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OT: MLB Thread - Part XVI: Come On. Do Something.

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Doesn't seem like much for Bruce but at the same time will 2b Herrera be anything? Just play Smith now and keep moving guys out

If the yanks wanted Bruce they likely take Granderson
 
Vitto79 said:
Doesn't seem like much for Bruce but at the same time will 2b Herrera be anything? Just play Smith now and keep moving guys out

If the yanks wanted Bruce they likely take Granderson
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Herrera isn't a Met anymore.
 
Pavel Buchnevich said:
MLB forced McCourt to sell the Dodgers, Wilpons didn't have to sell because they were friends with Selig.

Lack of accountability by MLB to the fans.
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Didn't Selig kinda let the Wilpons "get back on their feet" sort of thing? I can't remember if it was a loan but I remember them crying the blues about money and it looks like they're right back in the same situation. Mets fans need to rally and try and get rid of these guys, they're only a roadblock to success.
 
Problem with Bruce and his value is that he is a one dimensional player--power--and most teams have power in spades this year with the League on pace to shatter HR records. He's a DH that does what most other DHs already do.

As far as not keeping him to qualify him, it could be that the Mets are being cheap, but it also could be that they really didn't want him back and didn't want to risk him accepting the QO. If they have plans for adding another OF for next year and Smith at 1B, then it's a somewhat legitimate concern.

Reports leading up to the deadline indicated the Mets were willing to pick up money to get better prospects. They didn't. That could mean that the reports were wrong or that the prospects being offered weren't worth absorbing money.

I'm always super critical of the Wilpons, but there are legitimate explanations for these things that don't involve the Wilpons being cheap or broke. The off-season will really tell us that.
 
It's hard to imagine the Wilpons still have money issues at this point. It's been years since the whole Madoff thing
 
Nice to see the offense show up last night. Time for Sonny Gray to get the Yanks a series win before the Boston series.
 
Why are the Mets cheap for refusing to eat $5 million while the Yankees aren't cheap for refusing to trade without the Mets eating $5 million?
 
SingnBluesOnBroadway said:
What does Herrera have to do with what the Mets got for Bruce?
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It probably was used as leverage in the discussions with Alderson by other GMs. "You gave up a guy who has already been injured twice and was hitting 240 in AAA this year so what do you really expect back?"
 
I mean the Mets had no problem paying Neil Walker over $17M this year. Even if he was healthy he's not worth that. I'm not going to argue that the Wilpons are in great financial shape, but the idea that they're broke or pinching pennies, I don't think I buy it.
 
Rangerfan4life90 said:
That being said, I'm glad the Yankees didn't p i s s away 2 prospects for Bruce. Trading for Jaime Garcia was bad enough...
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Can someone explain to me why trading for Garcia was bad? Weren't they likely going to lose Littell in the Rule 5 draft anyway? There were probably too many players that they would prioritize protecting over Littell (guys like Acevedo, Abreu, McKinney, Estrada).
 
Mets are a joke. Pretty disgusted with this franchise after last night's trade

When you trade a guy. No, give s guy away for a 30th round pick to save 4 mill, it really doesn't inspire confidence about any moves being made in the future to help the team if spending money is involved.
 
BMOK33 said:
It probably was used as leverage in the discussions with Alderson by other GMs. "You gave up a guy who has already been injured twice and was hitting 240 in AAA this year so what do you really expect back?"
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But that is not at all how a player's value is determined. In fact, the price they paid to get him is completely irrelevant.

Would teams base Ryan McDonagh's value on Scott Gomez? Would teams based Lundqvist's value off a 7th round pick?
 
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So our outfield next year will be

Cesp Lagares Conforto

Lets hope Juan still flashes the Gold glove because he will only hit .260
 
Hire Sather said:
Mets are a joke. Pretty disgusted with this franchise after last night's trade

When you trade a guy. No, give s guy away for a 30th round pick to save 4 mill, it really doesn't inspire confidence about any moves being made in the future to help the team if spending money is involved.
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What would be the point of keeping him and not getting anything back?

As I mentioned earlier, if they don't want him for next year (a very real possibility) then a QO would have been too risky. And then he'd walk for nothing.

For the past few weeks everyone was reporting there was little interest in him, which made sense. I don't think there was some great deal to be made. Move him now, save some cash and open up a roster spot.

Adios, Jay. Not sure what better options existed if he wasn't in the plans for next year.
 
nyr2k2 said:
What would be the point of keeping him and not getting anything back?

As I mentioned earlier, if they don't want him for next year (a very real possibility) then a QO would have been too risky. And then he'd walk for nothing.

For the past few weeks everyone was reporting there was little interest in him, which made sense. I don't think there was some great deal to be made. Move him now, save some cash and open up a roster spot.

Adios, Jay. Not sure what better options existed if he wasn't in the plans for next year.
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I think it's the 4M. The Yankees reportedly offered more but would pay less. So did the Mets take worse package because of money? It's a bad optic.
 
Lundsanity30 said:
Because the Yankees reportedly offered more and better prospects
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How does this answer my question? It's a question of money that the Mets and Yanks didn't want to pay but apparently it's only the Mets who are branded cheap when there's a disagreement. :shakehead
 
Without knowing the actual deal, it still doesn't bother me. Was it two guys similar to what they got? If so, it comes down to one guy plus $4M or two guys and something other than $4M. The end result is likely inconsequential. I seriously doubt the Yankees were offering anyone good.

As for the optics, I don't care. The optics of the Mets' operations have looked like garbage forever, so what does it really matter.
 
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