Post-Game Talk: Mon Lars leads Pens past the Habs 6-3

[OneSharpMarble]

We didn't lose this game because of a third pairing dman. People just love to hate him.

 

[Habs7631]

Anyway, I don't want to be right about this kid's flaws but the more I watch him the more I don't see anyone that can help us.

You don’t think Hutson can help us?

 

[Rapala]

Bottom line for me Pittsburgh is a team we should be able to pull points from.

 

[Tyson]

I saw the highlight of Heineman's goal. The youngster skates well and has a lethal shot. If he keeps up I can see him moving up into the top 6. No rush.

 

[Habano]

I loved the prime feed because I finally watched a game in English without having to put up with the bullshit that comes with TSN and SN.

 

[Canadienna]

It's because they didn't see the Hutson on the ice. They saw the one in their dreams.

Nah you're just shit at evaluating talent if you think he's just a PP specialist.

 

[Apoplectic Habs Fan]

Despite the sky falling, 2 -2, 4 games in 6 nights

Probably should take it

 

[Canadienna]

You don’t think Hutson can help us?

He's just trying to cover for his asinine takes on Hutson a few weeks ago before the season started by jumping on him and making things up.

 

[417]

We didn't lose this game because of a third pairing dman. People just love to hate him.

Its become such a generic take lol.

 

[LDX]

Did we watch the same game? I'm quite on the Hutson bandwagon, but I found his game tonight quite horrible. No? They abused him, he ends with -4. Again I love him but how can you say he played good tonight?

 

[waffledave]

For perspective, Makar is currently -2 after 2 periods and honestly they were both on him.

 

[Habs7631]

He's just trying to cover for his asinine takes on Hutson a few weeks ago before the season started by jumping on him and making things up.

Like it’s ok if you don’t want to drink the Hutson koolaid, for sure this fanbase is going crazy over him and he has flaws. But to say he can’t help this team? He can absolutely help this team like bro what???

 

[MarkovsKnee]

I didn't see the game tonight, but lots of you are saying that Guhle and Hutson were the only good defensemen tonight.

Hutson was a -4 tonight... worst on the team, yet he was solid?

Elaborate?

I don't know about solid, but he was left alone on a couple of occasions.

One minus was from an ENG. Good shot by Malkin pass Matheson from 10 feet inside his own blue line.

Another was essentially a 3 on 1. Savard tried to block a pass in the neutral zone & went down. Pens flew up the ice. Hutson thinking he had help (he didn't) went man on man with the puck carrier. He threw it across for a 2 on 0 on Montembeault. Hutson could have played it better, but the 2 Pens forwards beat both of Montreal's backckecking forwards to the net. Savard was nowhere.

On another goal, Anderson panicks on the boards & instead of eating it, throws an atrocious pass backward to Hutson who is covered. Then Anderson doesn't bother to follow his guy to the net. Hutson takes his guy down low, the puck gets sent out front, and no one is covering anybody in front. Hayes scores off a rebound. He is completely unbothered.

Finally, Hutson goes low into the offensive corner to try for some offense in 3rd, as Montreal is down one. No one backs him up. He's caught. Matheson takes his man on the rush, but no one takes the 2 Pens going to the net. Another f***ing 2 on 0 in front of Montembeault.

The atrocious defense was a team wide affair and the only blameless players are Guhle & Montembeault. 2 of the goals against Montembeault were 2 on 0s. Then an open side tap-in by Hayes & an ENG.

Guhle was outstanding in shutting down Crosby, so Malkin did the damage.

 

[JustAHabFan]

I agree with you that's why I wanted him in the A. To tweak his defensive game.

I don't think so. Hutson will learn more playing in the NHL. We will make a lot of mistakes but with his hockey IQ will progress rapidly by learning from his mistakes + his teammates will learn how to support him better.

 

[Andrei79]

But he ain't and he's not.

If Hutson was 5 inches taller and 40lbs heavier he’d be LH Makar

But he ain't.

We have a young D…whether it be Barron, Struble, Xhekaj, Hutson, Mailloux.

Mistakes are going to happen and we need to be patient and not always bury them and magnify every single mistake.

Or else its going to be a long year for some of you.

I'll add the forwards as well. Many, many missed assignments and bad reads. The top 6 is filled with sub 25 players and it the inexperience shows. They need mileage and a lot of video.

 

[Gally11]

Man the f*** up Marty and staple Matheson to the bench with the man advantage. And why is he up high on the point 6v5 with Hutson on the side to take one timers? Stupid coaching

That was hard to watch, St Louis honeymoon might be over soon if he keeps that up

 

[Andrei79]

I don't know about solid, but he was left alone on a couple of occasions.

One minus was from an ENG. Good shot by Malkin pass Matheson from 10 feet inside his own blue line.

Another was essentially a 3 on 1. Savard tried to block a pass in the neutral zone & went down. Pens flew up the ice. Hutson thinking he had help (he didn't) went man on man with the puck carrier. He threw it across for a 2 on 0 on Montembeault. Hutson could have played it better, but the 2 Pens forwards beat both of Montreal's backckecking forwards to the net. Savard was nowhere.

On another goal, Anderson panicks on the boards & instead of eating it, throws an atrocious pass backward to Hutson who is covered. Then Anderson doesn't bother to follow his guy to the net. Hutson takes his guy down low, the puck gets sent out front, and no one is covering anybody in front. Hayes scores off a rebound. He is completely unbothered.

Finally, Hutson goes low into the offensive corner to try for some offense in 3rd, as Montreal is down one. No one backs him up. He's caught. Matheson takes his man on the rush, but no one takes the 2 Pens going to the net. Another f***ing 2 on 0 in front of Montembeault.

The atrocious defense was a team wide affair and the only blameless players are Guhle & Montembeault. 2 of the goals against Montembeault were 2 on 0s. Then an open side tap-in by Hayes & an ENG.

Guhle was outstanding in shutting down Crosby, so Malkin did the damage.

Aside from a few differing details on the goals, we saw much of the same.

I think we mostly all agree that Guhle is outstanding.

 

[Zalos]

The first goal Savard fell but Hutson played it wrong. You either commit to pressing the puck carrier or stay in the middle of the ice. He did neither. He simply skated half-heartedly towards the puck carrier. Anyway, I don't want to be right about this kid's flaws but the more I watch him the more I don't see anyone that can help us.

I would trade him for another Guhle in a heart beat.

I think I found Bob Gainey's HFboards account. Gotta be the dumbest takes about Lane I've read yet.

 

[Gally11]

Did we watch the same game? I'm quite on the Hutson bandwagon, but I found his game tonight quite horrible. No? They abused him, he ends with -4. Again I love him but how can you say he played good tonight?

I’d say 2 of those were related to his size, other two was poor coverage from other people on the ice. I think some nights we’ll see that but offensive upside is more than worth it, but we’ll need him to be on PP1 to capitalize and come out net positive.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

I'll add the forwards as well. Many, many missed assignments and bad reads. The top 6 is filled with sub 25 players and it the inexperience shows. They need mileage and a lot of video.

Yup, forwards were chasing back all night & leaving the D with too many odd man rushes. It was a terrible defensive effort by everyone. Guhle was exceptional.

 

[vokiel]

We didn't lose this game because of a third pairing dman. People just love to hate him.

We lost this game because the Pens played pretty much all our dmen in their own zone.

How many defensive battles did the Habs win?

 

[JustAHabFan]

I blamed the ref on the 5th goal. Anderson got tripped near the Pens net. A penalty should have been called. No penalty was called and the Pens scored on the counter attack.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Overall, 2-2 after 4 games with 4 games in 6 nights isn't a bad start. They get a couple of days off now before they play the Kings on Thursday.

The important thing is to make sure they don't slump too badly. None of those 1-8-1 runs can happen this year.

A .500 year is a good step up.

 

[Habs7631]

How many defensive battles did the Habs win?

Watching this team compared to a team like Florida/Dallas in that department is night and day. Our forecheck is straight up trash compared to elite teams and we’re way too soft along the boards.

But super young team and once they get rid of the deadwood it will get better.

 

[Kennedys]

The only thing i can say about this game is of all the reasons as to why the Habs lost this game. Lane Hutson is not one of them.