Morgan Rielly cross check to the head of Ridley Greig (DOPS UPDATE: In Person Hearing - 6 games or more possible)

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Nostradumbass

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This is the relevant comparable here. Like Perron, Morgan skated with speed with intent to injure and with intent for revenge. This isn’t just some stick work in a scrum where players are jousting, it’s a charge with full force cross check to the blindside of someone’s head.
At least Perron was sticking up for a teammate that got knocked out, not a black puck mark on white twine on a net that their team doesn't even own.
 
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hatterson

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Here's a more recent comparable:

Yea. This is why anything departing from 6 by more than a game would be unreasonable.

Exacerbating factors for Rielly:
- It was after a goal as opposed to after a teammate being knocked out so maybe the NHL considers it more egregious to retaliate for a perceived slight as opposed to for believing someone injured your teammate.
- He skates further across the ice than Perron did.

Mitigating factors for Rielly:
- He didn't hit quite as hard/didn't leap up/toward the crosscheck
- It seemed like he caught more shoulder than Perron did
- Rielly has no disciplinary history as opposed to Perron havinh an incredibly minor one.

So those might adjust it a game either way depending on how the NHL weights them. But looking at the Perron comparable (which is incredibly similar and incredibly recent), anything less than 5 or more than 7 just doesn't make any sense at all.
 

TheNumber4

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People are comparing this to Boxing and UFC now? Yeh if the fighter took the Ring Bell and smashed it over the opponents face after he was already celebrating victory with his corner men.
 

BonHoonLayneCornell

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You are comparing a game of a bunch of old heads to an NHL game? :laugh:
just demonstrating that people can in fact not cross check people in the head when faced with incredible adversity like someone scoring an empty net goal emphatically, or, in our case, much worse. Somehow, we everyday humans pull it off, but here are people excusing a blatant cheap shot.
 
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This is one hell of a daft post.

Boxers, UFC and martial arts are sports where the essence of their practice is fighting within fixed rules.

Morgan Rielly taking a stick to an unsuspecting guy's face in a premeditated manner because he scored a goal is decidedly not part of the essence of hockey.
How much time does a person need between thought and action for it to count as premeditation?
 
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Or is it this incident allover again?

Only difference here is Vesey didnt attend the Timmy Stutzle school of diving like his fellow Senators.

in all seriousness, I'll say it's 6 games. More aggressive than that ^^ but isn't in the Dale Hunter territory.

Yeah but he's cross checking a Leafs player. 1 game.
 

Canadian Finn

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I really wish we could train the refs to become police so they can hand out charges right on the spot.

then we could set up a small jail in every arena, just to speed up that process.
 

Gabe Kupari

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We always get the book thrown at us. I get it you hate our team but why the double standard.

What double standard. A player on my team just got 3 games for hitting a guy who had his head down and that happened during an actual play not after. Do you play victim all the time here. Your player did something stupid. Accept it. He deserves more games than a guy who hit a dude with his head down. Pretty simple
 

toddkaz

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If they knock someone out during weigh ins or arm raising. Yes. It’s not part of the fight at that point. This isn’t complicated.

Nah man, it happens often in the NHL maybe 10 times a season every season. Just stop its embarrassing.
 

ALine

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Wow this thread is like a wildfire.
Or more like a tire fire considering it’s content.

Buddy was hot dogging and empty net goal. Rielly took exception. Went for the cross check but it landed high. He’ll sit some games for that.
But ya somebody should get the cops on the horn.
 

Puck Tiss

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So would boxers be arrested, so would martial arts be arrested, so would football players who fight get arrested, so would UFC fighters get arrested.

Not a good take.
Both you and who you were responding to were talking hyperbole. Hockey is a contact sport, you dont expect a guy to crosscheck you in the head. Boxing is a contact sport, you dont expect guy to bite your ear. There are rules for a reason.
 
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Sens9292

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I can see why Rielly was pissed.

No penalty called against the Sens, then Stutzle flops around as usual drawing one and it kills Toronto's momentum in the end. Then, Ratboy Greig makes a fool of himself, as a rookie. Rielly was just welcoming him to the league. It's going to be 5 or more, but should be 1-2. Good on the Leafs not to take that shit, usually they just lie down and take the beating.
They took it all. Where did Reilly drop the gloves and confront Greig? All I seen was a cheap shot cross check directly to the face after a goal was scored. That’s not being tough, that’s exposing that you cannot handle yourself and make poor decisions, a decision that will likely cost the Leafs in a wildcard hunt
 
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