OT: MLB Thread Part XX: Title incoming.

[Filthy Dangles]

In 2 years he'll want to trade Judge and Sanchez for prospects because Romine and Frazier can hold down their positions and they can get prospects.

Too true

 

[Ben Grimm]

Muncy, Nimmo, and Ramirez are 4th-6th in OPS+.

 

[Machinehead]

Yeah give me that two out hit, daddy.

 

[Machinehead]

 

[Filthy Dangles]

This lineup is trash and will never do anything in October

 

[darko]

This lineup is trash and will never do anything in October

They suck so much.

 

[Ben Grimm]

An ump in the Mets game called a guy safe, because he didn't know it was a force out! The call was fixed.

 

[LeetchisGod]

This lineup is trash and will never do anything in October

Remains to be seen. They'll be facing much better pitching than an over the hill Arrieta. This lineup was silenced by the Rays.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Arrietta is sporting a 3 and a half ERA.

How bout when they hit Paxton?

 

[darko]

Arrieta is still good.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Severino basically sat at 99-100 that entire inning.

Best pitcher in the AL other than Verlander on the sticky iky.

 

[LeetchisGod]

Arrieta is still good.

Not nearly what he was with the Cubs.

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

I wouldn't trade Severino for any player in baseball.

Age
Success
Stuff
Contract
Yankees dont need offense
Handles New York

Like I said. Severino is not being traded for anyone in baseball.

 

[darko]

Not nearly what he was with the Cubs.

Not peak Arrieta but still a very good pitcher.

 

[Ben Grimm]

Signing Morton for $14 mil for 2 years was brilliant.

The Dark Knight is pitching on the very end of the rubber tonight. How much will he get as a FA?

 

[darko]

Severino basically sat at 99-100 that entire inning.

Best pitcher in the AL other than Verlander on the sticky iky.

Cole is very much in that conversation.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Cole is very much in that conversation.

Also on dat sticky iky.

 

[darko]

Also on dat sticky iky.

Yeah i'll need more proof than one pitcher's opinion.

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

One thing Severino has over Verlander is age... Cole is at least 27. Severino is still only 24

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Yeah i'll need more proof than one pitcher's opinion.

Numbers don't lie.

 

[darko]

Numbers don't lie.

Charlie Morton's don't lie. He did however show flashes of how good he could be 4-5 years ago in Pittsburgh.

There is nothing wrong with Cole's numbers. Pitcher who just entered his prime is living up to his potential. Verlander's demise has been greatly exaggerated. Verlander is also sporting a ridiculous BABIP. His ERA will catch up to his xFIP.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Charlie Morton's don't lie. He did however show flashes of how good he could be 4-5 years ago in Pittsburgh.

There is nothing wrong with Cole's numbers. Pitcher who just entered his prime is living up to his potential. Verlander's demise has been greatly exaggerated. Verlander is also sporting a ridiculous BABIP. His ERA will catch up to his xFIP.

Not those numbers. The 2 of us were driving the Cole train this winter.

The spin rate shit is what I'm talking about. Every single one of those guys have seen a massive increase in those numbers since getting to Houston. So either they have the greatest pitching coach ever to step foot on this planet or they on dat sticky icky.

I'm going with option #2. Even if their pitching coach is great, not everyone is going to take to his instruction that well.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Kinda tin foil hat-ish to think Houston is somehow doctoring the ball with a foreign substance to increase grip strength to subsequently increase how fast they can spin a four seamer.

I'm not even sure the premise is valid and if it can be proven that getting more grip leads to more spin?

Spin rate is so complex but Astros are the pioneers of big data and analytics. So if there's one team that might know how to unlock it, it probably would be them.

Velocity, finger length, biomechanics, release point, arm slot etc all play a factor. Again, if there's one org that might glean anything from those factors it's them.

You'd have to be a pitching connersoir and expert and go back and really look at gametape of Cole with Pit vs HOU and see if you can glean anything.

200 isn't a huge difference but enough of one. Let's his fastball ride up in the zone a little bit longer.

 

[Bob Richards]

Wilmer Flores might literally be the most clutch hitter in Mets history.

I'm not making any kind of joke either. There is a real possibility.

 

[Walter t]

I appreciate the reminder.
However, the prop was not defeated, only requires modification.
Instead of draft picks, just say 'prospects acceptable to Yankees' or similarly acceptable wording.



Don't see why, and it was shocker to see the content removed.

Remember, the core of this is Severino for Trout.
That is a fair conversation to have.

Anyhoo, ob la di, ob la da...

Sorry don't mean to be too harsh it's just that there are so many moving pieces. If you could make a couple of Jrry DiPoto clones and put him in charge of the teams it could work.