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Muzzin taketh, and he giveth away. Kings lose to FLA 3-2

Assuming this team misses the playoffs, I just can't get that riled up about it.

It's just not that big of a deal IMO. I sort of expected a letdown this year. The Kings 13-14 season may have been the most grueling exhaustive season by any team in pro sports history. What could we really expect as a follow up?

I think there's a lot of over reaction in this thread too. We're in a bit of a bind yes, but saying "the ship has sailed" ect. is laughable. This is going to be a competitive team for a very long time.

A four year span with 3 WCF appearances, 2 cups, and a let down season. I'll take it.
 
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johnjm22 said:
Assuming this team misses the playoffs, I just can't get that riled up about it.

It's just not that big of a deal IMO. I sort of expected a letdown this year. The Kings 13-14 season may have been the most grueling exhaustive season by any team in pro sports history. What could we really expect as a follow up?

I think there's a lot of over reaction in this thread too. We're in a bit of a bind yes, but saying "the ship has sailed" ect. is laughable. This is going to be a competitive team for a very long time.

A four year span with 3 WCF appearances, 2 cups, and a let down season. I'll take it.
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I think that's fair to say. However, I think the major concerns here are all the question marks. What comes of Mike Richards albatross? Does Dustin Brown EVER score 20 goals again? Is this what Kopitar looks like heading into his later prime? Is Voynov a deported felon in six months?

A lot of question marks. Considering this team's bipolar nature, it's frustrating. They've cake walked through regular seasons for years now and it finally caught up to them.
 
I think a full summer's rest would do wonders for this team. But at the same time the salary cap could force some potentially significant roster changes, not to mention we don't know if Voynov will be back or not.
 
The Kings have played in 21 games where they've given up 25 shots or less. They are 6-11-4 in those games, and have given up 60 goals on 434 shots, for a .862sv%. That's an average of 20.7 shots per game, and 2.86 goals per game.
 
KingsFan7824 said:
The Kings have played in 21 games where they've given up 25 shots or less. They are 6-11-4 in those games, and have given up 60 goals on 434 shots, for a .862sv%. That's an average of 20.7 shots per game, and 2.86 goals per game.
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I know Quick hasn't been to blame for much of this disaster season, but SOME of that has to fall on him. That's atrocious. Few teams should have a losing record when holding teams to 25 shots or less.
 
Richie10 said:
I know Quick hasn't been to blame for much of this disaster season, but SOME of that has to fall on him. That's atrocious. Few teams should have a losing record when holding teams to 25 shots or less.
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yeah that's exactly what i've been saying! Quick has been garbage this year

and he Quick Apologist will say...but our defence...

yes, but where's that save? where's the bail out? All good goalies have a few of those games under their belts each season

Quick has none

if he'd given us 4-5 game changing saves that would have been 8-10pts in the standings just there alone
 
Richie10 said:
I know Quick hasn't been to blame for much of this disaster season, but SOME of that has to fall on him. That's atrocious. Few teams should have a losing record when holding teams to 25 shots or less.
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Yeah, there's no one thing that contributes to a season like the Kings are having. The players in front of Quick are doing things like what Muzzin did last night, and Quick isn't coming up with that extra save that he usually gets(or, he's having to make too many of those saves, and he's only human). So instead of only one of those things happening, it's consistently both, and the Kings are giving up 3 goals instead of 2. Which means they have to score 4 to win, which is a challenge.
 
Richie10 said:
I know Quick hasn't been to blame for much of this disaster season, but SOME of that has to fall on him. That's atrocious. Few teams should have a losing record when holding teams to 25 shots or less.
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Shot amount =/= to shot quality and that's not me being an apologist about it that's me being realistic. Sure we limited the Panthers shots last night; they also had 3 odd-man breaks in the first period alone. I can't even say with certainty that Edmonton's goalies face the same breakdowns anymore. At least they get peppered with 30-50 shots to stay warm between breakaways!

Agreed in general that we need one more save and that third goal was suck on everyone INCLUDING Quick.
 
DocWest said:
That's what's killing me. I never expected them to repeat this year. I would be more than happy with a 1st or 2nd round exit. But this? This **** on the ice?!? **** that nonsense.
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How can that be? They just won 2 of the last 3 Cups, in pretty convincing fashion.

I fully expected them to repeat.

I at least expected them to win the division for a change as well.
 
Originally Posted by AKAY47

Lombardi's first round drafting hasn't been the great. I've said this before and I'll say it again: Derek Forbort's slow development has really daunted this organization. He's someone I'm sure the Kings would love to have up here instead of Jamie McBain and Brayden McNabb. Sheesh, he's entering bust territory.


hawkeyexp said:
ehh, developing college players isn't as fast as say a junior League. I'd except to see Forbort get minutes next year. No need to rush him. Yes gonna be a very good player.
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Forbort has been playing well at Manchester, and probably deserves his shot. He's in the top 10 in the AHL in plus minus, and sure, he does not put up many points, but he seems to handle AHL play rather easily. Not saying it would translate, but we won't know unless we see it. I don't think he's any where near bust territory, and i think other teams would love to have him. Should he have been 15th overall? Maybe not. But if he were a second or third we'd feel like we got a bargain. Is Forbort better than McBain or McNabb? I would say at this point that defensively he will be. Offensively, he could still be somewhat of a sleeper, but doubtful. He does break up plays very well with his skating and long reach, and is only physical when he needs to be. He seems to concentrate on his positioning, and doesn't go for hits that might take him out of position. He makes good first passes, and because of his skating, doesn't get caught eating the puck. He certainly tries to avoid eating the puck, unlike McNabb who seems to go into eat mode almost every time he touches it. I don't think the development has as much to do with college as much as it has to do with a young 6'5" 18 year old kid growing into his body, and getting much stronger. It took some time. I agree there is no rush in his progression, but I do think the Kings should start playing him in some games. Especially next year while in Ontario. He still won't have to clear waivers next year also, so even next year he can play in both places to get his minutes in. Also, Miller won't have to clear waivers also, and the Kings need to be thinking about him this way too. He does a lot of things well, and can really shoot. Winning the AHL shot comp doesn't really mean anything. You get a running start at the puck. However, Miller skates so well, and his ability to change angles, get shots through, and still get off very hard shots is impressive. For both these kids, it'll be hard not seeing them in a Kings uniform soon with how the rest of the D have looked.
 
Forbort would've been up with most teams already. He's gotten stuck in the defensive logjam of log years past. He'll be called up at some point this season.
 
Face Wash said:
I'm already waiting for the draft. Problem is the waiting is the hardest part.

#morepettyhumor
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My advice: have a last dance with Mary Jane while you are waiting. It will help you kill the pain of this season.
 
I bet they lose the game on Saturday too. This team has no hunger at all. It's awful to watch from a group that is expected to be in the Playofffs. Our team didn't start out that different and they've been losing all year long. We got to the WCF without WM a couple of years ago, so he's not the magic playoff magician that we are missing.

I'm also tired of all the excuses. Detroit hasn't missed the Playoffs in decades. Chicago blew up their Cup winning team and still made the Playoffs. I don't want to hear any excuses from them. Muzzin's turnover last night is exactly what is wrong with this team. He didn't care and wanted the puck to be somebody else's problem. Disgusting.
 
Butch 19 said:
How can that be? They just won 2 of the last 3 Cups, in pretty convincing fashion.

I fully expected them to repeat.

I at least expected them to win the division for a change as well.
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Well, 2012 was convincing. Last year was a struggle.

Can't say I expected a repeat(because it's not easy), but I did expect being in the mix. Didn't think they'd win the division, as there was just zero motivation to do so. Both Anaheim and SJ had more reason to have really good regular seasons.

6th best home record in the league.
6-3-1 at home against the East.
10-3-5 at home against the West.
4-4-4 on the road against the West.

That's 20-10-10. 50 points in 40 games, 1.25 points per game. Over 82 games, that's 102.5 points, which should be good enough to make the playoffs.

1-8-2 on the road against the East. 4 of a possible 22 points so far.

Non-EN/SO goals for:

R against the Central: 16 goals in 5 games, 3.20 per game
H against the Central: 27 goals in 9 games, 3.00 per game
H against the Pacific: 27 goals in 9 games, 3.00 per game
R against the Pacific: 19 goals in 7 games, 2.71 per game
H against the Metro: 16 goals in 6 games, 2.67 per game
H against the Atlantic: 9 goals in 4 games, 2.25 per game
R against the Atlantic: 14 goals in 7 games, 2.00 per game
R against the Metro: 4 goals in 4 games, 1.00 per game

Non-EN/SO goals against:

H against the Atlantic: 2 goals in 4 games, .50 per game
H against the Pacific: 19 goals in 9 games, 2.11 per game
R against the Pacific: 17 goals in 7 games, 2.43 per game
R against the Central: 13 goals in 5 games, 2.60 per game
H against the Metro: 16 goals in 6 games, 2.67 per game
H against the Central: 25 goals in 9 games, 2.78 per game
R against the Atlantic: 22 goals in 7 games, 3.14 per game
R against the Metro: 13 goals in 4 games, 3.25 per game

I'd love to know what is happening in the eastern time zone with the Kings. Scoring the fewest goals per game, giving up the most goals per game. Maybe it's the travel, I don't know.
 
Repeating was not happening the second Voynov was arrested. Too much talent in the WC with teams getting better while the Kings got worse in the summer.

Missing the playoffs and losing games the way they are losing them is embarrassing though. Champs to a bad team in one season.

Still, more worried about the next season and so forth. Feel like last summer's decisions and Voynov really damaged the window.
 
KingPuckChoo said:
yeah that's exactly what i've been saying! Quick has been garbage this year

and he Quick Apologist will say...but our defence...

yes, but where's that save? where's the bail out? All good goalies have a few of those games under their belts each season

Quick has none

if he'd given us 4-5 game changing saves that would have been 8-10pts in the standings just there alone
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first month of the season Quick was lights out. Looked like he would be in the running for the vezna. Without that first month LA would be further out of it.
The last two month's he has been terrible. Very average at best.
So in other words Quick is to blame for us not being in on McDAvid (first month) and not being in the playoffs (last two months).

Been a whole team let down from top to bottom. I am trying to look for silver linings. One maybe that Kopitar's value has diminished so maybe he can be re-signed for less.
 
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