Post-Game Talk: Musik

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Laffy Zibs Kakko
Panarin Tro Kravtsov
Kreider Chytil Vesey
Blais Goodrow Gauthier

I'd like to have Brodz in the lineup, but I know Gallant wont play him at fullstrength over Blais or Gauthier

Gallant is obsessed with Blais. I think he sees a lot of himself in him. He had him out there in the final seconds trying to get him an empty netter

No doubt we need Blais to get going but Kakko earned to play that last minute. Jesus

 

[hackeyman]

Also, let’s get rid of the very popular “you all know more than our head coach from your couch” sarcasm. How many people wanted this first line? How many were screaming for a change? We’ve been awful since he made the changes he made in the first place. I have no confidence in him to not screw this up again the first chance he gets. If the GG fans are honest, they feel the same way.

I just think there are more things behind the scenes that influenced things. I think Turk was going to be damned if he did..........but got pushed in a corner . Let's hope it keeps working.

 

[ajdj10]

It would be so Gallant to start next game with Kreider-Mika-Vesey

And to scratch Kakko.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

You're usually so positive after a win.

I'm usually positive win or lose, but this team has broken me this year, lol. Most disappointing Ranger team in recent memory given expectations.

 

[TheGortonConspiracy]

 

[Kocur26]

I'm usually positive win or lose, but this team has broken me this year, lol. Most disappointing Ranger team in recent memory given expectations.

Agreed

 

[TheDirtyH]

I admit that I fist pumped when Kreider got that shorty.

Comeback win? Have we done that this year yet?

Not feeling too different about the team writ large, but feels good to win. Maybe they'll start to turn this around—for me that all comes down to Igor.

 

[IronBloodedLion]

I think Mika cares a lot and plays hard. He’s just a different personality. He’s kinda introverted, laidback, and artsy. Not typical of what you see in a professional athlete.

 

[Rangers in 7]

Who had laf-zib-Kakko as a line working on their bingo card? Oo wait pretty much any of the competent posters on this board

So do we still want to trade laf and kakko? Some of you are so short sighted you’d cut off your own noses to spite your face. The idiom is a little off but you get my point

 

[Clark Kellogg]

MSG Post Game Show Highlights and Commentary:

 

[egelband]

Kakko so messed up in his head right now he refuses to eat cereal made by the Post company

You reckon he's not even buying stamps anymore, too?

 

[egelband]

This is where Gallant needs to put his foot down with these guys. They play with who he tells them to play with.

Kreider still made a big play with that short handed goal. These guys need to play for the team, not just themselves and their buddies.

Kreider had the gas in the tank because he played less and played an appropriate role. Maybe?

 

[egelband]

Count me in on Tarasenko as a deadline move if we start to play ourselves back into. Seems like a guy who would be very useful and maybe get Panarin going

I'd just assume leave the roster as-is. Not saying it's perfect but the guess they have need to figure this out and be waiting for reinforcements. Of course if they turn things around it's fine to add but we're pretty far from that point.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

Thanks Dad

 

[Kocur26]

I’d like that but trollcrusher stole my like button

 

[bleedblue94]

Laffy Zibs Kakko
Panarin Tro Kravtsov
Kreider Chytil Vesey
Blais Goodrow Gauthier

I'd like to have Brodz in the lineup, but I know Gallant wont play him at fullstrength over Blais or Gauthier

I think there's two left-wingers there that need to be flipped. Or two centers. I just don't think Vinny and bread work. I think that's more on bread than it is Vinny though. I actually really like Vinny's game, and I actually really despise breads because he's so damn skilled but plays his way out of it

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

In fairness to Blais, idk why Vesey is curling back there. Vesey is constantly curling back like that when it's not the right play.

 

[egelband]

I think Mika cares a lot and plays hard. He’s just a different personality. He’s kinda introverted, laidback, and artsy. Not typical of what you see in a professional athlete.

Yep. And I would add that Panarin and Kreider, for all the flak they (deservedly) get, are not trying to sink the ship. I don't buy the idea that any of them are angry or sad about not being captain or their "friends" traded. They're just playing crappy.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

I'm usually positive win or lose, but this team has broken me this year, lol. Most disappointing Ranger team in recent memory given expectations.

This last month or so has been very frustrating and disjointed but I really think if Laf and Kakko can stick with Zibanejad it will elevate the whole lineup. I still think the talent is there for this to be a good team. We need Igor to get back to his usual self and an upgrade at 3LD. It really hinges on Laf and Kakko being major contributors so I hope Gallant will actually give them a long leash with Mika and not revert back to the crap that clearly wasn't working.

Lafreniere-Zibanejad-Kakko
Panarin-Chytil-Kravtsov
Kreider-Trocheck-Vesey
Blais-Goodrow-Gauthier

Give these lines a legitimate shot to gel and stick together.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

Yep. And I would add that Panarin and Kreider, for all the flak they (deservedly) get, are not trying to sink the ship. I don't buy the idea that any of them are angry or sad about not being captain or their "friends" traded. They're just playing crappy.

Agreed. And they very clearly put tons of pressure on themselves. Most noticeable over the past few weeks has been flubbed pucks, missed passes, mental mistakes. All signs of players who are gripping their sticks too tight because they're frustrated and feeling the pressure and sort of trying too hard to make something happen instead of just playing their game. Getting some wins and some positive vibes can be a big change for the players. Start feeling good about their games and get some wins to reinforce it. It's really frustrating for us to watch them hit the post and flub chances and lose games they should win, imaging how frustrating it is for the players themselves.

 

[egelband]

"Upper body. Day to day".

This last month or so has been very frustrating and disjointed but I really think if Laf and Kakko can stick with Zibanejad it will elevate the whole lineup. I still think the talent is there for this to be a good team. We need Igor to get back to his usual self and an upgrade at 3LD. It really hinges on Laf and Kakko being major contributors so I hope Gallant will actually give them a long leash with Mika and not revert back to the crap that clearly wasn't working.

Lafreniere-Zibanejad-Kakko
Panarin-Chytil-Kravtsov
Kreider-Trocheck-Vesey
Blais-Goodrow-Gauthier

Give these lines a legitimate shot to gel and stick together.

Looks good. I forgot Chytil is out, too. How about swapping Gauthier and Vesey?

 

[TopShelfSnipes]

In fairness to Blais, idk why Vesey is curling back there. Vesey is constantly curling back like that when it's not the right play.

And that's why he has no business anywhere near a top line, ever again.

I want Drury and Gallant to sign riders to their contract that if Vesey so much as sniffs PP time with anything less than a 4 goal lead, or if he plays more than 17 minutes in a regular season game, or if he is on the same line as any 2 players who are in the top 10 in team scoring, they agree to be terminated for cause and forfeit the rest of their conracts.

Kids looked better today, other than Laf's offensive zone penalty. But I'd gladly take that over the nondevelopment of someone else in that spot. Great deflection. Ironically, when Lafreniere becomes MORE aggressive, I think he'll take fewer offensive zone penalties - most now are careless stick fouls and holdings from trying to get position vs. finishing his checks consistently. It was good to see Laffy smiling again. Trouba also looked like he enjoyed that one. Kakko is the only player in the NHL who can simultaneously score 0 goals and almost have a hat trick the same night. Still, he looked better than he has in weeks on Zibanejad's wing and I hope he can stay there this time. Like, for the rest of the season.

Kravtsov continues to impress me with his play away from the puck when his team has possession. Trocheck had a great scoring chance that Kravtsov helped create simply by taking two defenders with him to the net which allowed Panarin to find Trocheck in the high slot cutting towards the net. A less aware forward turns to face the play and skates backwards down into the corner to provide a "safe" passing option for Panarin there, which only pulls one defender, and Trocheck doesn't get that opportunity. Also, for everyone who still thinks Kravtsov is soft, the effort is there. In the first, a forward took some whacks at Shesty and he went in on him with the roughing and the headlocks. Good to see he's willing to stand up for a teammate.

Amazing how moving players around the lines seemed to energize the play. Now maybe let's leave them there because the previous lines were not working.

Shesty was brutal tonight, but Binnington was worse. Surprised Trouba didn't try and bomb one in on him from the redline to break the goose egg in the goal column the way he was letting them in.

We are probably the worst team in the NHL at scoring in empty nets when the other team pulls their goalie.

 

[bleedblue94]

In fairness to Blais, idk why Vesey is curling back there. Vesey is constantly curling back like that when it's not the right play.

Vesey trying to do that Gretzky curl at the top of the circle. Just so hard to watch that garbage.

 

[Boris Zubov]

Who had laf-zib-Kakko as a line working on their bingo card? Oo wait pretty much any of the competent posters on this board

So do we still want to trade laf and kakko? Some of you are so short sighted you’d cut off your own noses to spite your face. The idiom is a little off but you get my point

I get your point, but it's a little too soon for all the victory laps you've taken tonight. The criticism of the kids has been valid.

Not everyone wants to trade them, but we all want them to play better than they have. Kakko at some point needs to start showing dividends for all his hard work. Bottom line is the team needs these kids to produce, showing potential isn't enough anymore.

 

[TopShelfSnipes]

Vesey trying to do that Gretzky curl at the top of the circle. Just so hard to watch that garbage.

He does stuff like that every game, but with the turning radius of a barge. I'm glad other people are finally starting to speak up about it though. It's been infuriating watching this kind of crap the last 10 games, but if he gets a shot off, it's always "oh well at least he shoots the puck" or "but his defense though" or "but he plays with grit."

Every time he gets a cross ice pass, he insists on cradling the puck or going backhand-forehand rather than just snapping it on the fly.

And every two on one, he takes an idiotic route where if he's the player without the puck, there's never a passing lane, and if he's the player with it, he skates himself to a bad shooting angle, the D takes away the pass (as is their job), and he sends a fadeaway wrister right into the goalie's chest.

These are the reasons he can't be on the top line, like, ever.