OT: MLB Thread XLV

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How many times has a player signed a deal that is at least two years, and then not played a single game for the team that signed him? Excluding like a voided contract or prospects or whatever.

EDIT: I just read that he had 8 ABs late last season, which I totally forgot about. Didn't play in the field. Still, that has to be one of the smallest returns on a multi-year deal in recent memory.
 
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How many times has a player signed a deal that is at least two years, and then not played a single game for the team that signed him? Excluding like a voided contract or prospects or whatever.

EDIT: I just read that he had 8 ABs late last season, which I totally forgot about. Didn't play in the field. Still, that has to be one of the smallest returns on a multi-year deal in recent memory.

May we all cherish the one walk he drew
 
This off-season, I liked bringing in Wacha, Porcello, Betances, and Marisnick. I thought those were all good additions. Too early to tell with a draft just completed, but all indications are the Mets got very good value and did quite well.

Obviously, the Cano/Diaz deal is so far a huge failure. Those two could have decent rebound seasons that could make the deal look substantially better (or much worse, depending). The JD Davis deal looks like it could be a really good one (neither Adolph not Santana are special). The Stroman deal is tough--because of the short season they're getting less from him than they otherwise would have, but at the same time, he could be a difference-maker this year (Anthony Kay is probably nothing significant; SWR could be great, he could flame out, he could be great in the back of a bullpen, who knows). All together, I like this deal. He wisely picked up Justin Wilson and Brad Brach. Avilan seemed like a smart acquisition but didn't pan out. Familia, the term was probably too much but he looked good as the setup man in Oakland--I liked that deal, too, and still hold out hope he can be a contributor. Lowrie was also a big swing and a miss, although who could have seen this coming? And again, the draft received high marks for the value they were able to get with Matthew Allan in round three.

It's the Cano/Diaz deal right now that turns what I would argue is an otherwise pretty solid resume into one that is somewhat disappointing. The short season affords a unique opportunity however as if Cano and/or Diaz are able to rebound and help the Mets make the postseason, the deal looks less bad. And while I'm fairly certain that both Kelenic and Dunn will be at least an average OF and good reliever, they still haven't established themselves yet. So, we'll see.

I don't necessarily think it's a given that Brodie is gone under new ownership, but who knows.
 
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to be fair on Lowrie too. EVERYONE loved that signing. Myself included. I can't kill Brodie for that one.

(I'm definitely going to continue to make fun of the situation though)

lol, EVERYONE did not love it. The sting from moving Kelenic and bailing out the Mariners from a bad Cano contract still lingered. Bringing in Lowrie who was solid in Oakland like many still had a buyer beware tag.

I never thought he would be this injured but we historically saw the Mets buy high and sell low so this wasn’t love. The Bobby Bonilla, Luis Castillo, Jason Bay, etc. moves keep everybody in a wait and see mode. Especially with this Ownership and a talkative GM.
 
lol, EVERYONE did not love it. The sting from moving Kelenic and bailing out the Mariners from a bad Cano contract still lingered. Bringing in Lowrie who was solid in Oakland like many still had a buyer beware tag.

I never thought he would be this injured but we historically saw the Mets buy high and sell low so this wasn’t love. The Bobby Bonilla, Luis Castillo, Jason Bay, etc. moves keep everybody in a wait and see mode. Especially with this Ownership and a talkative GM.

It was as universal as HFNYR MLB gets.

I went back to check. Everyone loved Lowrie. Everyone hated DJ Mathieu. Lol

Maybe we all suck at this :laugh:

OT: - MLB Discussion Thread: Part XXV
 
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It was as universal as HFNYR MLB gets.

I went back to check. Everyone loved Lowrie. Everyone hated DJ Mathieu. Lol

Maybe we all suck at this :laugh:

OT: - MLB Discussion Thread: Part XXV

i’m sure there were some who loved the Cano deal too lol.

It’s part of the inferiority complex or some neurological defect among the fan base which views every move as a gem and every prospect is “amazing”. “Rosario has a cannon!!!” His arm isn’t even close to Reyes lol.
 
I think the Mets can spend $35M-$40M better on something other than an OF. Not that he wouldn't improve the team, but I think there are more pressing needs than the OF.
 
I think the Mets can spend $35M-$40M better on something other than an OF. Not that he wouldn't improve the team, but I think there are more pressing needs than the OF.
I think catcher is the only infield position needing an upgrade. I think the Mets will need another OFer as I'm not sure the Mets will resign Conforto after next year. And then maybe a starter. If the DH is permanent they will need to sign one as I don't see Cespedes being here next year.
 
Yeah the bulked up guys do so much better...

no one said that. You can lift like crazy and still train stupid. Syndergaard is like exhibit A for that.

Having a body that looks like it’s made out of peanut shells isn’t really going to hold up either.

12 years is insane, but they should get at least 4-5 good seasons out of him.
 
I think catcher is the only infield position needing an upgrade. I think the Mets will need another OFer as I'm not sure the Mets will resign Conforto after next year. And then maybe a starter. If the DH is permanent they will need to sign one as I don't see Cespedes being here next year.

if Cohen is on board for this offseason, Realmuto is probably going to be a Met. That should be target #1 when the offseason comes, if he is available. Ramos has been good, but Realmuto is the best C in the league.

Not sure I see them spending on a pitcher. Thor comes back halfway through. Maybe they'll pay Stroman, but they have about 4 starters that are on the cusp of being big leaguers. Szapucki, Peterson, Smith, and Kilome are in their player pool. All are AA pitchers and are legit prospects, just not upper end rotation pieces. These are the guys that are the next man up if someone goes down.

Can see them do the 1 year stop gap options and see if re-signing Syndergaard is possible/worth it. Not trying to go into free agency and get a starter on a longer term deal unless they are top of the rotation guys. I don't see one this upcoming offseason. Only starter I really like is Robbie Ray that could be had at a decent price. Would rather they load up the bullpen even more with arms and let the starter situation be figured out with young guys.
 
Once the Mets open their books the offers will drop below $700 million lol

“can i still pitch to my friends when the team travels Dad?” Jeff Wilpon
 
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