well Poehling is not worth a 1st anymore to be honest
yes but then you need to fit Dubois under the cap and he won t take a 2.5m deal… if you trade Petry you ll have to replace him. same with Allen.
Proposal: Montreal and Winnipeg
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Yeah I do and these threads are annoying, like our fanbase that wants a 34 year old letang as a ufa. It gets old
per capfriendly for 22/23
forwards: 12 contracts: 45.3m
defense: 6 contracts: 22.8m
goalies: 2 contracts: 13.3m
buyout: 0.8m
total: 20 contracts: 82.2m
let's remove weber and give romanov a new contract @3.5m
total: 20 contracts: 77.9m
so if price is back, there is no cap space for pld. even if you trade romanov.
Suzuki is great as long as he continues to be one of the most sheltered forwards in the league. Keep his starts in the OZ and he can look fine.
He is so far a 1 time 60 point center who should reach it for a second time if he can get 5 points in his last 10 games. He also has had some really disappointing seasons and has shown little consistency in his career to this point and will be 24 in like 2 months.
Not saying he is a bad player but I would not give up that much for him, especially for what his likely contract demands will be. I don't think he is worth as much as you seem to think though as far as a trade. Laine is having a better season with the same production in 20 less games and with far fewer offensive tools as teammates.
Habs will not make a move for a center until the lottery ball drops. If we get the first overall we pick up Wright and the rebuild continues. Wright, Suzuki, Dvorak (Evans Poehling, Mysak) looks good to me
Both team refuse this trade
PLD Got a great value and Winnipeg need it if they trade Schiefele.
Montréal retool mode need Guhle.
PLD Got a great value and Winnipeg need it if they trade Schiefele.
Montréal retool mode need Guhle.
“Go look at capfriendly and see that there is a pretend trade coming to get rid of Weber and I hope Price is coming back. Why can’t you guys see that in Capfriendly!”
Habs have no need to move Weber at this point. They are going to have to embrace the suck for at least a couple years. The ”deepest wingers in the league“. Aka the best 4th liners isn’t going to lead anyone to the promised land.
I wouldn’t bet on Price coming back. His boy Weber is gone, without him he isn’t interested in coming back.
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If only production was only measured in points you may be correct about Laine. Unfortunately for him its not.
I also never said how much I think he is worth. What I did do though is say that what is being offered in the OP is not near enough.
Talk to any Jets fan and they will tell you just how good PLD has been for the team this season. As much as I loved Lain as a Jet I would do that trade over again any day.
it’s not really a discussion. I don’t see the Jets or Jets fans wanting to trade PLD. If they were it wouldn’t be for the value of Someone who has only seen his top Line stats and makes a bunch of excuses to low ball him in a trade.
I get it. I don’t want to pay for what many other fans bases see as potential for their players. But in this case I don’t see Jet fans looking to unload PLD for any reason given at this point. Certainly not when some Habs fans think Poehling is a 1st round value.
Arguments sake
1. your assuming no more movement on the roster, Hughes has already let it be known that he's looking to help Petry get to the states to be with his family ($6.5M). In addition, Allen, Drouin and Hoffman are also potential candidates to be moved as well along with Drouin depending on the direction the organization goes. There's potentially $18M in Contracts that are moved this summer.
2. Romanov is more likely getting a bridge in the 2 year x 2-2.5M range. namely, because his offensive game hasn't shone through yet from the player angle and he has no arb rights from the team angle.
3. Weber's contract is gone this summer, it was nearly gone a few weeks ago
Finally, as long as we clear this year coming regardless of the above the contracts start to fall off the books,
22-23 UFA
Allen, Byron, and Drouin $14.5M
23-24 UFA
Alzner Buyout, Hoffman,Edmunson $10M
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Imagine not wanting PLD....
Could careless where hes from hes big he can hit can score can pass and hes only 23 him and Suzuki would be a good 1-2 punch for the next decade
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What makes you so certain Price will not be back with the Habs? Personally, I think he's on the opening day roster in the autumn. That contract will be extremely difficult to trade until he shows he can stay healthy - - and a couple of starts at the end of this season is not enough to demonstrate that.
And Habs would substitute Guhle for Strubble cause you want some physicality
A guy that wants to win won't stick to a re building team, ESPECIALLY with mental / physical problems. He's either on LTIR, or traded. His contract isn't an issue for the Habs at all.
Not if we need to trade a top 20prospect like Guhle, a 1st and Poehling.
PLD isn't worth that much. Guhle is not for sale
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he could be from Japan for all i care i want him because hes a good young top 6 center that we need unless we get Wright
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They are different types of players & very good (as discussed at length in the recent PLD/Suzuki poll), but PLD is the Jets Suzuki and I fully expect PLD will be signed long term this summer. Expecting a very similar contract as Suzuki got if PLD signed same term, albeit slightly more due to extra UFA time. If he signs for 5-6 years only it will be less cap hit. So the OP offer (top 4 D prospect, bottom 6 prospect & late 1st) isn't even remotely interesting. Its not about value that the OP is bad or bad prospects, it just doesn't fill any big needs for the Jets like PLD does. Jets have top 4 D prospects (don't need more bottom 6 prospects), they don't have a young 1B center still developing & who is the 1A center moving forward if PLD was traded. Easy pass from the Jets.
i don't want anything. i am a fan of third party team.
just putting value based on line usage is dumb. if your best players is skating on the second line doesn't make him less valuable than the guys on the first line.
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you advised me to look into capfriendly and those future trades were not reflected there. my fault?
i heard habs fan praising romanov as a 4d, who hits like a train. seems like this praise was overboard and i take your contract estimation as romanov being a bottom pair d with upside. fine with me.
Lol. Fair enough if that’s 3 1sts we’ll trade mtl Stanley + ves + 1st for Suzuki. 3 1sts.
Pld has helped Connor be a top 10 point getter in the league so individual stats are one thing. Bringing out the best in your linemate is another.
To put that in perspective last time mtl had a guy top 10 in points was 30 years ago le petit Viking according to google.
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Not a fan of either team but this is not really correct. Suzuki's zone starts are actually slightly more in the defensive zone 5v5 with 51.6% dZS, and he also kills penalties. PLD's zone starts are 58.5% oZS and he does not kill penalties. If anything it seems like PLD is the more sheltered between them. They both have similar TOI for both even strength and PP minutes also.
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While I do think there is a strong possibility that Price finishes the last season or two of his contract on LTIR, he's not at that point yet (unless his audition at the end of this season ends in complete disaster). I also don't see him being traded this summer because (1) no team is trading for his $10.5M per year contract until Price demonstrates he can remain healthy, and (2) the Habs will not trade him with salary retention for the same reason. So, if I was a betting man, my money would be on Price being on the Habs roster in October.
What would you say is Suzuki's value? Is he worth a very good D prospect, a late 1st and a young (former 1st round pick) 3rd liner?
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