Nashville Predators Hockey Talk 2023-2024 II

[Porter Stoutheart]

Hopefully, Brunette and Barry know what they really want in terms of d-men and their skills. It doesn't seem like the group as a whole in place now is what they are looking for and the results from top to bottom have been really ugly at times.

I think we'll see some churn on defense the next few seasons.

It sure seems like Del Gaizo and Stastney are ready. We know that Barrie is gone, one way or another. So just 1 other guy to “churn” out… who I’m still predicting to be Fabbro. Two RD out and two LD in isn’t the most ideal scenario, of course. But some guys can play off side (Lauzon, maybe McD or Josi) until things get straightened out.

 

[nine_inch_fang]

It sure seems like Del Gaizo and Stastney are ready. We know that Barrie is gone, one way or another. So just 1 other guy to “churn” out… who I’m still predicting to be Fabbro. Two RD out and two LD in isn’t the most ideal scenario, of course. But some guys can play off side (Lauzon, maybe McD or Josi) until things get straightened out.

Stastney and Josi would be playing right side in that scenario. Well, as long as Brunette could find it in himself to sit Schenn.

 

[Kat Predator]

It sure seems like Del Gaizo and Stastney are ready. We know that Barrie is gone, one way or another. So just 1 other guy to “churn” out… who I’m still predicting to be Fabbro. Two RD out and two LD in isn’t the most ideal scenario, of course. But some guys can play off side (Lauzon, maybe McD or Josi) until things get straightened out.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a larger bubble than that. Josi. McD. Schenn. They're probably going to be here a bit longer. Everyone else? Not so sure.

 

[SouthNash]

Forsberg did us proud!
3 goals!

 

[PredsV82]

Forsberg did us proud!
3 goals!

Yeah and 2 or 3 assists, but of course they name Matthews MVP even though he didn't score in game 1

Should have been FIL or DeBrincat

 

[Predsanddead24]

Some mention of lineup changes in the trade deadline thread so though I'd move discussion over here. Personally coming out of the break I'd like to start with:

Forsberg-O'Reilly-Tomasino
Nyquist-Novak-Evangelista
Trenin-Sissons-Smith
Afanasyev-Glass-Sherwood/Gurianov/McCarron

Two scoring lines, a shutdown line, and a younger player line you can try and give easier matchups too. You keep your two best forwards (Forsberg and O'Reilly) together and then hope Nyquist can elevate the play of Novak and Evangelista.

 

[herzausstein]

Ive been toying with the lineup in my mind and im not sure where to go with it. The are only 4 long term experienced veteran forwards. Do you break all 4 apart and assign them each their own line or do you keep RoR and Forsberg together and skimp on the 4th line vet?

Baseline
Forsberg-RoR- Tomasino/Evangelista
Nyquist - Novak - Evangelista/Tomasino
Trenin - Sissons - Afanaseyev
Smith - McCarron - Sherwood

Or

Trenin - RoR - Evangelista
Forsberg - Novak - Tomasino
Nyquist - glass - sherwood/Afanaseyev
Smith - Sissons - McCarron

Yeah someone would have to put alot more thought into then i did to get that to work out.

 

[Flgatorguy87]

I don't recall, but I know Trotz specifically mention pairing Glass with Nyquist in the offseason. Did they ever get much time together before the top line was in place?

I wonder if they'd give that another try at some point to see if that helps get Glass going...assuming they would even break up the top line.

 

[ShagDaddy]

The most recent conversations have been around moving Glass to wing to see if relieving some responsibility will help him get some confidence.

 

[Armourboy]

Ive been toying with the lineup in my mind and im not sure where to go with it. The are only 4 long term experienced veteran forwards. Do you break all 4 apart and assign them each their own line or do you keep RoR and Forsberg together and skimp on the 4th line vet?

Baseline
Forsberg-RoR- Tomasino/Evangelista
Nyquist - Novak - Evangelista/Tomasino
Trenin - Sissons - Afanaseyev
Smith - McCarron - Sherwood

Or

Trenin - RoR - Evangelista
Forsberg - Novak - Tomasino
Nyquist - glass - sherwood/Afanaseyev
Smith - Sissons - McCarron

Yeah someone would have to put alot more thought into then i did to get that to work out.

I'd take the first one, but swap out Sherwood for Glass, see if McCarron can't get another guy going like he kind of did with Tomasino. If he can't I'd just banish Glass to realm of done, whether that is with someone else or in the AHL.

 

[101st_fan]

My fear is that Bruno spent the break letting his good idea fairy whisper bad ideas in his ear and will come back only to outcoach himself some more. Barrie to PP1 is a bad idea ... Barrie and Schenn together is a terrible idea. With the way Glass is playing, putting him at center is misuse ... get him back into the flow at wing.

Trotz needs to figure out the Barrie trade before the deadline. Earlier is better. Bruno needs to decide if we're going Josi/McD or Josi/Fabbro as the top pair and run with it. PP2 needs a QB ... I'd say Lauzon based on recent offense (PP2 can't do much worse) but he'd try to hit everything including drink vendors in the upper bowl.

 

[herzausstein]

I'd take the first one, but swap out Sherwood for Glass, see if McCarron can't get another guy going like he kind of did with Tomasino. If he can't I'd just banish Glass to realm of done, whether that is with someone else or in the AHL.

Yeh i somehow forgot glass in both of them but noticed on the bottom one but not the top one.

 

[Predsanddead24]

I know it’s conventional wisdom to just move the struggling center to wing since it’s easier but I don’t like that decision for Glass. For one thing I don’t think that is necessarily true especially for a guy who has only played center at least for as long as he’s been with the Preds. We saw Parsinnen struggle when we moved him to wing and while there were other factors at play I think some of it is that he’s just a more natural center. Beyond that though ultimately we need Glass to be a center for this team and it’s time to sink or swim. So far it’s been a lot of sinking unfortunately.

 

[herzausstein]

I know it’s conventional wisdom to just move the struggling center to wing since it’s easier but I don’t like that decision for Glass. For one thing I don’t think that is necessarily true especially for a guy who has only played center at least for as long as he’s been with the Preds. We saw Parsinnen struggle when we moved him to wing and while there were other factors at play I think some of it is that he’s just a more natural center. Beyond that though ultimately we need Glass to be a center for this team and it’s time to sink or swim. So far it’s been a lot of sinking unfortunately.

Wasnt Brunette lamenting that he did Parsinnen a disservice by moving him to wing instead of leaving him at center?

 

[Armourboy]

I think Glass is done anyways so moving him to wing is just trying to see if you can salvage anything. Granted I think most of his problem is health, and I'm not sure moving to wing suddenly helps that.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

Wasnt Brunette lamenting that he did Parsinnen a disservice by moving him to wing instead of leaving him at center?

I'm not a fan of him "lamenting" that's for sure. If you think it's a disservice, coach... then don't do it. It's not like anybody is forcing his hand here. Maybe right at the start of the season when there was still some hope for Glass, but since Novak got hurt and Glass has struggled... there has been no excuse whatsoever for continuing this "disservice".

 

[nine_inch_fang]

I'm not a fan of him "lamenting" that's for sure. If you think it's a disservice, coach... then don't do it. It's not like anybody is forcing his hand here. Maybe right at the start of the season when there was still some hope for Glass, but since Novak got hurt and Glass has struggled... there has been no excuse whatsoever for continuing this "disservice".

He was just doing what "the whole NHL does" and what 99% of this board thought he should do.

Looking back at it being a mistake, at the least, instills hope that he won't do it again.

 

[Predsanddead24]

At least with Parssinen I think the rationale with moving him to wing was ok and it was the execution that was the problem. We had two center spots and three potential centers (Novak, Glass, and Parssinen) so something had to give. Brunette chose to move Parssinen and gave him the offseason to get acclimated there. I think the mistake was once things weren't working out with Parssinen at wing and Glass struggled at center he then wouldn't commit to what he wanted to do with Parsinnen. That resulted in Parssinen bouncing around the lineup and between playing center and wing, which isn't a great environment to put a young player in.

As far as Glass now it seems like moving him to wing would be a desperation move in hopes that since wing is "easier" that maybe he can get going there rather than any sort of calculated plan. However, while I do think it is easier for a center to switch to wing than a wing to switch to center I don't think that means that any the center will do better at wing. For example, while there is less defensive responsibility on the wing things like making breakout plays on the half wall aren't easy plays especially if you haven't practiced doing that for several years as is the case for Glass.

 

[herzausstein]

Is it Saturday yet?

 

[triggrman]

At least with Parssinen I think the rationale with moving him to wing was ok and it was the execution that was the problem. We had two center spots and three potential centers (Novak, Glass, and Parssinen) so something had to give. Brunette chose to move Parssinen and gave him the offseason to get acclimated there. I think the mistake was once things weren't working out with Parssinen at wing and Glass struggled at center he then wouldn't commit to what he wanted to do with Parsinnen. That resulted in Parssinen bouncing around the lineup and between playing center and wing, which isn't a great environment to put a young player in.

As far as Glass now it seems like moving him to wing would be a desperation move in hopes that since wing is "easier" that maybe he can get going there rather than any sort of calculated plan. However, while I do think it is easier for a center to switch to wing than a wing to switch to center I don't think that means that any the center will do better at wing. For example, while there is less defensive responsibility on the wing things like making breakout plays on the half wall aren't easy plays especially if you haven't practiced doing that for several years as is the case for Glass.

I'd say on most breakouts, centers on our team end up in the same spot as the wingers with the way Josi skates out of the zone.

 

[101st_fan]

So tonight we get to see how the team comes back from a ten day break where only one player participated in the ASG. Which extreme do we see? (It is theoretically possible that the team doesn't come out flat as it has after damned near every break over the last quarter century)

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

So tonight we get to see how the team comes back from a ten day break where only one player participated in the ASG. Which extreme do we see? (It is theoretically possible that the team doesn't come out flat as it has after damned near every break over the last quarter century)

Being against the Yotes I'd be shocked if it isn't a completely, infuriatingly flat performance that spawns at least two "sell," "tank," or "trade everyone" threads

 

[Mike C]

greetings,

islanders fan and HUGE barry trotz guy here coming to see if you guys have heard anything on the status of carrier for tonight's game. i have him in fantasy league!!


thanks!

 

[Armourboy]

greetings,

islanders fan and HUGE barry trotz guy here coming to see if you guys have heard anything on the status of carrier for tonight's game. i have him in fantasy league!!


thanks!

As usual with the Preds no one will know until game time. 99% of the time this will always be the answer.

 

[Kat Predator]

As usual with the Preds no one will know until game time. 99% of the time this will always be the answer.

True. They don't even tell their own media people until warm ups.