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Canada's WJC team was much older than all other teams, that highlighted their physical dominance.
 
wassup77 said:
Hehe, I know. That didn't sound very good. But hey! there is a reason why Nash didn't get suspended (because he shouldn't).

If Nash whould have used violence it whould have been another story. :rant:
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any other sport if you touch an officialk you are tossed and suspended.
 
Pepper said:
Canada's WJC team was much older than all other teams, that highlighted their physical dominance.
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Yeah all those 30 year olds really gave us the edge .
 
Pepper said:
Van, you should know that closing a hand on the puck is *NOT* the same as throwing the puck (you just can't pick it up and throw it).
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You can't throw a puck without closing your hand on it. That's just common sense.

You can bat the puck to a teammate within your own zone.
 
Van said:
You can't throw a puck without closing your hand on it. That's just common sense.
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In hockey you can, unless you want to start arguing about semantics what's throwing and what's not. Several times players scoop the puck from the air, throw it few steps further and skate after it.
 
Egil said:
(you can't have abuse of official if the official doesn't considered himself abused).
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:biglaugh:

Amazing how some fan sitting on his couch is far more concerned than the ref who was actually...ummm... 'victimized'?

Folks, if it was really a big deal then the ref would have mentioned it in his game report...
 
Van said:
You can bat the puck to a teammate within your own zone.
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No you cant, then they blow the whistle and you get a face-off.

You can however throw the puck out of your own zone as long as it does not end to your teammate. And no, you cant close your hand on the puck, but at least I can throw things without closing my hand...some disabled people might not be able to.
 
nikki9 said:
You're all just mad, cause he's a threat to other teams and he's still playing, haha!!!! We still got Nash!!!
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Considering the majority of the people in this thread ripping the IIHF's decision are Canadian, and Canadian supporters, your post has no basis.
 
I agree he should have got a game but not kicked out of the tourney. I just knew he would score in this game, surprised it was the GWG. Oh well maybe the IIHF will learn from it's mistakes and this won't happen again.

Some of you are making a bigger deal out of this for obvious reasons but remember it's not like he hurt anyone. He just shoved a lineman a little. If it was that bad I think the linesman would've filed a complaint.
 
syc said:
I agree he should have got a game but not kicked out of the tourney. I just knew he would score in this game, surprised it was the GWG. Oh well maybe the IIHF will learn from it's mistakes and this won't happen again.

Some of you are making a bigger deal out of this for obvious reasons but remember it's not like he hurt anyone. He just shoved a lineman a little. If it was that bad I think the linesman would've filed a complaint.
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Shoved a linesman a little? Don't forget the two hooks to the ref.

Last season in a game against Nashville, Steve Yzerman acrued 34 PIMs and an ejection on two 2min unsportsmanlike conducts, two 10min misconducts, and one 10min game misconduct. Stevie never touched an official.

Didn't Roenick get a suspension for tossing a water bottle at a ref?

I would have considered him lucky to get off with only one game. It boggles the mind how he got off scott free. The IIHF needs to open its eyes.
 
If i was PM and someone from canada critisized Nasher ide have them arrested and executed that very same day .
 
With a name like Psycho Joe ide think youd love my swift justice policies .
 
I guess you wont like my solution to feeding the worlds poor ..all i can say is ..homeless+ squigee kids = soylent green.
 
psycho_dad said:
No you cant, then they blow the whistle and you get a face-off.
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As mentioned, hand passes are permitted within your defensive zone. If you pass the puck with your hand from inside your defensive zone to a teammate who is outside the defensive zone, THEN it gets whistled down.

psycho_dad said:
And no, you cant close your hand on the puck, but at least I can throw things without closing my hand...some disabled people might not be able to.
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In hockey, if you leave your hand open, that is batting the puck with your hand. Throwing the puck involves closing your hand on the puck.


syc said:
Some of you are making a bigger deal out of this for obvious reasons but remember it's not like he hurt anyone. He just shoved a lineman a little. If it was that bad I think the linesman would've filed a complaint.
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This is the exact attitude that needs to be changed. If we allow this, where is the line drawn with intentional physical contact with officials?
 
Boucicaut said:
Wrong. Lots of people had seen the incident LIVE. Finns and Swedes reported seeing it and they get a different feed than TSN apparently. Now, if you look at the beginning of the thread, you'll see that many of those making comments were from those two countries. The fact that you had not seen the tape at that point doesn't mean that others had not seen it.
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I didn't say that others hadn't seen it - don't put words in my mouth. I said that most commenting had not seen it but were judging on the picture alone. When you read posts like "look at the picture, he deserves the tournament!" that is what I was talking about.

Get a clue.
 
FLYLine4LIFE said:
Yes you can, hand passes are allowed in your defensive zone.
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A hand pass can only be made by a defending team within its own zone. In other words, you can't make a hand pass into the neutral zone.
 
Amazing how history tends to repeat itself.

Canada is just a hockey winning machine. (It's amazing that they aren't better at other team sports.) They always finds ways to create that "oh, everybody hates us now. Let's stick together and win this tournament (eventhough we've played way below our standards) and show them all who invented this game once and for all" - feeling.

If they aren't rallying around some team building experince they reinvent their hockey and play a disciplined highly defensive game and win that way like in 2003.

oh, and it should have been a suspention, but iihf is financed to a great deal through the WCH and won't risk any conflict with any player on the NA market. The potential TV money is not peanuts by iihf's standards.

Is anyone really surprised that the russian ref missed that call, even if he was the one getting hooked?

Now I'm certain that Canada will win once again



Matty said:
:biglaugh:

Amazing how some fan sitting on his couch is far more concerned than the ref who was actually...ummm... 'victimized'?

Folks, if it was really a big deal then the ref would have mentioned it in his game report...
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Salming said:
Amazing how history tends to repeat itself.

Canada is just a hockey winning machine. (It's amazing that they aren't better at other team sports.) They always finds ways to create that "oh, everybody hates us now. Let's stick together and win this tournament (eventhough we've played way below our standards) and show them all who invented this game once and for all" - feeling.

If they aren't rallying around some team building experince they reinvent their hockey and play a disciplined highly defensive game and win that way like in 2003.

oh, and it should have been a suspention, but iihf is financed to a great deal through the WCH and won't risk any conflict with any player on the NA market. The potential TV money is not peanuts by iihf's standards.

Is anyone really surprised that the russian ref missed that call, even if he was the one getting hooked?

Now I'm certain that Canada will win once again
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Let me guess ..huge JFK conspiracy type guy eh .
Man you figured it out ..Canada runs everything ...we have the power!!!!Now our CGB will find you and kill you because you have exposed the truth .
 
Ola said:
If you lost respect of Sweden you obviously haven't followed this or any other WCH that closely. Canada have more power then any other hockey nation. They have leverege. The WC isn't "optional" for any other team. It is for Canada, and they generates allot of money for the IIHF.

Canada takes their tactics they are used to from the Stanley Cup to the WCH. When it comes to warfare they are second to none. They complain about the refs loudly after every game they loose, every penalty was a conspiracy against Canada ect. Its strange that Gretzky got allot of attention his comments in the Olympiques because stuff like that is all you hear from the Canadian manegment in these tournaments, after every game. In the Nagano games in 98´ before Ulf Samuelsson was thrown out because of passport trouble their was a emergancy meeting with delegates from the involved countrys. Guess what country said that they would go to court if Ulf where allowed to play?

I don't think its necessary anything wrong with this. I don't live in a world where I belive that Sweden wouldn't use its power if they had any. Its a competetive game and you try to get every advantage possible.

But when Sweden filed a complaint against Nash they knew that he wasn't gooing to get suspended. Any other player from any other country would, but Canadian players don't get suspended in a WCH. I love the comment from the Japanse guys who was assigned to review the case, "I've seen it several times and it wasn't intentional".

What Sweden wished to accomplish was that sooner or later Canada will run out of favors...
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Check out this video clip:
http://www3.sympatico.ca/thuynh/Jagr_refpushSLC-1.wmv

Please tell me that Jagr got suspended for that or at least confirm that Sweden sent a complaint. If nobody did anything, than you are hypocrites.
 
Van said:
In hockey, if you leave your hand open, that is batting the puck with your hand. Throwing the puck involves closing your hand on the puck.
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So we agree on the basics, but you really want to split hairs and discuss what you consider throwing and what not? You know what I mean, and you know you can do that by the rules, so why are we still talking about this?
 
Captain Leaf said:
Let me guess ..huge JFK conspiracy type guy eh .
Man you figured it out ..Canada runs everything ...we have the power!!!!Now our CGB will find you and kill you because you have exposed the truth .
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I'm not talking about a conspiracy. It's mechanism which is inherent in all profit driven organisations. It's got more to do with iihf than Canada.
 
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