Speculation: Monahan forward most likely dealt first

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All top prospects are off the table here unless Drury is a drunkard and Gorton threatens his family.
-Perreault
-Othmann
-Sykora
-Garand
-Berard
-BMB
-Henriksson

Guys that should be in play
-Rempe
-Robertson
-Jones
-Edstrom
-Korczak
-Trivigno
-Lindbom
-Boyko

If Habs fans expect Drury to submit to them because "the Rangers are just soooo desperate right now right?"
I highly recommend waking up to reality. This is a 3 month rental we're talking about that's going to end up playing limited minutes on a competitive team in a 3C role. Monahan is not going to fetch what Giroux did a couple years ago. He's not worth a premium. Let it go.

In this case the Rangers don't seem like a good fit, maybe they go in a different direction ?
 
and why would Drury do any favors to Montreal?
Some GMs build up a relationship built on trust, not to the point of lopsided deals, but helping each other out; it could be as simple as a courtesy call to give someone one last chance to counter an offer for a player, etc.

There's a reason GMs often make more deals with the same teams - it's about the GMs trusting each other.

In this case, I guess it means NYR's offer would need to be the best one, because any kind of a tie-breaker will go to a team Hughes/Gorton like to deal with (say Treliving in Toronto, who they dealt with often in Calgary, or Colorado who they've dealt with as well).
 
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Leafs scouts were rumored to be in attendance in Pittsburgh yesterday to scout Monahan.

Could you imagine a world where Treliving spends a 1st for Monahan as a rental after spending a 1st to unload him less than 2 years ago?

That would be crazy. 🤣
Cgy didn't have faith he'd recover from his hip problems. And Treviling seemed like he just HAD to get Kadri. It was a very strange deal. And easily one of the biggest coups by a GM in recent history at the very least. If Kadri played like he did in Col, ppl would've turned a blind eye to it. Big gamble by him and he lost big.
 
I feel like the Avs or the Jets are the two top teams vying for his services. Just a matter of if either are willing to pay the price.

Most everything worth buying is available at the right price, I would get Monahan for the right price as a plan B or plan C option if he came cheap enough.

1st+ - no thx, other options out there I like much more.
1st - no thx, other options out there I like much more.
2nd rd pick - maybe if all my other options didn't turn out. He does some things decent, also has some big warts. Not happy about paying a 2nd rd pick but might consider it.
3rd rd pick - while I fully expect others to out bid that, thats what I feel happy paying, disposable 3rd pick for a guy consider purely disposable rental with no interest beyond this playoffs and fully accept his significant injury risks & warts.
 
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Currently 44th in NHL points by a center, 55% in face off won i.e 26th in the league and top 10 when excluding centers with low scoring stats, can play wing, second wave PP on most teams, high hockey IQ, has played with almost everyone in Montreal and made all of his line mates better, smart,…..
OK I am biased, love the guy, but in my opinion he would be 2c on most teams and definitely a great add to ANY team aspiring to go far.
Would not trade him for a first but rather for a top prospect if packaged with 1 our D like Harris, Strubble, Barron, Kovasevic. Actually I wish we would re-sign rather than trade him for a late first.
Yeah his IQ is what stands out the most and he's showing he doesn't need speed to still be effective.

Really impressed with him this year. I said he's worth a 2nd a month ago but he keeps growing on me. He's now worth a late first is where I'm at today for all the reasons you listed. That's not outlandish at all and some GM will pay for that if market is still there
 
Most everything worth buying is available at the right price, I would get Monahan for the right price as a plan B or plan C option if he came cheap enough.

1st+ - no thx, other options out there I like much more.
1st - no thx, other options out there I like much more.
2nd rd pick - maybe if all my other options didn't turn out. He does some things decent, also has some big warts. Not happy about paying a 2nd rd pick but might consider it.
3rd rd pick - while I fully expect others to out bid that, thats what I feel happy paying, disposable 3rd pick for a guy consider purely disposable rental with no interest beyond this playoffs and fully accept his significant injury risks & warts.
That's hilarious.

And please do educate us on these "big warts" since it seems you know so much about Monahans game this year.

It's a serious comedy show in this thread. Better than Yuk-Yuks by a mile.
 
Most everything worth buying is available at the right price, I would get Monahan for the right price as a plan B or plan C option if he came cheap enough.

1st+ - no thx, other options out there I like much more.
1st - no thx, other options out there I like much more.
2nd rd pick - maybe if all my other options didn't turn out. He does some things decent, also has some big warts. Not happy about paying a 2nd rd pick but might consider it.
3rd rd pick - while I fully expect others to out bid that, thats what I feel happy paying, disposable 3rd pick for a guy consider purely disposable rental with no interest beyond this playoffs and fully accept his significant injury risks & warts.
You have been pretty reasonable but what you just said doesn't make any sense. Have you seen Monahan's play lately? This is the best hockey I have seen him playing and he is only worth a 3rd from a contender? The Habs certainly will get a better offer. In case we didn't get a better offer, I would like the Habs to keep Monahan (even if he would walk at the end of the season). A few month of him mentoring our young players worth more than a 3rd round pick which the Habs had a lot in next couple of years.
 
2nd + okay prospect

Best chance at a 1st is Conditional 2nd that becomes a 1st based on the team advancing in the playoffs and Monahan having played in those games as the conditions
 
You have been pretty reasonable but what you just said doesn't make any sense. Have you seen Monahan's play lately? This is the best hockey I have seen him playing and he is only worth a 3rd from a contender? The Habs certainly will get a better offer. In case we didn't get a better offer, I would like the Habs to keep Monahan (even if he would walk at the end of the season). A few month of him mentoring our young players worth more than a 3rd round pick which the Habs had a lot in next couple of years.

I never stated his value was a 3rd pick, I stated thats what I would be happy paying (bc I see the 3rd pick & Monahan as disposable, no huge loss losing either, meaning as injury or UFA), huge difference. Matter of fact I stated I fully expected other teams to outbid that price. Seen him play lots on the Habs, he's far from my top pick at 2C this TDL (or even any position), but we have to wait to see who are the final centers available as teams fall off the playoffs. Nothing in my post is controversial or against anything I've posted previously. I just posted what most habs fans are applying as his value from a 1st+ to 2nd rd pick and everything in-between.

Lets say hypothetically all other centers at the TDL are unavailable or been traded already and Monahan is the last center standing (pun intended) and the Habs GM refuses to sell him for less then a 1st or 1st+ to the Jets. I would pass on Monahan totally, run with Names at 2C (while not as good offensively or at the FO, he's better in defensively) and upgrade our top 4 RHD (hopefully with term or willing to resign if a UFA) and bottom 6 forwards.
 
Darren Dreger on Insider Trading just said Sean Monahan most likely first forward traded. Boston, Colorado, Vancouver interested. Habs have agreement with Monahan to deal him to contending team of his choice.

Not quite. It was said that the agreement was a contender OR another team of Sean's choosing (i.e. if not a contender)
 
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Most everything worth buying is available at the right price, I would get Monahan for the right price as a plan B or plan C option if he came cheap enough.

1st+ - no thx, other options out there I like much more.
1st - no thx, other options out there I like much more.
2nd rd pick - maybe if all my other options didn't turn out. He does some things decent, also has some big warts. Not happy about paying a 2nd rd pick but might consider it.
3rd rd pick - while I fully expect others to out bid that, thats what I feel happy paying, disposable 3rd pick for a guy consider purely disposable rental with no interest beyond this playoffs and fully accept his significant injury risks & warts.
I don't believe the Habs have any intention of giving Monahan away for the scraps you would offer. Like i'm sure Hughes is rushing to give away Monahan for a pick in the range between 85th and 90th. This place is becoming a joke.
 
I don't believe the Habs have any intention of giving Monahan away for the scraps you would offer. Like i'm sure Hughes is rushing to give away Monahan for a pick in the range between 85th and 90th. This place is becoming a joke.

I never stated he would, heck I never even stated that was Monahan's value.......in fact I went out of my way to say my low offer wouldn't be the highest.
 
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I don't believe the Habs have any intention of giving Monahan away for the scraps you would offer. Like i'm sure Hughes is rushing to give away Monahan for a pick in the range between 85th and 90th. This place is becoming a joke.
Calm down Batman.

He's just saying Monahan's not the player he wants to invest in. No need to get emotional about it.

2nd + okay prospect

Best chance at a 1st is Conditional 2nd that becomes a 1st based on the team advancing in the playoffs and Monahan having played in those games as the conditions
I'm pretty sure there won't be any conditions on team performances. Only on his number of games played.
 
Calm down Batman.

He's just saying Monahan's not the player he wants to invest in. No need to get emotional about it.

Exactly. Not everyone values players around the league equally. I openly said my lower offer wouldn't be the highest, never did I say that was his value. I just don't see him as a good fit on the Jets for many reasons so naturally I wouldn't pay his highest value that some other team would pay.
 
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Most everything worth buying is available at the right price, I would get Monahan for the right price as a plan B or plan C option if he came cheap enough.

1st+ - no thx, other options out there I like much more.
1st - no thx, other options out there I like much more.
2nd rd pick - maybe if all my other options didn't turn out. He does some things decent, also has some big warts. Not happy about paying a 2nd rd pick but might consider it.
3rd rd pick - while I fully expect others to out bid that, thats what I feel happy paying, disposable 3rd pick for a guy consider purely disposable rental with no interest beyond this playoffs and fully accept his significant injury risks & warts.
What other options are out there that you like much more?

I need at least two here bro. I assume Lindholm is one of them. Henrique??
 
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All top prospects are off the table here unless Drury is a drunkard and Gorton threatens his family.
-Perreault
-Othmann
-Sykora
-Garand
-Berard
-BMB
-Henriksson

Guys that should be in play
-Rempe
-Robertson
-Jones
-Edstrom
-Korczak
-Trivigno
-Lindbom
-Boyko

If Habs fans expect Drury to submit to them because "the Rangers are just soooo desperate right now right?"
I highly recommend waking up to reality. This is a 3 month rental we're talking about that's going to end up playing limited minutes on a competitive team in a 3C role. Monahan is not going to fetch what Giroux did a couple years ago. He's not worth a premium. Let it go.

Since Monahan is going to be quite expensive in acquisition cost, would NYR possibly be interested in Ryan Johansen, who like Monahan, is probably a better fit for the Rangers than the Avs?

You can have Johansen for a 4th but Avs can be flexible.
 
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Most everything worth buying is available at the right price, I would get Monahan for the right price as a plan B or plan C option if he came cheap enough.

1st+ - no thx, other options out there I like much more.
1st - no thx, other options out there I like much more.
2nd rd pick - maybe if all my other options didn't turn out. He does some things decent, also has some big warts. Not happy about paying a 2nd rd pick but might consider it.
3rd rd pick - while I fully expect others to out bid that, thats what I feel happy paying, disposable 3rd pick for a guy consider purely disposable rental with no interest beyond this playoffs and fully accept his significant injury risks & warts.
Out of curiosity, what does Winnipeg do if plan A doesn’t work and Montreal doesn’t want to trade him for a second? Stand down and ride the current roster? If that’s the case, why are we seeing reports everywhere that says they are going to be aggressive on the market?
 
What other options are out there that you like much more?

I need at least two here bro. I assume Lindholm is one of them. Henrique??
In no particular order, key point being hard to say who will be available bc we don't even know yet who's in the playoffs so this is just spit balling at this stage until those standings are final (so hard to look into my crystal ball, some of my list likely won't be available and some new ones will be). This is just a list of guys I would sooner target at the TDL before Monahan, this is not a comprehensive list even (I know I'm forgetting 1-2 more players I've talked about in the past who might be available), just off the top of my head guys I would sooner have for various reasons and not position specific. I'm sure other Jets fans would be able to add to my list and have lists of their own, as you know no fan base agrees on these things 100% (Habs included). As I stated multi times most fans and management all are happy with Names job at 2C, we just wish we could get the same defensive ability with the offensive ability of a 60-70+ point center at 2C.......but those of course are hard to find but some of my list below fill that description or are enough of upgrade over Names to consider them. Another key point to know about the Jets is cap space is not an issue, they have lots for the TDL (5.5 million at this stage without a single player being traded away). Some of these players I like much more then Monahan and are better players IMO, some I think are similar value or less then Monahan trade value but are better fits on the Jets and fill needs on the Jets better. Some I like longer term, some shorter term so this is a mixed bag in my list but thats what you asked me for.

Tanev
Adam H
Lindholm
Sean W
Casey M
Claude G
Pinto
Jake G
Boone J
Trevor Z
Frank Vatrano
Travis Konecny

As nearly all my posts have stated, I would take Monahan at the TDL for a cheap enough price (which is less then what all Habs fans to get for him), but he's far from my top target, TBH he's likely not in my top 10 targets I would go after (all positions included). Monahan will be traded (IMO), the Habs will get more in return from some team then I would offer, which is perfectly fine bc other teams have a bigger need then the Jets do at 2C so others will pay more then me which is natural. He's just not a great fit IMO on the Jets for what most are asking for him, especially if one reads the Habs trade board where some habs fans expectations seem much higher then this thread is. Monahan & Lindholm are far from the only targets out there, just happens Monahan is the most advertised in the media........multi reasons for that, one is clearly Monahan wants to be traded and the Habs want to trade him.......but also has to do with its the Habs
 
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Out of curiosity, what does Winnipeg do if plan A doesn’t work and Montreal doesn’t want to trade him for a second? Stand down and ride the current roster? If that’s the case, why are we seeing reports everywhere that says they are going to be aggressive on the market?

Long list for targets IMO for the Jets to go after, see above, that list is far from a complete list, thats just what I thought of off the top of my head in 2-3 mins, once the playoff teams are set we will know far more who's all available or not
 
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