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WWE: Monday Night Raw thread #133: There is like three women screaming yes for Roman
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I hope the Podcast is something that gets done...would not only love to watch, but also participate under the lead of MCG
I was thinking of it as a subject.
It's just a matter of those participating consistently finding an agreement on which site to use, how much money to pool together, etc.
and then we can work out start dates and whatnot.
Hopefully it's something that can start by the summer.
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Emperoreddy
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If you had a podcast today a good subject would be to discuss whether WWE is really going to go through with the title match main event despite it being a total disaster, and what can do inside of their current booking to some how salvage this?
Short of pulling another Rollins type swerve I don't think they can save that match. The build to the match has just been awful. The supposed heel is getting cheered more than the supposed face. Then you've got that ridiculous segment last night. I feel like they've made their bed and just have to sleep in it now and deal with the consequences post Mania.
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I mean with two RAWs left the only thing I can even think of is having HHH just retain the title. I guess you could turn Roman during the match but I'm not even sure how.
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This is legit adorable, but also this is your top heel champ after the babyface beat him up.
And I feel sympathy for the ****ing heel!
They will maintain status quo here which is for Roman to win the title. That'll go over like a fart in church. If they want to save Roman's character and his potential to be marketable, he almost has to win the title regardless of how the fans react to it. He's been put in an unwinnable situation. He either loses at WrestleMania and still has a goose egg in legitimate big matches or he wins and gets booed out of the building at the biggest event and then the next night at the biggest TV night of the year. I don't count his Sheamus stuff and beating Ambrose at Survivor Series and in the Triple Threat. But the night after, they have to have Roman go down the Seth Rollins path.
Reigns as the heel corporate champion gives the fans what they want and possibly something watchable involving Reigns and him speaking because he doesn't have to fake anger in his promos and can just talk trash. Then you essentially throw someone like Ziggler or Styles or a returning Cesaro or a returning Cena until the inevitable Rollins return happens. Then you find a way to work Ambrose in there.
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Emperoreddy
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So turn him on the following raw? Might be the best choice but the end of mania is going to be bad.
And ya Fro that brawl was awful. It was a perfect storm of suck. Announcers screaming and being way over the top. Those crazy women. The crowd booing. HHH hurting a ref. Jack Swagger.
xtra
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I feel the only way to save this is for Rollins to come out and cost Roman the match....he's going to get booed but it will keep reigns as the face. However the next night Rollins turns on HHH and says to him, I only helped you so I could be the one to take the title from you.
HHH vs Rollins at Payback
HHH vs Rollins at Payback
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Yeah, it'll be bad at Mania but it's the perfect thing to use to turn him. His coronation as champion should be a speech that he won to spite the fans. I mean, it's an easy jump-off point for heel heat. Then if the idea is to have Shane win to be more of a face authority figure, you have an easy transition for Shane to start his run as running Raw with Reigns as a program and a way to maybe keep Triple H around as he could be backing him but more of a Paul Heyman type role.
Emperoreddy
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All that does is throw Roman back down the mid card and pretty much kill his career.
If there is any hope to make this guy any kind of draw they have to turn him.
Also Seth isn't ready for this yet and I don't think this is how he should be brought back. It's close to the same finish as last year. Fans will boo that.
Emperoreddy
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I mean it would definitely work long term and sets up the shield triple threat nicely when Seth does return (and a chance it they want to push Dean as the face. He still has that pin over HHH as title shot ammo)
It's basically an amputation to save the patient method as its cutting Mania off to save Roman and the product long term.
They need to start announcing things before the show. Surprises are nice, but to try and get eyeballs...let them know why its worth tuning in.
Get some hype. During some cuts, show the main event on Smackdown, off the top of the show, whats the main event for Raw? Why am I staying around for 3 hours.
Might not be huge, but I think it'd help.
Get some hype. During some cuts, show the main event on Smackdown, off the top of the show, whats the main event for Raw? Why am I staying around for 3 hours.
Might not be huge, but I think it'd help.
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They do though. The only recent surprises was Shane's return and Roman's.
They advertise all their current part timers before hand right now.
The fact they advertised Shane, Taker and Vince might of been the only reason hour 3 actually did better then hour 2 for the first time in weeks.
Everything is so down here (besides the possible podcast) I think I'm gonna post 5 positive things I liked on each show just to try to highlight some good things.
1. Jericho's promo was great. Really enjoying where the Jericho-Styles story is going and he's been great since the turn. Turned it up a notch since that moment. I hope it leads to big things for AJ.
2. Ziggler. His promo was great against HHH (HHH's promo was solid too imo). I felt the passion and realism behind it. His match vs HHH was a good one as well. It sucks that his storyline with Rusev dragged him down. Hopefully he can drag himself back out of that hole. He's still a good worker and can be a good promo when given the right situation. Maybe a storyline where he gets beaten down and eventually joins the Authority could be good for him.
3. Ambrose - Lesnar segment. I don't think it needs explaining. They've been gold and it's probably the match I'm looking forward to most.
4. New Day. Always great. Liked the roll up with the tights from Woods. I like that even as the face team, they still used that heelish tactic to win. Some shades of grey are always good imo. It sucks that the LON has looked like a bunch of boobs and not like credible threats. Stop having them wrestle the New Day. Have them beat other people. Build some credibility so they look like a threat. Which they don't.
5. Roman Reigns return. Most people will probably disagree with me and it's unfortunate they haven't booked Roman like this more. He's so much better when he doesn't talk and just kicks ass. Always. The silent ass kicker fit him so much better than the snarky joke of a face they made him. Stand alone though, it was a really good ring side brawl. A nice mess of stuff flying everywhere which is always fun...the screaming fan made it really funny too.
I doubt they can save Roman (maybe a heel turn vs Ambrose or something), but doing more of that would be a better direction to go.
From what I watched of the show, those were my favourite parts or most notable. I still have no idea what the hell Shane vs Taker is...none. They've lost me. The match might be fun, but the story is incredibly stupid.
1. Jericho's promo was great. Really enjoying where the Jericho-Styles story is going and he's been great since the turn. Turned it up a notch since that moment. I hope it leads to big things for AJ.
2. Ziggler. His promo was great against HHH (HHH's promo was solid too imo). I felt the passion and realism behind it. His match vs HHH was a good one as well. It sucks that his storyline with Rusev dragged him down. Hopefully he can drag himself back out of that hole. He's still a good worker and can be a good promo when given the right situation. Maybe a storyline where he gets beaten down and eventually joins the Authority could be good for him.
3. Ambrose - Lesnar segment. I don't think it needs explaining. They've been gold and it's probably the match I'm looking forward to most.
4. New Day. Always great. Liked the roll up with the tights from Woods. I like that even as the face team, they still used that heelish tactic to win. Some shades of grey are always good imo. It sucks that the LON has looked like a bunch of boobs and not like credible threats. Stop having them wrestle the New Day. Have them beat other people. Build some credibility so they look like a threat. Which they don't.
5. Roman Reigns return. Most people will probably disagree with me and it's unfortunate they haven't booked Roman like this more. He's so much better when he doesn't talk and just kicks ass. Always. The silent ass kicker fit him so much better than the snarky joke of a face they made him. Stand alone though, it was a really good ring side brawl. A nice mess of stuff flying everywhere which is always fun...the screaming fan made it really funny too.
I doubt they can save Roman (maybe a heel turn vs Ambrose or something), but doing more of that would be a better direction to go.
From what I watched of the show, those were my favourite parts or most notable. I still have no idea what the hell Shane vs Taker is...none. They've lost me. The match might be fun, but the story is incredibly stupid.
That's fine, but I mean advertise a match or two. Although the segment was great, why not announce HHH is wrestling on Raw before hand?
Would that hurt ratings?
Emperoreddy
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For a 3 hour show? Potentially yes. Surprises like that in theory keep people watching and give people a reason to stick around even if a segment they aren't a fan of is going on.
In practice not sure a HHH match is going to pull much right now. Especially against Dolph.
Actually sticking to what you announce would help too. Brock vs Bray turned into Brock vs Harper with Bray looking like a *****.
Emperoreddy
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Bray's apparently hurt with a back injury and that is why it was changed. He can't be taking bumps right now, especially getting tossed like a rag doll by Brock.
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