OT: MLB Thread - Part XVI: Come On. Do Something.

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Still don't know how the Yankees scouted and found this guy. Major kudos to them.

Found? He was a very highly touted SS prospect. Him and I believe Ahmed/Owings were battling it out for playing time in Arizona. Was BA #80 prospect in the majors going into 2012. He never got consistent playing time there. The Yanks gave him a shot at a full-time SS gig. Never had more than 350 ABs a season in Arizona.
 
Yankees core = Judge, Sanchez, Severino, Betances, Didi, Frazier, and Torres (because he'll be apart of it).

anyone else is fair game in a deal to upgrade SP imo.
 
I'd deal both Betances and Didi before Montgomery.

Trading Sheffield for Gray would be dumb IMO. The injury risk is very real with him, **** mechanics+small stature= short shelf life.
 
I'd deal both Betances and Didi before Montgomery.

Trading Sheffield for Gray would be dumb IMO. The injury risk is very real with him, **** mechanics+small stature= short shelf life.

Ironic thing is, that's my (and others think the same) my opinion about Sheffield. His height (5"10) could hinder him at the next level. Although, his mechanics are on point and not ****.

I wouldn't trade either Betances, Didi or Montgomery.
 
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Wheeler to DL with stress reaction. Sounds like there was no fracture yet. If that fractures that's an automatic 6-8 month injury for a pitcher. It's generally 2-3 months for position players
 
Wheeler to DL with stress reaction. Sounds like there was no fracture yet. If that fractures that's an automatic 6-8 month injury for a pitcher. It's generally 2-3 months for position players

It's funny because the Mets will probably go into the winter with Syndergaard (coming off surgery), deGrom, Harvey (surgery), Matz (constant train wreck), Wheeler (never healthy or particularly good) and Lugo (mediocre, eventual TJ guy), and people will still talk about the depth in the rotation. Depth means **** when you can't count on it for health reasons or it's unproven, which was the point I tried to make for months leading up to the season.

The Mets need to overhaul the rotation. Syndergaard, deGrom are givens. Matz has talent. Lugo is fine as a 5. Who knows what you do with Wheeler and Harvey. I'm looking for two starting pitchers.
 
I'd deal both Betances and Didi before Montgomery.

Trading Sheffield for Gray would be dumb IMO. The injury risk is very real with him, **** mechanics+small stature= short shelf life.


Sheffield is 5'11. I worry about his longevity as well.
 
Dom Smith's power surge continues. We talk about how his power hasn't really shown this year at then he hits 7 HR in 20 games this month.
 
Sheffield is 5'11. I worry about his longevity as well.

who may never make it to the majors, let alone in the majors because of it. He also seems to walk quite a few people which wont bode well in the majors. I would trade him for Gray and I really like Sheffield.
 
Dom Smith's power surge continues. We talk about how his power hasn't really shown this year at then he hits 7 HR in 20 games this month.


Could be real. Could be just a hot streak. Guess we'll find very soon.

Smith just turned 22, is raking in AAA yet some chose to write him off and compared him to James Loney.
 
I don't see Smith hitting for enough power in the majors to justify where he plays on the field.

His walk rate is horrendous.

Sheffield is 5'11. I worry about his longevity as well.

Hes pretty thick though and while he isn't great mechanically either, hes better than Gray in that regard who is a small step up from Wheeler (who is a train wreck.)

I wouldn't be in a rush to move a lefty starter who throws 93-95. Yeah he has some issues with command, but hes also in AA at 21.

I wouldn't consider him untouchable, but again I want someone back who is more of a sure thing than Gray (even if said pitcher has a bit of a lower ceiling.) Great stuff means nothing if you aren't healthy enough to pitch, thats really my issue with Gray.
 
I don't see Smith hitting for enough power in the majors to justify where he plays on the field.

His walk rate is horrendous.

His walk rate is low, as it has always been, but his K rate is also very good. He puts a lot of balls into play.

You're right that the power will be the biggest factor as to whether he's just a replacement-level guy or someone who is very good.
 
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I wouldn't exactly call Smith's walk rate horrendous. The major league average is around 8% which is typically where Smith has been. He's never really shown power until this year which is a concern but this year is also his first year in AAA in a huge hitters league. He still hits too many ground balls though.
 
Smith hit 14 home runs last season in Eastern League which favours pitching. That's not a bad return at all.
 
I wouldn't exactly call Smith's walk rate horrendous. The major league average is around 8% which is typically where Smith has been. He's never really shown power until this year which is a concern but this year is also his first year in AAA in a huge hitters league. He still hits too many ground balls though.

I thought I saw him at slightly above 5% (walk wise) when hes actually above 7 this year, horrendous was way too strong.
 
I thought I saw him at slightly above 5% (walk wise) when hes actually above 7 this year, horrendous was way too strong.

It's certainly not good but it's at least respectable enough that if he gets a bit more selective he should be able to improve it. He seems to have pretty good bat control since he doesn't strike out much so he might be able to do that. If he doesn't he's basically the good version of Pablo Sandoval who walked 7-8% of the time, struck out around 14%, and just put a lot of balls in play with a little power and put up a good average that way. Difference is still as said that Smith hits way more ground balls.
 
People think Las Vegas is some power hitters bandbox, I saw an article not too long ago that explained why it isn't. Its a hitters park, but not for power, mostly for average. The outfield there completely discourages power as there's a really big wall nearly around the whole outfield, and CF is 433.

Smith's problem is how his game profiles at the position he will play. He's in a vacuum a good hitter and a good fielder, but he doesn't have a typical hitting profile for a 1B, and his defensive profile limits him to 1B.
 
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