You can never get fleeced in a trade involving crap for crap. lol
I don’t see Petry wanting to play in unsavory markets like Dallas. This thread is moot.
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I don’t see Petry wanting to play in unsavory markets like Dallas. This thread is moot.
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Must have missed the playoffs and the re-signing of Daddy.. not sure what crap you are talking about.
Unsavoury? When was the last time Montreal signed a big free-agent? LOL players are running away from the Canadian markets, media, weather, taxes, nothing desirable there.
Last time was when the Habs wnet to the cup final a few years ago. The free agents we want to sign are not garbage players like Dadonov / Gurianov.
That’s my reasoning as well; Dallas could be a good landing spot for Petry (if he’s open to live near his in-laws, that is!), but another team would need to be involved for a D swap to make sense for both teams.
In that spirit, a Petry vs Suter or Hakanpaa swap-based deal would likely yield the best return/flexibility for Montreal.
No need to retain on Petry from the outset if it’s Suter; the latter would be traded again with retention for further asset(s) since he would likely accept to be dealt for Habs in passing only anyways.
A Petry vs Hakanpaa swap entails the Habs would need to retain on Petry in the first trade, but could probably trade Hakanpaa without retention afterwards.
In both scenarios, the Habs end up making room to develop their own young D and fetch futures all the while to consolidate their rebuilding efforts.
Suter’s or Hakapaa’s ultimate landing spot could be the same: Edmonton; a package consisting of Suter at 50% or Hakapaa + DeSmith (+ maybe Kovacevic if Suter’s involved) could be very enticing to the Oilers considering their weak RHD and G depths.
For instance:
Trade 1A (MTL-DAL)
Petry / Petry (50%) vs Suter / Hakanpaa + DAL 2024 1st
Trade 1B (MTL-EDM)
Suter (50%) / Hakapaan + DeSmith (+Kovacevic?) vs EDM 2024 2nd + EDM 2026 2nd (+Lavoie?)
I very, very much doubt Nill trades a 1st for a 35 year old Petry. He’s only traded a 1st one time his entire time in Dallas, and that was just last year for a 22 year old Nils Lundqvist
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One of the biggest impediments to trading Petry for another defenseman is the chance of them getting hurt.
Posters talk about waiting for a deadline trade, which has a high probability of an injury.
Best to trade him now for a bit less then not at all in 6 months.
As for his value as a "1st". Trading him for a 1st that is up in the nosebleeds as 25.OA is not much of a stretch. If it's better the 25.OA then Habs can add a 3rd and if top 10, a 2nd. It's not the first time Hughes has engineered a multi option return.
At best, Petry with retention is at the border of a very late 1st or a high second. Given that there is no team that needs him if they have a very high 2nd, then there has to be a 2nd and a 3rd OR a first and Habs add a 3rd.
We are weeks into dead silence about the entire affair. So it's cooking...
Posters talk about waiting for a deadline trade, which has a high probability of an injury.
Best to trade him now for a bit less then not at all in 6 months.
As for his value as a "1st". Trading him for a 1st that is up in the nosebleeds as 25.OA is not much of a stretch. If it's better the 25.OA then Habs can add a 3rd and if top 10, a 2nd. It's not the first time Hughes has engineered a multi option return.
At best, Petry with retention is at the border of a very late 1st or a high second. Given that there is no team that needs him if they have a very high 2nd, then there has to be a 2nd and a 3rd OR a first and Habs add a 3rd.
We are weeks into dead silence about the entire affair. So it's cooking...
In the post you quoted, there was no mention of what the return would be, merely situational context.
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You don't need to read anything though?
Do you realize the irony of getting upset because an imaginary trade offer made by an anonymous person on an internet message board between teams none of us have any involvement with doesn't seem realistic enough for you?
People in here are like kids playing in a sandbox. Just play along man.
Dadonov was garbage for Montreal. Dallas is a playoff team but beware if they aren't a contender.
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And you still cannot attract top UFAs. Maybe there is a reason beyond just banners on the ceiling? Smell the coffee.
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You're very welcome. At least your nose works, so that's an accomplishment.
Doubt it, the Stars have Miro, Lindell, and Harley there already, with Bichsel on the way.
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Crisis averted!
Until the trade deadline, anyway, then I'm sure it'll resurface if the Wings are selling.
Until the trade deadline, anyway, then I'm sure it'll resurface if the Wings are selling.
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On the nose, you mean?
Crisis averted!
Until the trade deadline, anyway, then I'm sure it'll resurface if the Wings are selling.
I think dealing with Wings fans would be infinitely less torturous than MTL fans.
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On the nose, you mean?
I think dealing with Wings fans would be infinitely less torturous than MTL fans.
Probably.
I'm still not wowed by the prospect of Dallas bringing in Petry though....unless Suter's going the other way.
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This whole thread dominates. Everybody lets sticky this for the next time a Habs player is worth a 1st. Remember when Edmundson would return a 1st? Petry? Good times were hab’d by all.
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