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OT: MLB Thread - Part XVI: Come On. Do Something.

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Bruce was never going to fetch a big return anyways. Been telling you guys that for months.
 
Question is would Cleveland have any interest whatsoever in re signing him? Or would they need an OFer? My main concern in trading him is he liked where he goes and decides he wants to stay there, but if they have no use for him beyond this year it isn't an issue
 
BMOK33 said:
Question is would Cleveland have any interest whatsoever in re signing him? Or would they need an OFer? My main concern in trading him is he liked where he goes and decides he wants to stay there, but if they have no use for him beyond this year it isn't an issue
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Chance of Bruce coming back to Cleveland is probably 1%.
 
darko said:
Bruce was never going to fetch a big return anyways. Been telling you guys that for months.
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Mets chose to dump Bruce's full salary instead of NYY offer, which I hear involved two prospects that other teams asked about at deadline.
 
The most stupid thing a GM can think of when deciding on a trade. What will the media/fans think. Who cares, get the best return you can get, even if that players helps the team you're trading him to win a world series. This thinking is so freaking ********.
 
The Yankees were not only one of those teams, they had agreed to send the two prospects requested by the Mets in exchange for the Mets eating a piece of the roughly $5 million Bruce was owed the rest of the season.
 
NYRFAN218 said:
Glad to see the Mets are operating like a major market franchise again. Passed up a package of multiple prospects from the Yankees because they wouldn't pay any part of Bruce's contract. What a joke. Joke team, joke franchise, joke ownership, joke everything.
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They did the same thing for the Reed trade. Boston paying his full salary, Mets paying none.
 
Deadline felt more like improving the Wilpons than the Mets.
 
The Mets turned down 3 prospects now that are better than the ones they received because they were too cheap to pay a portion of the salary. Not QOing Bruce to receive a comp pick but instead getting a 30th rounder from last year is a joke. They had a great year in 2015, and a nice 2nd half last year. Other than that they have been a joke all decade. Pathetic. So frustrating as a fan.
 
Bruce had no value it's not like they would have been getting particularly good prospects from the Yankees anyway
 
SA16 said:
Bruce had no value it's not like they would have been getting particularly good prospects from the Yankees anyway
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And as big of a jerk as Francessa is I believe him fully that Bruce is a Met next year barring someone offering him 5-6 years. This move may have been to temporarily lower salary and avoid having to offer the QO to Bruce because he'd probably take it and his 3 year deal will most definitely be less than 18 a season so the Wilpons may have saved 7 million over the next 14 months and still get Bruce back for 2018, 19, and 20. I know someone will say well then why not just keep him and not offer him the QO? Well two reasons. You don't save the 5 million this year and you potentially create an awkward situation with Bruce and his agent. Not extending the QO could most certainly rub them the wrong way. Now that issue never arises
 
BMOK33 said:
And as big of a jerk as Francessa is I believe him fully that Bruce is a Met next year barring someone offering him 5-6 years. This move may have been to temporarily lower salary and avoid having to offer the QO to Bruce because he'd probably take it and his 3 year deal will most definitely be less than 18 a season so the Wilpons may have saved 7 million over the next 14 months and still get Bruce back for 2018, 19, and 20. I know someone will say well then why not just keep him and not offer him the QO? Well two reasons. You don't save the 5 million this year and you potentially create an awkward situation with Bruce and his agent. Not extending the QO could most certainly rub them the wrong way. Now that issue never arises
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It also gives Bruce a chance to play out the year on a contender.
 
MLB forced McCourt to sell the Dodgers, Wilpons didn't have to sell because they were friends with Selig.

Lack of accountability by MLB to the fans.
 
darko said:
Did Wilpons file for bankruptcy? McCourt did.
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Whether they did or not, they don't spend on the team they own.

The Mets had the 12th highest payroll to open the season. With all the money coming off the books following this season, it might not be top 20 next season. There is no good reason the Mets should not be top 5 every season.

How can you run a NY based team in a non-salary cap league with a mid market team budget? Is that fair to the fans that the owners care more about finances than winning? I don't think it is.
 
Lundsanity30 said:
The most stupid thing a GM can think of when deciding on a trade. What will the media/fans think. Who cares, get the best return you can get, even if that players helps the team you're trading him to win a world series. This thinking is so freaking ********.
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Most casual Mets fans care about the Yankees success IMO. It would be a slap in the face to them if their ex-player possibly helps them to a title.

Trading them elsewhere provides zero scrutiny so why not.
 
Pavel Buchnevich said:
Whether they did or not, they don't spend on the team they own.

The Mets had the 12th highest payroll to open the season. With all the money coming off the books following this season, it might not be top 20 next season. There is no good reason the Mets should not be top 5 every season.

How can you run a NY based team in a non-salary cap league with a mid market team budget? Is that fair to the fans that the owners care more about finances than winning? I don't think it is.
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Point I'm making is that MLB won't step in unless Wilpons file for bankruptcy. Simple as that.
 
DrRecchi said:
Most casual Mets fans care about the Yankees success IMO. It would be a slap in the face to them if their ex-player possibly helps them to a title.

Trading them elsewhere provides zero scrutiny so why not.
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It's a stupid way of looking at it IMO.
 
DrRecchi said:
Most casual Mets fans care about the Yankees success IMO. It would be a slap in the face to them if their ex-player possibly helps them to a title.

Trading them elsewhere provides zero scrutiny so why not.
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It doesn't matter, they aren't running the team. Mets should do what is best for them, not some casual fans who in the grand scheme of things, don't matter.

That being said, I'm glad the Yankees didn't p i s s away 2 prospects for Bruce. Trading for Jaime Garcia was bad enough...
 
darko said:
It's a stupid way of looking at it IMO.
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It is, but it ultimately plays a big role for some teams. I wouldn't want the Yankees to ever trade with Boston to help them on a playoff run. Was against sending them Beltran last year.
 
Rangerfan4life90 said:
It doesn't matter, they aren't running the team. Mets should do what is best for them, not some casual fans who in the grand scheme of things, don't matter.

That being said, I'm glad the Yankees didn't p i s s away 2 prospects for Bruce. Trading for Jaime Garcia was bad enough...
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They aren't running the team, but many of them are paying customers at the end of the day. Want to keep good relations with them.
 
DrRecchi said:
It is, but it ultimately plays a big role for some teams. I wouldn't want the Yankees to ever trade with Boston to help them on a playoff run. Was against sending them Beltran last year.
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Depends what they give us and they'd need to seriously overpay. I can understand Mets playing hardball with Nats. I don't agree with it but do understand it however not the Yankees who play in another league.
 
darko said:
Depends what they give us and they'd need to seriously overpay. I can understand Mets playing hardball with Nats. I don't agree with it but do understand it however not the Yankees who play in another league.
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You and I both. But there are Mets fans who consider the Yankees their #1 rivals.
 
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