GDT: Hockey Club @ Devils - 1:00 PM - MSG

[Bleedred]

Reminder we lost twice to this team last year. The sadder version of them

Well this year's version of them has to be even sadder because all I keep hearing is how they're an expansion team!

 

[DerekDevils30]

I completely underestimated Noesen’s play making ability. I swear he makes several excellent passes a game that lead to high danger chances or goals. He’s especially effective below the goal line making quick behind the back passes to the front of the net. And of course his grit and net front ability we all know about. Great addition

 

[Its Always Sundstrom]

When was the last time we heard from another team that we're well coached?

You can take the team out of Arizona, but you can't take Arizona out of the team.

We all know how tough it is to get rid of sand.

 

[Billdo]

I completely underestimated Noesen’s play making ability. I swear he makes several excellent passes a game that lead to high danger chances or goals. He’s especially effective below the goal line making quick behind the back passes to the front of the net. And of course his grit and net front ability we all know about. Great addition

He's an interesting case study from a development perspective. He was good here but transformed into a diff player in Carolina. Rare at his age.

 

[Bleedred]

He's an interesting case study from a development perspective. He was good here but transformed into a diff player in Carolina. Rare at his age.

Sometimes I think that he's late 30s. He has an older look about him. Probably the oldest looking player on the team, which he's not. Markstrom, Allen, Tatar, Dillon and Palat are all older than him. Dougie was born the same year, I can't recall who was born first.

I almost thought he was 30-31 the first time he played here, even though he didn't play many NHL games before he got here. I think I may be getting him confused with Brian Gibbons, who actually was 30 years old when he played here, and didn't have much NHL experience before he got here.

I think we got Noesen as a waiver pickup from....I can't remember if he was with Ottawa or Anaheim? I think it goes he was drafted by Ottawa, but was traded to Anaheim in the Bobby Ryan trade?

Haula is also older than him. For some reason I had Haula a couple of years younger than he actually is.

 

[Dialamo]

I completely underestimated Noesen’s play making ability. I swear he makes several excellent passes a game that lead to high danger chances or goals. He’s especially effective below the goal line making quick behind the back passes to the front of the net. And of course his grit and net front ability we all know about. Great addition

I memory holed the 18-19 season to the 21-22 season. Anyone remember why Noesen flamed out with us initially? I only remember him being solid for us in 17-18 and solid for Carolina.

Sometimes I think that he's late 30s. He has an older look about him. Probably the oldest looking player on the team, which he's not. Markstrom, Allen, Tatar, Dillon and Palat are all older than him. Dougie was born the same year, I can't recall who was born first.

I almost thought he was 30-31 the first time he played here, even though he didn't play many NHL games before he got here. I think I may be getting him confused with Brian Gibbons, who actually was 30 years old when he played here, and didn't have much NHL experience before he got here.

I think we got Noesen as a waiver pickup from....I can't remember if he was with Ottawa or Anaheim? I think it goes he was drafted by Ottawa, but was traded to Anaheim in the Bobby Ryan trade?

Haula is also older than him. For some reason I had Haula a couple of years younger than he actually is.

The Noesen photo the Devils broadcast has does him dirty. The pic is so bad it makes him look like a chain-smoking 47 year old. The hair loss doesn't help either.

 

[Cheddabombs]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1845872529912877520

Somehow missed this gem. Gives the meat line a whole new meaning

 

[Bleedred]

I memory holed the 18-19 season to the 21-22 season. Anyone remember why Noesen flamed out with us initially? I only remember him being solid for us in 17-18 and solid for Carolina.

The Noesen photo the Devils broadcast has does him dirty. The pic is so bad it makes him look like a chain-smoking 47 year old. The hair loss doesn't help either.

He got injured (I don't remember what it was) in 18-19 and his play dropped off quite a bit. I think he even missed a significant amount of games that season, and was ineffective when he did play.

We let him walk after that year, as he was a UFA or maybe he was even an RFA who we didn't tender an offer to? Was he with Pittsburgh the next year? I can't remember. I think he was mostly in the AHL for Pittsburgh that next year. I know he's been in the Canes org since the 2021 covid season (I think?) and I think he went back and forth between the AHL and NHL up until either the next year or the year after.

Noesen, Coleman, Gibbons (who was older than the other two by a few years) and Boyle (who was well into his 30s by then) were all surprises in the bottom 6 for us in that 17-18 season. Maybe not Boyle so much, he had been around for a while, but the other three were not NHL regulars just the season before that.

Gibbons faded back into obscurity and didn't stick in the NHL after that, but the other two guys wound up having good NHL careers. Obviously Coleman more than Noesen.

 

[JrFischer54]

Take it from someone that’s seen 1 period this year but goaltending has been solid!

 

[Maine Fan]

I was so glad to see that the Devils stopped the Utah's winning streak. They had a terrific game.

I bought the Devils Streaming package for $297 and then when the 1:00 PM today's game was on, I found myself in the ER from 11:30 AM until 6 PM so I missed the game.

I have a chance tomorrow to watch the Carolina game.

Go Devils

 

[NjDevsRR]

I was so glad to see that the Devils stopped the Utah's winning streak. They had a terrific game.

I bought the Devils Streaming package for $297 and then when the 1:00 PM today's game was on, I found myself in the ER from 11:30 AM until 6 PM so I missed the game.

I have a chance tomorrow to watch the Carolina game.

Go Devils

Hope you are on the mend. Enjoy the game!

 

[Nubmer6]

I was so glad to see that the Devils stopped the Utah's winning streak. They had a terrific game.

I bought the Devils Streaming package for $297 and then when the 1:00 PM today's game was on, I found myself in the ER from 11:30 AM until 6 PM so I missed the game.

I have a chance tomorrow to watch the Carolina game.

Go Devils

Ugh. Sorry to hear that.

I spent most of the day with my mom in the ER, but at least I managed to catch the game

Get better.

 

[Jersey Fan 12]

And we get goaltending too for a change when it matters.

Gave up 20 shots - most of them harmless. Funny how they get "goaltending" when the team defends.

 

[My3Sons]

I was so glad to see that the Devils stopped the Utah's winning streak. They had a terrific game.

I bought the Devils Streaming package for $297 and then when the 1:00 PM today's game was on, I found myself in the ER from 11:30 AM until 6 PM so I missed the game.

I have a chance tomorrow to watch the Carolina game.

Go Devils

Hopefully all is well now. Good to hear you got home after medical treatment.

 

[Bcap88]

Team is really buying into what Sheldon is selling.

9 goals allowed in 5 games without sacrificing offense. So far so good.

A win tomorrow against Carolina and it will be close to a perfect start to the season

 

[My3Sons]

Team is really buying into what Sheldon is selling.

9 goals allowed in 5 games without sacrificing offense. So far so good.

A win tomorrow against Carolina and it will be close to a perfect start to the season

It’s probably those PhDs in theoretical physics.

 

[My3Sons]

Ugh. Sorry to hear that.

I spent most of the day with my mom in the ER, but at least I managed to catch the game

Get better.

Ugh. Hopefully it went well and she’s home now? Aging parents are no joke.

 

[Nubmer6]

Ugh. Hopefully it went well and she’s home now? Aging parents are no joke.

Na. Keeping her at least overnight. Third time in last couple months. Between her, my 88 y/o Dad and GFs 93 y/o mother, I got my hands full. Simultaneously trying to start a business too, but at least it makes my time flexible. I just find it extremely difficult finding the time to get more than 5-6 hours of sleep a night. I'm getting kinda tired of this.

 

[Guttersniped]

Definitely not remembering his start to 22/23 correctly. He was visibly rusty to start that year. The stats also back that up.

xGF% Team Ranking per game via Natural Stat Trick

2022-2023

Game 1: 12th (13th 5 v 5)

Game 2: 3rd (8th 5 v 5)

Game 3: 7th (10th 5 v 5)

Game 4: 6th (9th 5 v 5)

Game 5: 6th (3rd 5 v 5)

Game 6: 13th (17th 5 v 5) !!

1 goal, 2 assists, -2


2024-2025

Game 1: 6th (7th 5 v 5)

Game 2: 10th (6th 5 v 5)

Game 3: 1st (5th 5 v 5)

Game 4: 7th (6th 5 v 5)

Game 5: 2nd (6th 5 v 5)

0 goals, 3 assists, +3


It can be argued that had had a better start this season than 22/23


Its all semantics. Jack is an incredible player and he will get going as he always has. Way too many posters get on way too many players cases too early every season. I just never understood that.

Going by xGF% ranking is a bit misleading because the 22–23 team started out as absolute analytic monsters.

Here’s some of the Forwards (5 min minimum) 5v5 individual stats from Nat Stat Trick:

2022-23 (1st 6 games)

Vs
2024-25


As you can see, Jack was creating a lot more shots, and better quality ones, as was the whole team in 2022-23. He needs to get back to doing that.

Jack also played a lot more 5v5 in those first 6 games.

2022-23 5v5 TOI

vs
2024-25 5v5 TOI


Here’s those stats on the PP:
2022-23

Vs
2024-25


Jack is generating more on the PP this season in this comparison. (Taking Meier off of PP1 might not be the best idea but finding the right mix for that unit is a tough nut to crack.)

So far we’re drawing a lot of penalties this year and Jack’s had more PP time. Obviously need to start cashing in on that.


2022-23 PP TOI

vs
2024-25 PP TOI

 

[Saugus]

It’s probably those PhDs in theoretical physics.

But enough about Dougie’s weekend plans…

 

[NjDevsRR]

@JK3 make us proud again with tomorrow’s GDT

 

[Emperoreddy]

I was so glad to see that the Devils stopped the Utah's winning streak. They had a terrific game.

I bought the Devils Streaming package for $297 and then when the 1:00 PM today's game was on, I found myself in the ER from 11:30 AM until 6 PM so I missed the game.

I have a chance tomorrow to watch the Carolina game.

Go Devils

Highlights if you have a chance to watch.

 

[Nubmer6]

Highlights if you have a chance to watch.

Have we scored on ANY breakaways yet this year?

 

[NjDevsRR]

Have we scored on ANY breakaways yet this year?

Does Cotter against Buffalo count?

 

[Nubmer6]

Does Cotter against Buffalo count?

It wasn't really a breakaway