than Columbus so they can afford to just pay Horton and keep him on LTIR. Sounds like you guys couldn't. Sorta sucks though cause now you are still paying a potato big money for the next couple years but this time it counts against the cap. I understand why Columbus had to do it, it's a ****** situation. It would be nice if Columbus management was making leaf money where they could just LTIR him and just pay him without a worry

 

[Subbanned]

Sorry BJ fans - no way to spin this one. Awful move for your on-ice product. Good move for obvious financial reasons.

 

[BluejacketNut]

Next couple years would be a dream, we got him for 5! Just think how much money we'll save when we dont have to resign Johansen

 

[jackets4life]

If you guys have a good forechecking line, he'll work best there.

Ha what's forechecking??

 

[CapnCornelius]

That's the key question is that a policy of the CBJ to not insure contracts? Was it an oversight?

Classic CBJ trade - our junk for your junk.

We insured Bryan Berard. Correction--idiot GM was wise enough to insure Bryan Berard. A player, like Horton, with an injury history.

For some reason, JD, Jarmo and the gang didn't think to do that with their most expensive, risky free agent acquisition. Just stellar.

 

[BluejacketNut]

The Capn's back. Now it gets interesting

 

[Drew311]

If you guys have a good forechecking line, he'll work best there.

Unless there is a skilled player on this line, expect only 5 - 10 goals from him.