WWE: Monday Night Raw thread #133: There is like three women screaming yes for Roman

[Emperoreddy]

I cant believe how much the show killed this thread. Post raw and we have like 6 posts. Lol

What is there to say? 3 hours felt like 10 hours. The first hour was the only good part of the show. Dean is great, KO on commentary is great, Sami is fun.

Rybotch is ****ing awful and why they continue to give these roid monkey pushes is beyond me because that match killed the crowd deader then dead.

The Steph/HHH promo went on for ****ing ages and still got zero heat. No one wants to boo HHH at this point, and they sure as **** don't want to boo him in a feud with Roman. Dolph of all people interrupts in a suit of all things and gets a random ass match with a stipulation that didn't matter in the end.

2nd hour was filler. Backstage, replay, replay replay, filler match. HHH/Dolph wrestled a safe match and big bad Roman comes out and they have a cluster **** of a brawl. They mute the crowd and the boos are still overwhelming. 3 ladies lose their collective **** (and on replay it might of been for HHH). HHH hurts a ref, and ****ing Jack Swagger of all people somehow stops Roman's rampage destroying any positive heat he might of gained from it.

Pointless Uso filler, Neville looks like he seriously hurt himself, and they clearly either don't know how to tell the Taker/Shane story, don't know what the story actually is, or wanted this to really be Vince/Shane and a replay of the WM 17 match but forgot at the last second Vince is 70 and can't get in the ring and take bumps anymore.

I don't know what happened between HIAC and now but Taker looks like he aged 10 years in 6 months. This feud has no story. At this point it clearly exists for its post-mania story implications and because Taker needed a high stakes match and Cena is hurt. Which is still a piss-poor reason to be to lazy to write a ****ing story.

Stupid show. F for **** off.

Takeover: Dallas is going to be so much better then Mania it isn't even funny. And HHH will get cheered for it at Mania.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

BTW, it is so evident how much that Ziggler/Rusev/Summer/Lana angle KILLED Ziggler. Summer is back to being Summer, Rusev is fine and the shining light of a ****** stable and still funny, Lana is in her own program and is still decently over because she's hot, and Ziggler's reactions have just been killed. Of course, it helps that he made himself a copy of Shawn Michaels and completely unoriginal, but god damn did it all go downhill for him after that love square.

 

[Emperoreddy]

BTW, it is so evident how much that Ziggler/Rusev/Summer/Lana angle KILLED Ziggler. Summer is back to being Summer, Rusev is fine and the shining light of a ****** stable and still funny, Lana is in her own program and is still decently over because she's hot, and Ziggler's reactions have just been killed. Of course, it helps that he made himself a copy of Shawn Michaels and completely unoriginal, but god damn did it all go downhill for him after that love square.

Felt he was already on the way down before that feud, but ya that killed him dead.

Rusev isn't fine though. He is stuck in a ****** stable and is just making the most of it because he is great. Mania is going to be awful for him as he is going to lose in the tag match, and then become a butt monkey when Lana loses to Brie and a retired DB sends him packing and we will sit there and wish we got DB/Rusev instead.

 

[Sarcastic]

I'm listening to Bryan and Vinny episodes about TNA from 2012 to pass the time now.

 

[ColePens]

I would say Ziggler started mailing it in about a year ago. He delivers the promos WWE wants him to. He wrestles boring matches now. I don't think he's hungry at all.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Also seriously why the **** is Rybotch and Kalisto getting a ****ing singles match at Mania, and KO is in a multi-man IC match? I don't care if there will be good workers in it. A match like that still gets less prominence then a singles match.

I know its to soon for KO/Sami and AJ is busy, but for ****s sake stop wasting him and push this guy. He is one of the best things you have. He is one of the few heels in the ****ing company that can turn a smark crowd that loves him around and boo him. He can work circles around pretty much the entire roster. There are maybe like 5 guys on both rosters that can really hang with him. He is money on the mic. PUSH HIM!

 

[Emperoreddy]

I would say Ziggler started mailing it in about a year ago. He delivers the promos WWE wants him to. He wrestles boring matches now. I don't think he's hungry at all.

His last three matches I swear all had the same spot with him selling the same shoulder and crawling to beat the count out at 9. That is house show crap.

 

[ColePens]

He's also not doing his absurd hard-sells anymore, either. He looks to be preserving his body. That's a good thing for him because WWE didn't care anyway.

 

[Sarcastic]

I know he resigned recently but Ziggler could be the mystery guy who gave notice since he's doing nothing and won't be doing anything soon.

 

[Emperoreddy]

And ****ing Cole. Holy **** you ****ing geek mark. Can you scream any louder about Roman? Why not just flat out beg the audience to please love this man, because that what were you were doing you awful carnie.

You too Paul, your long winded promo trying to transfer Dean's real heat to Roman and then actually saying people love Roman. No one loves him Trips. We are in ****ing parody mode now with this stupid feud.

Like now this has to be a game by the guys in the back on who can book the title match build worse and everyone is taking ****ing turns. If Vince actually sat back there during that and thought it went well he should be committed.

The main event title match should be Brock/Dean. The crowd knows it. Brock and Dean know it. Heyman knows it and keeps saying it in his promos.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

Felt he was already on the way down before that feud, but ya that killed him dead.

Rusev isn't fine though. He is stuck in a ****** stable and is just making the most of it because he is great. Mania is going to be awful for him as he is going to lose in the tag match, and then become a butt monkey when Lana loses to Brie and a retired DB sends him packing and we will sit there and wish we got DB/Rusev instead.

Lana isn't working a one-on-one match with Brie. I think that's pretty clear after Raw.

Rusev is awesome and will always be awesome. He is fine.

I'm listening to Bryan and Vinny episodes about TNA from 2012 to pass the time now.

I listen to so many old episodes. If I see "rant" in the title on YouTube I listen.

I'm subscribing for a year instead of buying every single Walking Dead comic.

I would say Ziggler started mailing it in about a year ago. He delivers the promos WWE wants him to. He wrestles boring matches now. I don't think he's hungry at all.

Ziggler from 2010-2013 was so ****ing good. It's all been downhill for him after that Survivor Series where he beat The Authority and especially down after he dropped the IC Title. This guy just... I don't even know what he does anymore. His entire moveset is a superkick, a neckbreaker, an elbow drop and a zig-zag nowadays. It's all just his signature spots. When he's feeling inspired he'll throw in a top-rope X-Factor, but god damn has his in-ring work fallen.

I know he resigned recently but Ziggler could be the mystery guy who gave notice since he's doing nothing and won't be doing anything soon.

That's what I thought when I watched the segment live. I was thinking "is he about to legit quit here?" Or will WWE actually do an on-screen firing that's legit? I wouldn't be surprised, but again, he did just re-sign a two-year deal and they allow him to do his comedy on the side... I don't know why he'd leave those paychecks unless he can do even better on the comedy side.

 

[ColePens]

Not to add fuel to the fire, but it was extremely forced the way they were yelling during Roman's part. It just felt forced and that just pushes the crowd away even more. I wonder if social media caught on to that or if any of the podcasts mention it.

 

[Emperoreddy]

I'd be more inclined to guess that Titus was the one who gave notice.

I honestly have no idea what is up with Dolph's booking the past two weeks. First that handicap match last week, and now this. It feels like this should be leading somewhere, but its WWE so odds are its not. ROAD TO WRESTLEMANIA PEOPLE!

 

[ColePens]

****.. I think I just realized Bray was nowhere to be seen on Raw. He literally is just going to be featured in the Battle Royal.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Not to add fuel to the fire, but it was extremely forced the way they were yelling during Roman's part. It just felt forced and that just pushes the crowd away even more. I wonder if social media caught on to that or if any of the podcasts mention it.

Who those women or commentary? Commentary was WAY over the top. Cole needed to shut the **** up and just let it happen.

 

[ColePens]

Who those women or commentary? Commentary was WAY over the top. Cole needed to shut the **** up and just let it happen.

The commentary.

 

[Emperoreddy]

****.. I think I just realized Bray was nowhere to be seen on Raw. He literally is just going to be featured in the Battle Royal.

In a show flooded with filler and replays he couldn't even cut a ******** promo from his mystery room. Shows you where he is on the depth chart.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

****.. I think I just realized Bray was nowhere to be seen on Raw. He literally is just going to be featured in the Battle Royal.

Bray's back is in bad shape apparently.

 

[Emperoreddy]

The commentary.

It was just terrible. They are just screaming like banshees basically bashing us over the head with the idea Vince wants us to feel during the segment and it made it even more of a parody.

It was a JR BAH GAWD turned up to 11 and done really badly.

 

[Sarcastic]

I listen to so many old episodes. If I see "rant" in the title on YouTube I listen.

I'm subscribing for a year instead of buying every single Walking Dead comic.

That's what I thought when I watched the segment live. I was thinking "is he about to legit quit here?" Or will WWE actually do an on-screen firing that's legit? I wouldn't be surprised, but again, he did just re-sign a two-year deal and they allow him to do his comedy on the side... I don't know why he'd leave those paychecks unless he can do even better on the comedy side.

I'm at the part just before Aces and Eights show up and before the full reveal of Claire Lynch. They keep talking about how TNA is so much better than Raw and Smackdown because of Laurenitis.

I went to check for you and a year's subscription is $119.99 USD a year and all 3 of the current compendiums for the Walking Dead are $162.19 CDN combined on Amazon.

The reason Ziggler sorta makes sense to me is because Alvarez said people would be happy and he hates Ziggler now, Ziggler's matches being so vanilla/repetitive now, and the comedy stuff. Can't really think of anyone else besides Sheamus but he's set for life since he's buds with Hunter.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

^ I think I'm going to do 3 months to start actually. $32 USD instead.

This looks like the best thing of the whole Monday night (in WWE land)

 

[Paris in Flames]

Bray's back is in bad shape apparently.

I mean....Bray is one of my favourites but some time away might be the best thing for Wyatt as a character and wrestler.

I kinda like the idea of Bray just...disappearing. You could have Luke Harper (as the strongest of the Wyatt's outside of Bray on the mic) cut a promo about how they don't know where he is...how they're lost, etc etc. More time passes...HHH (who I assume has power still) recruits Luke, Rowan and Strowman to be his hired thugs and since they're lost and in search of a leader.....they go along willingly.

2-3 months pass...the Authority with Rowan, Harper and Strowman are beating down on whoever when...

Thus begins Bray turning his followers back to his side and he brings down the machine from the inside.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

Speaking of Ziggler, Vickie Guerrero did a shoot where she said Ziggler is one of the hardest working guys in the company but got extremely discouraged by the way the company wouldn't push him.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Honestly thinking about it more maybe it is Ziggler who gave notice because this was a classic burial right? Steph cuts his balls off in a promo, he loses clean to HHH, and gets upstaged by Roman (who could of come and helped him win but the new face that runs the place waited until AFTER the match ended).

We throw the word burial a lot around here, but this was definitely one (what the hell else could it be?).

Rewatching the final segment. Man Shane was Roman bad on the stick tonight. He fumbled almost every line. And again WHY won't someone give Taker a ****ing reason to do this fight?

I literally don't care if its something simple and slightly stupid that Vince is forcing him or he is fired. That is at least a reason. They have given zero reason. He is wrestling this match because...reasons.

It actually got more muddled. Vince thinks Taker is his puppet, and Shane thinks Taker is his puppet. Taker says no, but is doing what Vince wants anyway and his only defiance is giving Vince dirty looks. Who ****ing writes this ****?

 

[nameless1]

I mean....Bray is one of my favourites but some time away might be the best thing for Wyatt as a character and wrestler.

I kinda like the idea of Bray just...disappearing. You could have Luke Harper (as the strongest of the Wyatt's outside of Bray on the mic) cut a promo about how they don't know where he is...how they're lost, etc etc. More time passes...HHH (who I assume has power still) recruits Luke, Rowan and Strowman to be his hired thugs and since they're lost and in search of a leader.....they go along willingly.

2-3 months pass...the Authority with Rowan, Harper and Strowman are beating down on whoever when...

Thus begins Bray turning his followers back to his side and he brings down the machine from the inside.

That...
Would be awesome.


How are you not with Creative at this moment?