Speculation: Monahan forward most likely dealt first

[Habs10025]

He can decide where he goes.


Habs have to be legit out of race before he's moved

Monahan can't block any trade Hughes decides when and where he's traded multiple contenders and has the final say Monahan doesn't need to like the contending team he's traded to

 

[HuGort]

Monahan can't block any trade Hughes decides when and where he's traded multiple contenders and has the final say Monahan doesn't need to like the contending team he's traded to

https://www.tvasports.ca/2024/01/11/ch-monahan-devrait-changer-dadresse-dici-la-date-limite-des-transactions

 

[General Fanager]

Monahan can't block any trade Hughes decides when and where he's traded multiple contenders and has the final say Monahan doesn't need to like the contending team he's traded to

While I think that is true, there is a verbal agreement that he will get to pick.

 

[JustAHabFan]

Late 1st or 2nd for Monahan is fine with me because we already got a 1st for him from Calgary. Anything for Monahan now is just bonus.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Alright, so several people who are clearly fans of other teams, and don't watch Monahan play, are arguing that he is NOT a second line centre. If they don't watch the Habs and can provide no substantive feedback, they must be relying on stats....right?

So where is Monahan in terms of stats?

First off, if we are considering stats, let's look at defining a 2nd line centre. I've always said, the top 32 centres in the league could be considered a 1st line centre (obviously some teams have more than one) and the next 32 would be second line centres. Therefore top 64 centres are 2nd line or better.

Based on stats here is Monahan compared to other centres league wide...

24 pts - currently 60th in total points for a centremen
.59 PPG (with at least 25 games played) - currently 71st
Faceoff % (minimum 25 games played - currently 10th

So there you have it.....60th in points, 71st in PPG and 10th in faceoff %.

IMO, the faceoff percentage bumps up his value slightly. Puck possession and the ability to put a guy out who will win faceoff's in both the offensive and defensive side is important.

Add in the fact that Monahan (when not on the Habs anemic PP) is usually paired with scrubs, I would confidently say that he could have better points and PPG totals.

Anyone who has watched him this year, would say that his play would fit right in with what the stats are showing.

Now, if you want to calculate value, you have to factor in his cap hit for the remainder of the season.

Should the Habs decide to retain 50% on him, he can be had for the nice amount of $500k in real money.

All this to say....yes he is a second line centre, albeit a lower end one. But a second line centre that comes very cheap.



PS....I left out intangibles on purpose.....but if I was a playoff team looking for playoff leadership, I would look no further than this guy.

Now tell me where he ranks among centers in 5v5 scoring. And try to do so without making excuses for him.

 

[lionsDen]

Monahan on the PK the other night. Imagine putting a player that can't skate, can't play defense on the pk. We get it you just don't like the Habs.


Ya even the insiders are bringing it up.

And anyone who follows knows how the Avs work, and notice key words, I think, if I’m them, etc. it’s called speculation… if you hear Lebrun say it, there’s possibilities… he’s the only one I acknowledge

 

[cc]

Dreger speculated how attractive he is to certain teams based on positional needs rather than fit. Among those teams speculated that included the Avs, Boston, Edm and Washington, I see the Avs being maybe the worst fit of the 4 for Monahan in terms of how the Avs like to play.

 

[Homesick]

Now tell me where he ranks among centers in 5v5 scoring. And try to do so without making excuses for him.

Those 11 ESP are screaming 1st rounder all day. He won't be getting 18 minutes a night or PP time on a contender. I don't think they'd really want him on the PK either

 

[MXD]

Montreal called up and AHL player for no apparent reason.

 

[Johnny HFBOARDS]

Monahan like to be moved first, but not for a first.

Well that's a 1st

Montreal called up and AHL player for no apparent reason.

Maybe for a run at HF's most prized award!










1st overall

 

[ElPrimeTime]

2nd and a B prospect, maybe less if Monahan says he only wants to go to one place. Then you hope he pulls a Bjugstad and re-signs in the offseason back with the Habs for cheap.

 

[AcerComputer]

Leafs danggling a 3rd round pick + Tyler Biggs

 

[HuGort]

Leafs danggling a 3rd round pick + Tyler Biggs

I highly doubt it. Leafs seem really cheap. Only offered a 6th for Allen. Allen has .924,% save percentage in playoffs. He's best money goalie on market

 

[Habs10025]

While I think that is true, there is a verbal agreement that he will get to pick.

Says the so called insider that said Crosby would ask for a trade 2 years ago again last season and he'll likely repeat the same this season and until he signs an extension with Pittsburgh.

 

[bringbacktheskate604]

Yeah they most certainly do...

They all probably have the assets but if it's between those 3 teams and it becomes who can put the best offer on the table, it's Vancouver. They all have the draft picks but Vancouver has far more prospects.

A combo of,Lekkerimakki, Hunter, a 1st, are likely on the table in the right deal

The Zadorov trade showed no qualms about dealing with Vancouver and given Rutherford's gunslinger mentality and Alvin's trade history, I could see a massive trade involving Lindholm and Tanev coming here as a package both @ 50% retained.

 

[HuGort]

It's according to agreement Monahan has with Hughes. If Montreal had to trade him to one team odds are return be weak

 

[ole ole]

Leafs danggling a 3rd round pick + Tyler Biggs

Ya that should get you Armia.

 

[lionsDen]

They all probably have the assets but if it's between those 3 teams and it becomes who can put the best offer on the table, it's Vancouver. They all have the draft picks but Vancouver has far more prospects.

A combo of,Lekkerimakki, Hunter, a 1st, are likely on the table in the right deal

The Zadorov trade showed no qualms about dealing with Vancouver and given Rutherford's gunslinger mentality and Alvin's trade history, I could see a massive trade involving Lindholm and Tanev coming here as a package both @ 50% retained.

Make a thread about Vancouver and leave Colorado out of it, we ain’t buying. Not for anything more then a 3rd…

Ya that should get you Armia.

Colorado wants a first just to take monohab

 

[John Mandalorian]

Make a thread about Vancouver and leave Colorado out of it, we ain’t buying. Not for anything more then a 3rd…


Colorado wants a first just to take monohab

If the rumor on the Avs board is true, it's a moot point. It's kind of hard to believe the rumor though.

 

[lionsDen]

If the rumor on the Avs board is true, it's a moot point. It's kind of hard to believe the rumor though.

What do we say, if it didn’t come from Lebrun, don’t believe it. I haven’t seen any tweets about it. I don’t even know where that came from. I asked about it, and another poster essentially …hey you got another one as in they were pulling my chain.

 

[Habs 4 Life]

Dreger speculated how attractive he is to certain teams based on positional needs rather than fit. Among those teams speculated that included the Avs, Boston, Edm and Washington, I see the Avs being maybe the worst fit of the 4 for Monahan in terms of how the Avs like to play.

I believe KH this week or last mentioned he wouldn't trade with Toronto or Boston pretty clearly

 

[John Mandalorian]

What do we say, if it didn’t come from Lebrun, don’t believe it. I haven’t seen any tweets about it. I don’t even know where that came from. I asked about it, and another poster essentially …hey you got another one as in they were pulling my chain.

A poster claimed to have a source.

 

[lionsDen]

A poster claimed to have a source.

I’d put more confidence using toilet paper as a rope to propel off a cliff. Just looking for attention.

 

[John Mandalorian]

I’d put more confidence using toilet paper as a rope to propel off a cliff. Just looking for attention.

It would be nice even if it would sting. But again, a little hard to believe. For many it's probably "believe it when I see it."

 

[Buffdog]

It's according to agreement Monahan has with Hughes. If Montreal had to trade him to one team odds are return be weak

Hughes can call Chevy in Winnipeg to get a lesson on how to pull one of those trades off. He's done it multiple times