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LiasAndersson said:
Velocity, finger length, biomechanics, release point, arm slot etc all play a factor. Again, if there's one org that might glean anything from those factors it's them.

You'd have to be a pitching connersoir and expert and go back and really look at gametape of Cole with Pit vs HOU and see if you can glean anything.
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This is something that Trevor Bauer is.
 
Go Away Staal said:
Numbers don't lie.
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They lie all the time. Some stats are unadjusted for era. Some players play in a weak conference for a decade so they do well in the conference playoffs. Players become less proficient at a skill so stats show the skill is weak, but it's actually the players who are weak. Sports is more complex than what stats show.
 
Deacon Blues said:
They lie all the time. Some stats are unadjusted for era. Some players play in a weak conference for a decade so they do well in the conference playoffs. Players become less proficient at a skill so stats show the skill is weak, but it's actually the players who are weak. Sports is more complex than what stats show.
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I was talking about spin rates.
 
A high spin rate is not always good and a low spin rate is not always bad. It depends on the pitch, the pitcher, the desired location, and the game situation. Also, the rising fastball is a myth. It doesn't actually rise.

Launch angle is a stupid term. Obviously, you want to hit line drives. Ted Williams knew that in 1939.
 
Who's the best #5 ever? Bench, Greenberg, Joe DiMaggio, Bagwell, and Brooks Robinson.
 
Machinehead said:
His exit velo didn't make a massive jump, so no, I don't see what you did there.
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Neither did Robbie Cano's and he just got popped.

If people are going to throw out accusations they need some proof. Innocent until proven guilty. Would we be accusing Sevy and co if that was them? No, we'd be saying Rothschild is a wizard.
 
Deacon Blues said:
Who's the best #5 ever? Bench, Greenberg, Joe DiMaggio, Bagwell, and Brooks Robinson.
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None of those. For me it's Albert Pujols with Greenberg close 2nd and DiMaggio close 3rd. They are more like 1A, 1B and 1C. George Brett would be #4. Bench probably #5.
 
darko said:
Look at Gleyber's power production, in my opinion he is juicing. See what I did there.
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Much different story when you’re 21 and not playing your home games in a pitchers park.

At that age, natural progression is expected.

When you’re in your mid 30’s, you aren’t supposed to get better.
 
darko said:
None of those. For me it's Albert Pujols with Greenberg close 2nd and DiMaggio close 3rd. They are more like 1A, 1B and 1C. George Brett would be #4. Bench probably #5.
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Nice catch, my knowledgeable friend. I obviously made a mistake by not mentioning him. I had his name in my mind when I went to research other names, but just forgot to post him. My bad.

I realize defense and steals are part of WAR, but I'm surprised that the great Joe Morgan is still slightly (.6) ahead of him in WAR.
 
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Coles average spin rate is up 156 RPM from last year. what an overexaggeration by machiney.

Also, Cole threw 81 4-seamers that were > his average spin rate of 2339 this year. Seems like he's just more consistent.

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RGY said:
Omg enough. I am all for bashing Shreve but give it a rest with Bird. He will be fine. He missed so much time to start the season that he has not found his groove.
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Ok, it's been three, but still.
 
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