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Scoresberg

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Slice it however you want but Novak is clearly the 3rd most offensively gifted forward on this team.

Whether he's a part of the long-term plan for this team remains to be seen.
 

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Slice it however you want but Novak is clearly the 3rd most offensively gifted forward on this team.

Whether he's a part of the long-term plan for this team remains to be seen.
Not sure I agree with using the term gifted when you compare where Tomasino and Evangelista are developmentally compared to Novak at the same age. However, Novak very well may be the third best forward on the team right now though although I’d assume that’ll be a hot take for many to have him above Nyquist.

To the broader point about keeping/moving Novak I see no reason not to re-sign him even if it takes a bit of an “overpay”. We’ve got tons of cap space even with the dead cap hits so why not use it even if the signing is a bit risky.
 

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Evangelista, Sherwood, and Tomasino all got to sit in the doghouse last night with about 8 mins on ice each. We talk about young talent but Brunette chose to basically play a line short and double shift the top line. He obviously lacks trust in them (between he statements on tomasino and his actions)
 

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Evangelista, Sherwood, and Tomasino all got to sit in the doghouse last night with about 8 mins on ice each. We talk about young talent but Brunette chose to basically play a line short and double shift the top line. He obviously lacks trust in them (between he statements on tomasino and his actions)
I have a feeling One of Tomasino , Parsinnen or Evangelista will be dealt
 

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Evangelista, Sherwood, and Tomasino all got to sit in the doghouse last night with about 8 mins on ice each. We talk about young talent but Brunette chose to basically play a line short and double shift the top line. He obviously lacks trust in them (between he statements on tomasino and his actions)
How much is doghouse and how much was just a weird flow to a game with 11 penalties resulting in numerous 4on4 followed by the bench shortening in the 3rd to tie it back up? Sherwood was caught out for most of the second period. Vange had only 3 shifts in the 3rd. Tomasino did get sat with just one third period shift ... that coming between the two Yotes goals that period.
 

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How much is doghouse and how much was just a weird flow to a game with 11 penalties resulting in numerous 4on4 followed by the bench shortening in the 3rd to tie it back up? Sherwood was caught out for most of the second period. Vange had only 3 shifts in the 3rd. Tomasino did get sat with just one third period shift ... that coming between the two Yotes goals that period.
If it was due to special teams and them not being part of the PK, you'd think they would've been out there alot more in the 3rd period since there were only 2 penalties there and they were almost offsetting. The 2nd was a penalty fest so them having almost no shifts in the 3rd is something more towards how they were playing and trust (personal opinion)

Edit: misread your statement. Makes more sense now. But they werent on the same line.so why those players in that particular combination while the other linemates go unscathed?
 
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If it was due to special teams and them not being part of the PK, you'd think they would've been out there alot more in the 3rd period since there were only 2 penalties there and they were almost offsetting. The 2nd was a penalty fest so them having almost no shifts in the 3rd is something more towards how they were playing and trust (personal opinion)

Edit: misread your statement. Makes more sense now. But they werent on the same line.so why those players in that particular combination while the other linemates go unscathed?

Bruno was trying to mix and match a little going into the 3rd to get things going. Glass with Forberg for a while ... then with Smith and Trenin. There were a few shifts of Novak, Sissons, Nyquist. Tomasino ended up being the one shuffled out.

If we see Tomasino out for a couple of games then its safe to say he slid to the doghouse. One period of Bruno moving people around is too small of a sample with how he handles ice time within a game.
 

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Bruno was trying to mix and match a little going into the 3rd to get things going. Glass with Forberg for a while ... then with Smith and Trenin. There were a few shifts of Novak, Sissons, Nyquist. Tomasino ended up being the one shuffled out.

If we see Tomasino out for a couple of games then its safe to say he slid to the doghouse. One period of Bruno moving people around is too small of a sample with how he handles ice time within a game.
Between the Coyotes' 2nd and 4th goals, Tomasino had 1 shift. He wasn't on the ice for any of those goals. But that one shift was his last of the game.

He certainly looks to be on the Kevin Fiala conveyor belt out the door.
 

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Between the Coyotes' 2nd and 4th goals, Tomasino had 1 shift. He wasn't on the ice for any of those goals. But that one shift was his last of the game.

He certainly looks to be on the Kevin Fiala conveyor belt out the door.
I don't know if it's that, or that this was just really a game we could not afford to lose and Bruno treated it like a playoff game and shortened the bench
 

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Probably a stylistic choice to shortbench and skip over the 7th and 8th leading point producers for the team when you are behind (after all you are double shifting forsberg, Nyquist, and ror who are 1, 4, and 3) and keep the more experienced defensively sound (or confident) to a minimum unchanged.
 

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Between the Coyotes' 2nd and 4th goals, Tomasino had 1 shift. He wasn't on the ice for any of those goals. But that one shift was his last of the game.

He certainly looks to be on the Kevin Fiala conveyor belt out the door.


After their 4th goal, Forsberg played 8 shifts in remainder of the 3rd period. The jumping to conclusions about Tomasino's future is interesting when the more plausible concept is the staff shortened the bench to put the top scorers out 8 times in 16 minutes.
 

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I don't know if it's that, or that this was just really a game we could not afford to lose and Bruno treated it like a playoff game and shortened the bench
I think he was the only one who never saw another shift, and he's supposed to bring something to the table offensively.

At any rate, I meant "looks" as in "one might want to argue". Not as a statement of fact. It's not at all clear Brunette really sees a fit for him at this point. Things obviously change and this is but one game, so not going to take anything to the bank. :)
 

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After their 4th goal, Forsberg played 8 shifts in remainder of the 3rd period. The jumping to conclusions about Tomasino's future is interesting when the more plausible concept is the staff shortened the bench to put the top scorers out 8 times in 16 minutes.
It's more during the time that forsberg wasnt out there, he chose to go soley with the trenin, smith, McCarron, etc style players. But the more time ive thought about it, the more ive come to think that this is probably more of a stylistic type pound and grind choice with the shortening of the the bench vs the speed and finesse of Evangelista/Tomasino though. McCarron/Trenin actually have almost the exact same amount of goals as Evangelista/Tomasino and Smith is a better player than Sherwood.
 

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Well that's one hell of a doghouse kick. Seriously Brunette you have you be effing with Tomasino's confidence at this point. Your press conference comments, constantly jerking around the lineup, supershort leash in lineup, and now boot him down to Milwaukee.

Maybe it'll be good for his development in the longrun but the whole 2nd line or 4th line thing is tiring.
 
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