GDT: Montreal @ Vancouver - 10/30/14 - 10pm - RDS - Sportsnet 360

[sheed36]

Damn that Pens PP is deadly. Now up to 41.7% on the season. Take notes MT.

 

[Summer Rose]

This GDT is... epic.

Going to miss the first period again. Can't just eat dinner at my computer anymore, family makes me eat with them now that I have to live with them again

 

[Andy]

37 games together, I think. Gomez generated 24 of his points in games he played with Pacioretty in 2010-2011; this was between December 15, 2010 to March 8th, 2011. His remaining 15 points were spread out in the other 43 games. Quite a drastic difference.

Just a reminder, not all of the points Gomez generated during those games had Pacioretty contributing a goal or assist. But Gomez's pace with Pacioretty was far more respectable than his pace without him. Pacioretty masked Gomez's declining quality of play.
http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/g/gomezsc01/gamelog/2011/
http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/g/gomezsc01/scoring/2011/

Yup. I think Pacioretty's ability to drive a line by himself is grossly underrated around here. People like to throw around the myth that Max needs DD or that he can only be productive with him or that he's a one dimensional sniper, this is false. When Max is on, he's a great player and everyone benefits from it. Just look at the beginning of the season, DD and Gallagher are working their tales off, but if Max isn't driving the line, no one is putting up points. He is the straw that stirs the drink. He's a great possession player and I don't need to look at the numbers to tell me that. He's really good at driving the play forward.

He can be even better if the team gave him even more responsibility...i.e being a 200 ft player. I think he can be even better offensively if he played with players that didn't depend on him for the offense. I think it's just meant for him and chucky to be together. The line wouldn't have to always have Max on for it to be productive.

Max is stagnant and one-dimensional right now because his role is one-dimensional. He's not really asked to much more than produce. Give him the responsibility of playing a 200ft and I think a lot of people will be surprised.

 

[Markov4Captain]

He can be baby sometimes. He is also really biased towards and against certain players, but it's hard not to admit that he's pretty insightful a lot of the times. He does have the tendency to cherry pick stats. That being said, he's not really different than any other reporter or media type: see rds with reference to DD and Bouillon and sportsnet in regards to the Leafs. No one's narratives are absolute and it's nice to get different ones sometimes.

I find Arpon Basu to be the best at remaining neutral but giving really interesting insight. He doesn't have an agenda. He just calls is at it is. Probably my favourite local media guy, followed by Mckenna.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

Yup. I think Pacioretty's ability to drive a line by himself is grossy underrated around here. People like to throw around the myth that Max needs DD or that he can only be productive with him, this is false. When Max is on, he's a great player and everyone benefits from it. Just look at the beginning of the season, DD and Gallagher are working their tales off, but if Max isn't driving the line, no one is putting up points. He is the straw that stirs the drink.

He can be even better if the team gave him even more responsibility...i.e being a 200 ft player. I think he can be even better offensively if he played with players that didn't depend on him for the offense. I think it's just meant for him and chucky to be together. The line wouldn't have to always have Max on for it to be productive.

...I truly drool at the possibilities for Pacioretty-Galchenyuk-Sherbak in the not-to-distant future...

 

[Andy]

I find Arpon Basu to be the best at remaining neutral but giving really interesting insight. He doesn't have an agenda. He just calls is at it is. Probably my favourite local media guy, followed by Mckenna.

I like Arpon Basu also. McKenna is cool too, but I find, at least on twitter, that he can be a little arrogant.

 

[Dominator13]

Does anyone else follow Andrew Berkshire on Twitter?

The guy acts so petty for a 'reporter'. He's the founder of the "I LOVE ELLER AND HATE DD" club, and his writing is so subjective for someone who gets as many hits as he does on his website. I mean yeah, Eller should play tonight, but this guy takes his obsession to a whole new level. Mercilessly calls out Desharnais, but turns a blind eye when his favourite players make mistakes or are deserving of criticism. Shoddy reporting at its finest.

Same for his buddy Robert Rice. Both despise grit, (which fits their personalities basically) and both OBSSESS over advance stats, it's all that they talk about, and think all their arguments are undesputable because of it. And yes, when they don't like somebody, there's no going back.

 

[SirClintonPortis]

Yup. I think Pacioretty's ability to drive a line by himself is grossly underrated around here. People like to throw around the myth that Max needs DD or that he can only be productive with him or that he's a one dimensional sniper, this is false. When Max is on, he's a great player and everyone benefits from it. Just look at the beginning of the season, DD and Gallagher are working their tales off, but if Max isn't driving the line, no one is putting up points. He is the straw that stirs the drink. He's a great possession player and I don't need to look at the numbers to tell me that. He's really good at driving the play forward.

He can be even better if the team gave him even more responsibility...i.e being a 200 ft player. I think he can be even better offensively if he played with players that didn't depend on him for the offense. I think it's just meant for him and chucky to be together. The line wouldn't have to always have Max on for it to be productive.

Max is stagnant and one-dimensional right now because his role is one-dimensional. He's not really asked to much more than produce. Give him the responsibility of playing a 200ft and I think a lot of people will be surprised.

Galchenyuk also has what it takes to score on some of Max's feeds. The two together could result in both eclipsing 70 points.

Pacioretty could use some Jacques Martin coaching right now. The guy is flawed as a coach, but he knows how to get his forwards to play a 200 ft game. Pacioretty has the tools to be a defensive force; a poor man's Hossa. But right now he's more like a Matt Moulson with speed.

 

[roy munson]

Fact: If you type 'DD' in google, you'll soon have this site ranked higher than Freeones or Playboy forums

So, you're saying DD is a boob? Ba-Dah-Tshhh! I'll be here all week. Please remember to tip your waitress. (...wine is going in like water tonight, go easy on me...)

 

[Summer Rose]

So, you're saying DD is a boob? Ba-Dah-Tshhh! I'll be here all week. Please remember to tip your waitress. (...wine is going in like water tonight, go easy on me...)

Your coat is by the door.

 

[Hackett]

I didn't see the flames game, so full disclosure there.

Having said that, its downright bizarre to scratch Eller. The only conclusion I can come up with is that there are some internal issues here.

 

[Bloumeister]

Fact: If you type 'DD' in google, you'll soon have this site ranked higher than Freeones or Playboy forums

So, you're saying DD is a boob? Ba-Dah-Tshhh! I'll be here all week. Please remember to tip your waitress. (...wine is going in like water tonight, go easy on me...)

Freeones

Playboy

DD

boobs

I have this weird feeling there's a pattern here, just can't seem to put my finger on it

 

[Summer Rose]

I didn't see the flames game, so full disclosure there.

Having said that, its downright bizarre to scratch Eller. The only conclusion I can come up with is that there are some internal issues here.

Maybe he got a minor injury in practice and they're keeping it under wraps?

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

I didn't see the flames game, so full disclosure there.

Having said that, its downright bizarre to scratch Eller. The only conclusion I can come up with is that there are some internal issues here.

...yeah, Therrien's stuck in the 90's...grind the puck...chip the puck...dump the puck...grind the puck...

 

[Grant McCagg]

I'm actually not enraged about eller being benched. I don't agree with it, but it may get him motivated. I will reserve judgment until after his next moves...if Bourque continues to play poorly and not produce..he better sit too..and if things don't change in a hurry with the top line...changes are needed. I won't go into the power play...it is seemingly a lost cause to hope that Therrien may sway from his simplistic approach of rolling ineffective lines ad nauseam.

Bournival gets a chance to show his use in the lineup, Eller will be back in next game..hopefully Bourque is in civvies.

 

[SirClintonPortis]

...yeah, Therrien's stuck in the 90's...grind the puck...chip the puck...dump the puck...grind the puck...

Except our defense is ****ing terrible and always leaving a guy in the high slot open. We'd be murdered by the Devils..

 

[Hackett]

Maybe he got a minor injury in practice and they're keeping it under wraps?

Or maybe its a way to get the core players attention to wake up, and eller is the first one to bite the bullet.

I doubt it though. As someone said before in another thread, its possible that MT slots eller into a role that does not match with eller's internal expectations. Thats one scenario that can lead to internal issues.

 

[Habit11]

I didn't see the flames game, so full disclosure there.

Having said that, its downright bizarre to scratch Eller. The only conclusion I can come up with is that there are some internal issues here.

Possible. But the half game benching should have been enough. The entire team was brutal in CGY except Price. Eller took a bad penalty, but so did the rest of the guys who took bad penalties. I felt Bourque was worse on the goal against than Eller was because Rene was at the bench and 4 Flames were up ice attacking. I don't see the justification of letting Bourque play and sitting Eller to put a 4th line winger in his important spot at center. It's just plain dumb on the surface.

 

[Markov4Captain]

Same for his buddy Robert Rice. Both despise grit, (which fits their personalities basically) and both OBSSESS over advance stats, it's all that they talk about, and think all their arguments are undesputable because of it. And yes, when they don't like somebody, there's no going back.

Yeah I stopped following Rice a few months ago. I get that MT doesn't have the best system but the team was like 11-2-1 at one point and all he could talk about was how DD was getting the best offensive zone starts and Eller wasn't. Constant negativity, i got sick of it real quick.

 

[roy munson]

Freeones

Playboy

DD

boobs

I have this weird feeling there's a pattern here, just can't seem to put my finger on it

I don't know how you managed to crack the code, but you did it. Well done. This enigma machine isn't worth crap...

 

[Doc McKenna]

Going to my dads to celebrate his 66th birthday. Going to be a late game as we EST. Come on habs don't look like hot garbage again.

 

[ZARTONK]

Just got here guys, what's up?

I see we're talking about boobs, nice.

 

[Rapala]

Maybe he got a minor injury in practice and they're keeping it under wraps?

You mean other than the coach's foot up his butthole?

 

[Kairi Zaide]

Fact: If you type 'DD' in google, you'll soon have this site ranked higher than Freeones or Playboy forums

Développement Durable.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Prust at center is going to be so laughably bad. All things aside.