Confirmed Signing with Link: [MTL] F Kirby Dach signs extension with the Canadiens (4 years, $3.3625M AAV)

[HabsAddict]

I don't like this contract. Dach has done nothing to warrent this contract and it's purely based on "potential".

One of the human problem with ALL managers is they overvalue their handiwork. HuGo made the trade and HuGo is now saying they are betting big on their trade.

I would of preffered a 2.5 million contract for two years and then if warrented, I'm fine with 5 million the next two. That 5 million means we really do have a serious 2C on our hands.

Too early and too risky for unproven product.

 

[MarioLeMoose]

Leaving money to win cups in MTL no less lmao

Maybe he believes he can add to the vision and what HuGo is building in MTL lmao

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Hows he been overall since that horrible wrist injury?

 

[McJedi]

How is it manipulation if the team doesn't benefit from it? Do you honestly believe Bergevin sacrificed himself by putting his best players Weber/Price on LTIR last season? BTW poor teams can also use LTIR...most if not all the salary would be paid by insurance.

Habs benefit greatly from getting Weber and Price off their cap. Overpaid guys worth nowhere near their AAVs. Excellent off ramp for bad contracts.

 

[Frank Drebin]

As a fan, I'd be concerned the player isn't confident in himself. Hey, I'm not that good, better lock in right now while perception is still high vs production.

Players have all kinds of reasons to sign the contracts that they do. Coming from a modest upbringing its hard to say no to guaranteed millions. He still has 2 more contracts to become infinitely wealthy.

 

[samsagat]

I'm not saying people are lining up to acquire him, but you're pitching a false scenario here in effort to pretend the notion of trading him is hopeless.

He scored at just under a 20-goal pace this season on a tire fire of a team who couldn't ice the same roster in consecutive games all season because it was decimated by injury. And he did that in a season where he also had COVID.

Pretending his 25-goal seasons are something of the distant past and now "doesn't score anymore" is simply a fabrication.

He signed a 1 year contract after a PTO in STL like 2 years ago, he was just off a 29 goals/59 pts season.

Hoffman never had much value, even when he was producing offensively.

He's soft, defensively non existant and has a bad reputation in terms of attitude.

And if you think that at almost 33 he's a fix at 20+ goals, it's your right, but I dont agree.

Chances are good that with habs depth in terms of forwards, he'll be a healthy scratch for streches next season.

And yes as I said, he's tradable if habs take a bad contract back or give assets to get rid of him...
Other than that, you can keep dreaming if you want...

 

[unicornpig]

10 million over the cap and still a lottery team. what a feat by montreal front office.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

10 million over the cap and still a lottery team. what a feat by montreal front office.

...former Front Office...the new guys seem to know what they are doing so far...but keep chirping...the Habs'll be back soon to add to your team's First Round woes...

 

[unicornpig]

...former Front Office...the new guys seem to know what they are doing so far...but keep chirping...the Habs'll be back soon to add to your team's First Round woes...

current management just gave two picks and paid 3.3 million for a player that another lottery team was trying to get rid of LOL

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

current management just gave two round picks and 3.3 million for a player that another lottery team was trying to get rid of LOL

...and Chicago is sorely going to regret that decision...again, laugh it up while we rebuild...and in a few years when we again pass you by in the Playoffs, in part thanks to Kirby Dach, we'll see who's laughing...but keep those 56 year old dreams alive, amigo...

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Smart move by Hughes. These are the types of high potential players that you take gambles with. And this gamble doesn’t hurt if it doesn’t pan out.

 

[ponder]

Good bridge deal. If he can stick at centre, he should be a quality middle 6 centre, maybe even a quality 2C. Good price for a quality middle 6 centre, and he's still an RFA at the end.

This deal only end up legit bad if he can't be a solid 3rd liner, and that risk seems small. Odds of him outperforming the deal, on the other hand, are pretty high.

 

[ewfwgfwahbger]

Scott Niedermayer was also drafted 3rd overall so this is a steal for the habs to be able to get anplsyer of that caliber for cheap.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

He signed a 1 year contract after a PTO in STL like 2 years ago, he was just off a 29 goals/59 pts season.

Hoffman never had much value, even when he was producing offensively.

He's soft, defensively non existant and has a bad reputation in terms of attitude.

And if you think that at almost 33 he's a fix at 20+ goals, it's your right, but I dont agree.

Chances are good that with habs depth in terms of forwards, he'll be a healthy scratch for streches next season.

And yes as I said, he's tradable if habs take a bad contract back or give assets to get rid of him...
Other than that, you can keep dreaming if you want...

While he's far from a selke candidate this is false. He does the odd, odd thing defensively, but when people don't like a player they don't see any good they do.

He also had a contract offer from the Habs and maybe 1 other team but chose the blues as they were better chance. When he signed with the Habs he likely didn't get anything more than a year contract with anyone else.

 

[POVERTY]

I'd appreciate if the Habs brought back Bergevin. These moves lately make too much sense.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

This is a good contract I feel Dach has earned. I think this gives him the potential to have a breakout season and get comfortable.

 

[Crow]

...and Chicago is sorely going to regret that decision...again, laugh it up while we rebuild...and in a few years when we again pass you by in the Playoffs, in part thanks to Kirby Dach, we'll see who's laughing...but keep those 56 year old dreams alive, amigo...

Could easily work out for both teams or neither too. Wish Dach the best but Nazar was a very solid pick for us with a high floor and a lot of potential.

 

[Frank Drebin]

current management just gave two picks and paid 3.3 million for a player that another lottery team was trying to get rid of LOL

Chicago is actively trying to get better or worse this year?

 

[Esq]

Hope he works out for the Habs. I had such high hopes for him here.

 

[Lshap]

I don't like this contract. Dach has done nothing to warrent this contract and it's purely based on "potential".

One of the human problem with ALL managers is they overvalue their handiwork. HuGo made the trade and HuGo is now saying they are betting big on their trade.

I would of preffered a 2.5 million contract for two years and then if warrented, I'm fine with 5 million the next two. That 5 million means we really do have a serious 2C on our hands.

Too early and too risky for unproven product.

Thing is, in two years Montreal should be finished its rebuild and trending up, which is when they'll need a tightly-managed cap. Makes more sense to spend a little more now in the hope it'll look like a discount later on, when the Habs are competing and need as much cap space as possible.

HuGo gambled by trading for Dach; makes sense they'd also gamble on his contract.

 

[FerrisRox]

He signed a 1 year contract after a PTO in STL like 2 years ago, he was just off a 29 goals/59 pts season.

Hoffman never had much value, even when he was producing offensively.

He's soft, defensively non existant and has a bad reputation in terms of attitude.

And if you think that at almost 33 he's a fix at 20+ goals, it's your right, but I dont agree.

Chances are good that with habs depth in terms of forwards, he'll be a healthy scratch for streches next season.

And yes as I said, he's tradable if habs take a bad contract back or give assets to get rid of him...
Other than that, you can keep dreaming if you want...

Do you need a hand moving those goal posts or do you have it under control?

I would of preffered a 2.5 million contract for two years and then if warrented, I'm fine with 5 million the next two. That 5 million means we really do have a serious 2C on our hands.

Why would a "serious 2C" sign a two year deal at only $5 million a season?

That makes no sense at all.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

It's a good deal for Kirby. I think he'll sign a similar deal when it expires.

He could explode. I don't think he will. He's a defensively responsible winger with talent. All the tools. Limited toolbox.

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

It's a good deal for Kirby. I think he'll sign a similar deal when it expires.

He could explode. I don't think he will. He's a defensively responsible winger with talent. All the tools. Limited toolbox.

Yeah I don't know much about Dach but a lot of habs fans and management are banking on MSL working with him to improve.

 

[byrath]

As a fan, I'd be concerned the player isn't confident in himself. Hey, I'm not that good, better lock in right now while perception is still high vs production.

doesn’t seem like he really believes in himself. if you think you’re gonna be good you take 2 years max

He's got first-hand experience on how an injury can derail a career, not a wonder that he took 'I could retire very comfortably' money instead of a 2mx2y deal

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

I don't like this contract. Dach has done nothing to warrent this contract and it's purely based on "potential".

One of the human problem with ALL managers is they overvalue their handiwork. HuGo made the trade and HuGo is now saying they are betting big on their trade.

I would of preffered a 2.5 million contract for two years and then if warrented, I'm fine with 5 million the next two. That 5 million means we really do have a serious 2C on our hands.

Too early and too risky for unproven product.

I don't like this contract, either, but that's what the Montreal General Manager is doing, so I can't say these types of contracts are outright irrational.