Confirmed Signing with Link: [MTL] Jeff Petry signs extension with Habs (4 years, 6.25m AAV)

[phlocky]

Remember the days a few years ago when our top prospects wouldn't crack our top 10 now? MB was given crap to work with and he rode it. Perhaps his greatest fault was waiting too long to rebuild.

Well, he also made some very questionable decisions like the Drouin trade

 

[DC Comics]

I'm a little surprised how happy everyone is here. Admittedly, I don't see a lot of Habs games, but I would have thought with a flat cap (that's in no way guaranteed to go up before that contract is over,) that about $5M is about the sweet spot. He's on the 2nd pair, behind Weber, right?

I'm not trying to say I know any better, just that I'm a bit surprised at how unanimously Habs fans approve of this dollar figure. I expected the reaction to be more like "I guess we can afford that."

Both are RD so they cannot play on the same pair. Not obvious who is number 1 and who is no. 2. You can arguably think that Petry is ahead of Weber. Both are top 2 NHL D without a doubt. Very complementary skill so comparaison is almost impossible

 

[ole ole]

good player, good signing, bad team

And to think we did better than you guys this season.

 

[phlocky]

okay, so I have an honest question and I'm not trying to be a dick or anything. As I understand it Petry still has a year left on his current contract and the new contract with NMC doesn't click in until July 1st, 2021 right? That means that technically, if the Habs decide this was a bad signing they could expose him to Seattle in the expansion sraft in June of 2021 right? I mean I don't see them doing this but if he really wanted security to stay in Montreal he probably has a handshake agreement with management that they won't expose him during the expansion draft right?

Or am I missing something?

 

[ole ole]

Man, there's some serious anger over the pointing out of his age, huh?

So he's 32 right?,

 

[ole ole]

Yeah, UFA deals never go wrong.

Ya like any deal can never goes wrong.

 

[ole ole]

I’d kill to have Petry on the Rangers. He’s a top-pairing defenseman. Would I want to sign him when he’s a couple months away from turning 34? No. And I definitely wouldn’t want to make that gamble a year in advance either.

The Rangers gave this same deal to Shattenkirk and it blew up in their faces. Shattenkirk was 5-6 years younger than Petry when this deal will kick in.

So because that deal went bad than every deal will end up bad. Like your thinking....NOT.

 

[BLNY]

Well, he also made some very questionable decisions like the Drouin trade

No one bats 1.000.

IMO, his biggest mistake was nepotism. He hired Therrien and a number of buddies for the front office during his first 'term'. Therrien was a disaster - 2014 conf final aside. He's always been a shit coach.

From Julien on, things have largely moved in the right direction. The drafting has been strong over the last 3. The Pacioretty trade trumps the Drouin trade. The one area that needs a change is special teams, and were I him I'd be strongly suggesting change to my head coach.

 

[ole ole]

probably the ones who have to trade for a bottom pair defenseman's rights just to sign him to a $14 million contract.

How was those playins? How were those playoffs? 40 mil of nothing.
Good work boys.

 

[Tanknation]

Wow fantastic contract for Habs. I feel like Petry could have gotten 8M$+ easy as UFA if he wanted top $$. 4 year term is also great, on both sides based on his age

I don't think so in the covid era. Right now nothing is guaranteed. But a decent contract none the less.

 

[HabsQC]

Well, he also made some very questionable decisions like the Drouin trade

As much as it didn't turn out to be very good. At the moment of the trade Drouin went almost ppg with Tampa in the playoffs while Sergachev hadn't played a game yet. Drouin was the 3rd overall from 2 years prior of Sergachev's draft. Plus he's a hometown boy. It's easy to say now the trade wasn't so good for the Habs, but at the moment it really wasn't bad.

I blame MB for that one summer where he signed Alzner and lost Markov and Radulov, that was his only real bad summer.

The Subban-Weber trade took balls to make but now he looks like a genius.

The Danault trade also a very good one.

The Pacioretty trade, probably his best

The Armia trade, the Petry trade, the Domi trade, the Vanek trade, the Kovalchuk signing, the Chiarot signing, Byron picked up on waivers,

He really isnt as bad as people make him out to be.

 

[Essenege]

You sir, get it. Perceptions do stick and people use mental shortcuts to assess players. There’s just too many players to keep track of between 31 teams, prospects, AHL, etc. I think even NHL’s GM are guilty of it sometime.

Anyway, great signing, for a great player. Anyone who watches him regularly knows he’s a top pairing and even #1D. Plays a fast game, great on transition, some offensive creativity and better then average defensively. Better then Weber.

I think people tend to stick to a certain perception of a player, so I I can understand why some people see this as bad deal. When Petry got here he was a mobile but soft defenseman. His first full season in Montreal he was being completely outshined by Markov, Subban (a guy roughly his age) and was at around the level of a much younger Nathan Beaulieu. He was 27 years old back then so I guess this perception of a soft, shaky and not very productive 2nd pairing-at-best defenseman just stuck, because it was logical to think we were seeing a finished product. But Petry consistently improved every season since. With the arrival of Claude Julien, his decision-making considerably improved, so that smooth skating was now put to use a lot better, both offensively and defensively. The last two years (coinciding with Luke Richardson's hire as defensive coach) have seen even more marked improvement. He's a lot more assertive now.

Petry is a late bloomer and doesn't play the most spectacular game, so he'll never be "the hotness" for fans. But this is a very good deal for the team.

Great skater, good size, smart player, great offensively and defensively despite often being paired with crappy, AHL defensemen. A quality veteran who is well liked and respected by teammates. Durable player who has missed few games and logs 23 minutes a night.

6 million dollars for that seems a bargain to me.

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

Shattenkirk has been great

I was just referring to what that quoter wrote in the quoted post...

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

okay, so I have an honest question and I'm not trying to be a dick or anything. As I understand it Petry still has a year left on his current contract and the new contract with NMC doesn't click in until July 1st, 2021 right? That means that technically, if the Habs decide this was a bad signing they could expose him to Seattle in the expansion sraft in June of 2021 right? I mean I don't see them doing this but if he really wanted security to stay in Montreal he probably has a handshake agreement with management that they won't expose him during the expansion draft right?

Or am I missing something?

He has a NMC in his present contract.

The NTC/NMC clauses of his hew contract are identical to the ones he had in the last 3 years of his present contract.

 

[Just Linda]

Well, he also made some very questionable decisions like the Drouin trade

True, I chalk that up to the hanging on too long mindset.

 

[phlocky]

He has a NMC in his present contract.

The NTC/NMC clauses of his hew contract are identical to the ones he had in the last 3 years of his present contract.

Okay, thank you.

Again, I'm happy for Petry and the entire Habs nation

 

[admiralcadillac]

Well, he also made some very questionable decisions like the Drouin trade

That, the Desharnais and Alzner signings plus you could argue not signing Radulov were his biggest mistakes. It's not really a bad list.

Still, Radulov at 7m would not have made this team a contender and it would have affected our cap as we stand today.

 

[MXD]

The difference between Pietrangelo and Petry in a non-flat cap world is not 1-2 million. No one would ever pay Petry 8 plus million nor should they. He is worth what he got.

... Pietrangelo would've gotten close to 10.

 

[Mike Towers]

As much as it didn't turn out to be very good. At the moment of the trade Drouin went almost ppg with Tampa in the playoffs while Sergachev hadn't played a game yet. Drouin was the 3rd overall from 2 years prior of Sergachev's draft. Plus he's a hometown boy. It's easy to say now the trade wasn't so good for the Habs, but at the moment it really wasn't bad.

I blame MB for that one summer where he signed Alzner and lost Markov and Radulov, that was his only real bad summer.

The Subban-Weber trade took balls to make but now he looks like a genius.

The Danault trade also a very good one.

The Pacioretty trade, probably his best

The Armia trade, the Petry trade, the Domi trade, the Vanek trade, the Kovalchuk signing, the Chiarot signing, Byron picked up on waivers,

He really isnt as bad as people make him out to be.

And yet he finished 24th in the NHL in his 8th season and has never committed to a direction.....so he isn't good either.

 

[beowulf]

2 years ago I advocated for the Flyers to try and trade for him as I saw him as the perfect partner for Provo on the top pairing. I've always like him and thought he was highly underrated. I like seeing players stay where they are and the team rewarding them for their service. I'm happy for him and the Habs.

Again, I think this was a good day for hockey in general even if he's not a Flyer

He would have been a great partner for him.

 

[HabsQC]

And yet he finished 24th in the NHL in his 8th season and has never committed to a direction.....so he isn't good either.

I think it's hard for a GM to attest only team performance. It has to be taken into account, but IMO a "what he did with what he had" mentality is better.

In the example of Montreal, no UFA wants to sign there and taxes are higher than the majority of other cities in the NHL.

Of course no one can call his tenure a success and I am quite surprised he hasn't been replaced yet as 8 years is pretty long for a GM.

 

[HuGo Sham]

bergevin's biggest issues have been building from goaltending and the wing - which he has since corrected. and not finding a suitablele backup - which he has since corrected. he's far from perfect, but he's finally learning from his mistakes

 

[TimeZone]

Probably some psychological stuff going on too. Now go on and tell me what goalie is the best because of how many points he had last year!

Nothing settles a debate like a classical straw man!

Terrible analogy, swing and a miss.

 

[ole ole]

I thought this thread was about Petry and his contract.

 

[Halakitlikethat]

Anyone who watches Montreal knows this is a good contract