Proposal: MTL - DAL

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jfhabs

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He’ll be in the middle six but I see Dallas having 3 very dynamic scoring lines in a couple years and him having a Morrow-esque prime: one or two bigger seasons but has a 5 year period where he averages ~60pts assuming he stays healthy

Could be totally off base and he never exceeds 50, but I think he has another gear he’ll hit in next couple of years
Ok, everybody can have his opinion. I just don't see the necessary tools to be that kind of player, even tho I really like him as a 40-50 guy. I see a bit of Lehkonen and he just put 51pts in 65 games, nothings impossible!!
 

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You gotta give to get. Petry at 50% retained is a significant upgrade on their middle pairing.

Well I don't want Petry to begin with, but let's say Dallas did, how many teams at the deadline trade away a guy like Dellandrea. Most roster players that get traded at the deadline are cap dumps.
 

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This game again? I get it he is a supposedly a top 4D. But for a top 4D he has missed some time over the past 4 years. I would assume age is playing a factor. He was all a cap dump to get the better defenseman.

There is no way I would give up Dellandrea or a 1st or a 2nd for him. Seems like he is starting to fall off and is not worth it. This is not the missing piece Dallas needs. Not worth the assets unless you are getting the right guy.
 

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I could see a deadline deal for Petry at 50% for Hakanpaa and Bourque, if Bourque hasn't shown more by then.


We don't want that 3 year deal... might as well keep Petry.

Don't think you'll find any Stars fans that will move Bourque

Bourque also put up almost 50 points in his first AHL season, not sure what you mean if he hasn't shown more by then...
 
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I could see a deadline deal for Petry at 50% for Hakanpaa and Bourque, if Bourque hasn't shown more by then.


We don't want that 3 year deal... might as well keep Petry.
Is Montreal adding a first and a second or what am I missing? :laugh:
 
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I could see a deadline deal for Petry at 50% for Hakanpaa and Bourque, if Bourque hasn't shown more by then.


We don't want that 3 year deal... might as well keep Petry.
I wouldn't mind , but not if are retaining 50% on Petry. Marchment would suddenly become a 7M player for 2 years for us...
 

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Don't think you'll find any Stars fans that will move Bourque

Bourque also put up almost 50 points in his first AHL season, not sure what you mean if he hasn't shown more by then...
Say he's having a mediocre 2nd season, he won't have shown "more".
 

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I could see a deadline deal for Petry at 50% for Hakanpaa and Bourque, if Bourque hasn't shown more by then.


We don't want that 3 year deal... might as well keep Petry.

Brother, you can't be making posts like this.

Go look at the Dadanov for Gurianov, Ryder/Cole, Niinimaa/Ribeiro trades as a basis for how Dallas will operate (aka fleece Montreal).. and it's not giving away top end prospects for Petry.
 

pth2

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Brother, you can't be making posts like this.

Go look at the Dadanov for Gurianov, Ryder/Cole, Niinimaa/Ribeiro trades as a basis for how Dallas will operate (aka fleece Montreal).. and it's not giving away top end prospects for Petry.
Dadonov was terrible in Montreal, so no loss there for Montreal.
Cole for Ryder was fair.

And to my mind, if Bourque hasn't shown more by the deadline, he'll be transitioning from propect to suspect. And my point was mostly to get a return that was futures and not removing a useful roster player just before the playoffs.
 

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Dallas isn't giving up on their former first round pick who just put up 28pts in his first full season @ age 22 (he had 27 games experience prior to this year). Nobody has delusions he will be a superstar, but he's definitely seen as a 60pt potential captain material in a couple years.

Gotta give to get, but Dallas probably see's this as an overpayment
28 points, holy shit!
 

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Dadonov was terrible in Montreal, so no loss there for Montreal.
Cole for Ryder was fair.

And to my mind, if Bourque hasn't shown more by the deadline, he'll be transitioning from propect to suspect. And my point was mostly to get a return that was futures and not removing a useful roster player just before the playoffs.
The kid has played 1 season in the AHL and is looking to make the NHL roster this year. Not sure how you get suspect out of that even if he spends time in the AHL this year. He is coming along just fine.

Either way petry does not get you Bourque even at 50% retention. Shoot a bit lower in the prospect pool.
 

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The kid has played 1 season in the AHL and is looking to make the NHL roster this year. Not sure how you get suspect out of that even if he spends time in the AHL this year. He is coming along just fine.

Either way petry does not get you Bourque even at 50% retention. Shoot a bit lower in the prospect pool.
Fair enough. Maybe suggest names so we can see what might be doable?
 

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The kid has played 1 season in the AHL and is looking to make the NHL roster this year. Not sure how you get suspect out of that even if he spends time in the AHL this year. He is coming along just fine.

Either way petry does not get you Bourque even at 50% retention. Shoot a bit lower in the prospect pool.
Mtl would add a pick to get Bourque, we have way too many prospects and picks in the upcoming drafts.
 

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Dadonov was terrible in Montreal, so no loss there for Montreal.
Cole for Ryder was fair.

And to my mind, if Bourque hasn't shown more by the deadline, he'll be transitioning from propect to suspect. And my point was mostly to get a return that was futures and not removing a useful roster player just before the playoffs.

Yeah dude, 2.00 PPG junior player, strong AHL rookie season, so next year if it doesn't go 100% perfect he is suspect.

Can't make this shit up.

Let's just shut down this thread before us Dallas fans need to read more silly posts, Dallas has zero interest in Petry, and Bourque is never going to Montreal in a deal for Petry.
 

pth2

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Yeah dude, 2.00 PPG junior player, strong AHL rookie season, so next year if it doesn't go 100% perfect he is suspect.

Can't make this shit up.

Let's just shut down this thread before us Dallas fans need to read more silly posts, Dallas has zero interest in Petry, and Bourque is never going to Montreal in a deal for Petry.
Keep on missing the point. Suggest another prospect. I mentionned how the goal was to propose a non-roster return, maybe my value was off, but go on missing the point instead of suggesting alternatives.
 
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Dallas isn't giving up on their former first round pick who just put up 28pts in his first full season @ age 22 (he had 27 games experience prior to this year). Nobody has delusions he will be a superstar, but he's definitely seen as a 60pt potential captain material in a couple years.

Gotta give to get, but Dallas probably see's this as an overpayment

60 points!? I'd take that bet
 

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at the deadline

Habs: Jeff Petry (50% retained)
Stars: Ty Dellandrea

Dallas shores up the right side behind Heiskanen going into the playoffs
Habs add a capable right wing prospect who aligns with their rebuild timeline and adds some much needed sandpaper to the middle 6
I don't give Dellandrea for Petry.
 

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You don't know that, especially with "insiders" saying otherwise.

Doesn't mean Petry alone is worth Bourque though.

He's obviously not, and I would hope Mavrik isn't part of any deal involving Petry - assuming Dallas is in any way interested in adding another aging blueliner. :dunno:
 
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